Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Book 7) (Hardcover)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Book 7) (Hardcover)
The book is up on amazon already for pre-order! Go reserve your copy now and save the headache of standing in line at midnight.
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Book 7) (Hardcover)
The book is up on amazon already for pre-order! Go reserve your copy now and save the headache of standing in line at midnight.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 am
First post! =D
February 2nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm
http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/02/news/companies/harrypotter/index.htm?cnn=yes
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is already a best seller … 6 months before it hits the shelves!
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Jordan
February 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pm
i know… thats awesome… BUT I WILL NOT TAKE ANYTHING CNN SAYS AS THE TRUTH BECAUSE THEY ARE DISTORTED, BRAINWASHING IDIOTS, ok, i’m better now…
and lette owl:
Groundhogs day is soo the best!
how rude
February 2nd, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Lol, I never really got the whole point in Groundhogs day, so I kinda stopped remembering it..
February 3rd, 2007 at 11:09 am
all right now it isn’t that much of evidence i mean Dumbledore could have been talking about something else but i’m pretty sure he was talking about Snape killing him. all right here it is…
page 405 in the chapter Elf Tales in Half-Blood Prince.
Hagrid is talking to Harry.
“I dunno, Harry, I shouln’ta heard it at all! I – well, I was comin’ outta the forest the other evenin’ an’ I overheard ‘em talking- well, arguin’. Didn’t like ter draw attention to meself so I sorta skulked an’ an tried not ter listen, but it was a- well, a heated discussion an’ it wasn’ easy ter block it out”
“Well?” Harry urged him, as Hagrid shuffled his enormous feet uneasily.
“Well – I jus’ heard Snape sayin’ Dumbledore took too much fer granted an’ maybe he -Snape – didn’ wan’ ter do it anymore-”
“Do what?”
“I dunno, Harry, it sounded like Snape was feelin’ a bit overworked, tha’s all- anyway, Dumbledore told him flat out he’d agreed ter do it an’ that was all there was to it. Pretty firm with him…”
now the conversation carries on but that’s the most important part. Snape did not want to do something anymore but Dumbledore told Snape that Dumbledore had already agreed to do whatever it was Snape needed to do. What else could it be?
February 3rd, 2007 at 11:46 am
yeah i saw that too… wut do u guys think will happen with wormtail? i was just rereading the fourth book(again) and i think wormtail is just there because he is scared… and he owes his life to harry, so that will be interesting…
letteowl: you should remember groundhog’s day! its my b-day! gosh, some ppl
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:18 pm
i was just wondering, why did it matter that the weasleys were poor? why couldn’t they just get food, books, and robes by conjuring them?
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 pm
i always thought of that too. happy belated birthday man
February 4th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
got a great question why did Dumbldore have the invisabilty cloak of James(or HArry’s) when Harry got it the note said your father left this with me before i died. whats so special about this that Voldemort must not have the invisabilty cloak
February 4th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
We’ll find out why Dumbledore had the cloak when he could make himself invisible anyway. You can only conjure different things depending on the skill of your magic (I know this because Dumbledore conjured a comfy chintz chair, though McGonnagal can only conjure normal, hard oak chairs) but some things are not possible to conjure at all, otherwise there would be no need for shops (squibs could go to muggle shops, muggleborns would probably get things conjured by teachers at their school when they find out they are wizards/witches) and the conversation Hagrid overheard might be another red herring. Also, what IS groundhogs day? I’m British =p
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Jordan
February 4th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
well what if the cloak is a horcrux of James comminting murder could be done protection or by accident then of course on puprsoe but with a horcrux we know a murder has to occur now i believe James probaly killed someone out defense so it would be kinda cool to havea good horcrux if you know what i mean
February 4th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
or if you disagree with my thoery about James haveing a horcrux we can throw Gordic Gryfindor in it as well wither one i like to hear what you guys think of both
February 5th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Id think Godric would make a horcrux before James would..I mean, they are evil after all.
What if the reason Dumbledore conjurs comfy chairs and McGonnagal hard ones is not because of their diffrent level of skills, but because of their personalities? I mean, McGonnagal is more of a hard-back straight lady where as Dumbledore is more cushy and soft.
Groundhogs day is when everyone sits around and watches a groundhog to see if, when he comes out of his hole, he sees his shadow and gets scared or he doesnt see it and comes all the way out of his hole. Its how we figure out how much longer winter will last..kinda odd..
And, Happy late Birthday, My Name!
February 5th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
it is kinda odd… its realy pointless… the superbowl is more of a recognized holiday and its only a game (and not a holiday at all…)
i think that maybe its just what the note said: something of value (they are really rare, according to ron, i think) that was given to dumbly to give to harry when they found out they were going to die… maybe thats just my lack of creativity and not reason…
February 5th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
i was talking about the cloak in my last post…
February 5th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
yea My Name the note said from Dumbledore this was gove to me by your father before he died. there must be a reason it was given to him he must of been trying to keep it away from Voldemort
February 6th, 2007 at 5:07 am
What if the reason Dumbledore conjurs comfy chairs and McGonnagal hard ones is not because of their diffrent level of skills, but because of their personalities? I mean, McGonnagal is more of a hard-back straight lady where as Dumbledore is more cushy and soft.
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Sorry, but I haughed at the Dumbledore comment. He isn’t really soft, he’s just trusting. I do like the idea though, it’s very creative!
James DIDN’T have a horcrux. J.K Rowling said that both Lily and James got killed when Voldemort did the Avada Kedavra on them. You can’t die if you have a Horcrux :p It may be a family heirloom, and bind Harry to James’ family, which may have protected him as Lily giving her lif had. I really don’t know, but meh!
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Jordan
February 6th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
i agree jordan
February 7th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
lol, I guess soft wasnt the best word…I ment easy going..but, I trying to find a good word for that that would describe a chair too. Yeah
February 8th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
*I was trying
February 8th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
I know a good word, well phrase. Feels good on your arse. Oh, wait, maybe that doesn’t apply to Dumbledore =p
I am currently re-reading the first book, and I am actuall enjoying it this time, though I am whizzing through it and it is written pretty simplistically
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Jordan
February 8th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
really? one of my teachers is keeping a count down til the 7th book comes out…its sumthing like 163 days left
February 8th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
I’ve been listening to the 1st book on tape at night before I fall asleep, and it makes me mad cuz I keep falling asleep at the same part..
Oh, and they have a pretty cool countdown clock on leakynews.com
February 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Letter owl
i do tha somtimes hehe… its gurd for info and ideas for book 7 . Can’t wait now! xD
February 9th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
i always listen to the books on CD or tape… i have only read sections of each of the books…
February 9th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
i like reading them a lot more because it’s much easier to go back and try and understand something. reading also enables your imagination better
February 10th, 2007 at 6:09 am
Iynah ok…. well it doesn’t matter reli anyone.
Go on mugglent they got new pictures of the minestry of magic!
Its awsome!
Any one got any more theorys?
[xxxx]
February 10th, 2007 at 9:14 am
Well, there’s a new quiz on the Leaky Cauldron!
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#quiz:2
I got 86/100, lets see how you guys do! I never use the audio books, though I have them on my computer. I always read the books, much better. The voices annoy me on the audio books. Anyway, just a though. WOuldn’t the narrator of the audio book know what’s going to happen? I NEED his job!
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Jordan
February 10th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
ok, just a thought and changin the subject but about this 2 dies thiny, i recon that malfoy wil get the elbo
by voldi or followers of him and snape to because of the unbreakable vow. i woz re-readin it again and it says that snape promisis to ALWAIS protect mayfoy
if malfoy gets kiled thn snape will to wont he.
As for hary bein a horcruux thin,
i think that it is a good posibility but back to reality how many books does the bad guy win and the
good guy die? neva. also, i think that harry will see that nhe could be a horcrux but actually it is his scar that is a horcruux and he will just be ready to let voldimor kil him but then at last just as voldimort dus
the spll he will to right were the soul of voldimort is
and voldimort will have just dun the spell missin harrys
heart but gettin the scar so voldemort falls down and
then dies but harry will wonder why his scar isnt hurtin him. then he realises his scar is no longer there. MEANIN that voldimort himself has destryd his
own horcruux and harry has got the last one in voldimort. so he has died and harry wins.
Harry could have got alot of this useful information by dobby or kreacher. i also think that he
it could end with harry has one last thought about how his life will now b without his scar.
i also think that somhow harry will get in touch with serious by mayb the mirror he gave him.
i hope that he and ginny get back togegher and
ron and hermione.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
comments plz as im a bit stuc
February 10th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
well one thing i dint think harry is a horcrux b/c one i think Voldemort would know 2 i dont think you can make a horcrux by mistake
but its an intresting theory
February 10th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
I disagree. Besides, destroying all of Voldemorts horcruxes would not kill Voldemort instantly. It would simply make him mortal again. And what you said about Voldemort winning and Harry dying couldn’t happen smply because it doesn’t happen in books. WRONG. We’re dealing with J.K. Rowling here, a force beyond all evil. She already killed Sirius and Dumbledore. She’s a ruthless killing machine, and will not stop killing simply because people don’t want the main character to die. And about the last bit, if Ron and Hermione hook up I may never re-read a Harry Potter book again. I hope Ron dies, personally.
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Jordan
February 10th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
ok at first i must admit i thought that harry and hermione would get together and ron and harry would break out and somehow ron goes out but then i got to thinkin that if ron could get over harry and ginny then
there wouldnt be much of a story.
also goin over my main points i think that perhaps my therori woz 50/50. you see, as there is a few ancient
stuff at hogwarts maye the only reason voldi wanted the
defence against the dark arts job woz to find out more
and chose his horcruux hidins more sencibly.
and i do think that harry doesnt die in the end because
jk already hinted that mayb he cld go but i stil think that the only people goin are voldi,malfoy,snape cs it jus mke to much snce wot do u think about my therori
onn malfoy and snape people?
February 11th, 2007 at 11:14 am
ok, i have another therori on the horcrux thiny,
bac at the blacks house it says that they cant get sirius’ mothers paintin off the wall.
maybe as it has been around for sooooooooooooooooo
long and his family supported voldimrts work.
dont you think thatg maybe he could be quite trustworthy of the blacks? think about it, he accepted
sirius’ brother as a follower. and maybe the l;ocket wasnt the only horcrux sirius’ brother new about ne comments?
February 11th, 2007 at 11:16 am
people was the philophisrs stne a horcrux? im a bit stuc
on that one what exacly woz it then?
February 11th, 2007 at 11:20 am
ok my guesses of the horcruxes are:
. nigini
. slytherins ring
. hufflepuffs cup
. the locket
. that thin from ravenclau
. the mirror
. the philophisrs stne? or sirius’ mother portraite.
. NOT HARRY
coments plz ppl
February 11th, 2007 at 11:47 am
when you say mirror what do you mean cause weve heard of 2 mirrors in HP and if you think its the philophiers stone how do you think he made it a horcrux b/c he nvr touched he only say it in a mirror and same q for the portraite
February 11th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
wow… i havent been on for a few days and there are a lot of posts… i got a 94/100 on the quiz Jordan- i win!
cherise: wut do u mean by that thing from ravenclaw? just anything from ravenclaw or do u know sumthing that is actually from ravenclaw?
February 11th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
wasnt the sorcers stone destroyed?
Poor Ron, so many people dont like him…I want him to get with Hermione, I think it would be sweet, and they already argue like a married couple anyways..
February 12th, 2007 at 11:54 am
i got mixed up i mnt insted:
.nigini
.mrs.blacs portraite
.hufflefufs cup
.sliverins locket
.mirror from hp1
.sliverins ring
. somethin from ravenclua.
. and same not harry.
February 12th, 2007 at 11:56 am
could the sortin hat b a horcruux? ju8st a thought ppll
February 12th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
i dont really think that the portrait of sirius’s mom is a horcrux. think about it, supposing RAB is regulus, voldy would have already been betrayed by one black, so why would he trust another? as we have heard, he does not easily forgive and forget.
i thought about the sorting hat too…and the idea was shot down. i never thought it was a horcrux, but i thought it was wierd that dumbly sed there was only one artifact from gryfindor (the sword) and the hat sed it was from him too.
wow i know this is kinda pathetic, but this is like the longest post i’ve ever written…
February 12th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
for the mirror wouldnt Voldemort need to be at form ie human to make a horcrux and if not how would he do it(i know i sound kinda retarded)
February 13th, 2007 at 11:22 am
He could have transferred some of his own power to Quirrel, and then made a horcrux whilst possessing him. However, I don’t believe that it is a horcrux. I do have a theory on it, though!
What if one of the reasons that it was moved into “a new home”, as Dumbledore said, was not just to keep the stone safe, but because he knew that it may be a horcrux, but didn’t quite know how to destroy horcruxes at that point. Now that he has figured it out, presuming that it is a horcrux, it will have been destroyed.
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Jordan
February 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
if thats true then why didnt Dumbledore say hey harry i destroyed the mirror YAY!!!
February 13th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
That would have been the best thing in the world if he said exactly that…Or, if he said “YAY” at all..I’d smile..
February 16th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
what do you think of the trpohepy being a horcrux in CoS
February 16th, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Its not really that well protected tho, is it?
February 16th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
well we know Voldemort loves trophies or somehting valubale and i think there is a horcrux in Hogworts
February 17th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
I think it’d make sence for him to have put one in Hogwarts, but I think the trophy room is alittle to flashy. I mean, hundreds of kids pass through those halls ever year, what if one just gets pissed cuz he got detention and had to clean trophies, so he decided to defile some of them? That, and I think Dumbledore would have thought to check it..
February 18th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
is it me or do you guys think weve seen the last horcrux i hope you all know what i mean
February 19th, 2007 at 7:51 am
You mean the last two :p
I think one of them may be new, and one may be old. We could have already seen something of Ravenclaw’s without Harry actually seeing the engraving. However, I believe that if something of Gryffindor’s does actually exist, we havn’t seen it yet. The sword is far too obvious.
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Jordan
February 19th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Well the horcruxes are Syltherien’s locket,Riddles Diary,Marvolo’s ring,The balisik,Huffelpuff’s cup,and somthing of Ravenclaw’s and Gryffindr’s tha is what the 6th book said!
February 20th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
Ok we know that the diary,ring,cup,snake,and locket are horcruxes,but what could the last one be.(I know that Dumbledore said that it would probely be something of Ravenclaws or Griffindors),but what if its not? What if the baskilisk from the second book is a horcrux?I mean it fits in doesnt it?It was Slytherins monster.
February 21st, 2007 at 2:15 am
He already has one snake horcrux tho, I think that to have another, no mater how cool the other was, would not really appeal to him.
February 21st, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Remember, it’s not proven that the snake or the cup were actually Horcruxes. Possibly one of J.K’s red herrings.
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Jordan
February 22nd, 2007 at 12:36 pm
i dont think the basilisk was a horcrux cause of what dumbly said about the subject of living horcruxes: that is was unwise to entrust a peice of ur soul in a creature that can think for itself. he also said that when voldy used nagini to kill a muggle, it might have occurred to him then to use the snake as a horcrux. by that time, the basilisk was long gone… but that could have just been speculation…
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pm
I am positive that R.A.B. is Regulus. He was a death eater, he may have stumbled across the horcrux information. I am pretty sure he’s dead though. Not only do the clues point to him, but in OOTP, while they were cleaning the house of black, they threw away ” a heavy locket that none of them could open .” I think that was the horcrux. I’m not sure, but it makes sense, and now they’ll have a hard time finding the horcrux because its probably in a dump somewhere.
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:19 pm
I also don’t think the basilisk is a horcrux. It would have been much too difficult to visit if Voldemort ever needed to move or visit it. Plus, in HBP, Dumbledore expressed confidence that Voldemort was never able to search the school for artifacts. He may have put it there while at school, but that seems like a bit of a stretch to me. I was thinking earlier. Pugman, you are probably right, I feel like we may have seen the last horcrux before. I think it’s probably something small and easy to overlook. Maybe it was his award for special services to the school in the trophy room in hogwarts
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pm
I dont thik harry is a horcrux. if he was, why would voldemort keep trying to kill him? Dumbledore said one of the properties for a good horcrux was that it keeps the ortion of the soul concealed and safe. Why would voldemort try to destroy a piece of his soul, in other words, one of the things that was helping him remain immortal? Plus, then, why would harry also be pitted against Voldemort? Wouldn’t he feel a bit of empathy for a person if he had a piece of that person inside him?
February 22nd, 2007 at 3:29 pm
*think
*portion
Comments plz
February 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pm
i’m not sure if we have seen the horcrux… i mean, the horcruxes are peices of voldy’s soul, do u think he would just leave them lying around? there would be all sorts of magical protection around them like the fake locket place.
February 23rd, 2007 at 4:35 pm
all i know is that i can’t wait for the book
February 24th, 2007 at 10:11 am
same
February 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
me too! xD
5th film….. 7th (final) book…. 2007 is gonna rok!
xx
any mpore therories?
February 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Andrea-
if u think abt it … Voldi could not know! When he tried to kill him he didnt mean to half kill HIMSELF! mabey he hasnt realiesd that! I think Harry could be so hed have to kill himself so that way J.K can make sure non one can carry on! hum … maybe….
wa do you lot think ….
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February 24th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Confirmed Information
On this page you can find several points of information we know about Book 7. Each of these points have been confirmed by an official JK Rowling source.
Character Information
We will find out something “incredibly important” about Lily Potter
We will find out who R.A.B. is
We will discover more about Dumbledore’s past
We will discover where Snape’s loyalties lie.
Something will be revealed about Petunia Dursley, although it will not be that she is a Squib
Viktor Krum will return (World Book Day, 2004 interview)
We will see a reappearance of Dolores Umbridge – “It’s too much fun to torture her not to have another little bit more before I finish.” (MuggleNet/Leaky Interview)
JKR has said, “There is a character who does manage, in desperate circumstances, to do magic quite late in life, but that is very rare…”
Plot Information
Harry will face Voldemort for the final time
Harry will be attempting to find and destroy Voldemort’s remaining Horcruxes
Harry will return to the Dursleys’ during the school vacation, but the magical protection Dumbledore arranged will expire on his 17th birthday when he comes of age
Harry will visit Godric’s Hollow
There will be a reappearance of the two-way mirror
We will see the wedding of Fleur and Bill Weasley
The fact that Harry “has his mother’s eyes” will prove to be an important plot point
At least one character will die
Other
The last word is expected to be “scar,” but may change
We will finally learn the full reason why some people become ghosts when they die and others don’t
The final chapter, which has already been written, will detail what happens to the characters that survive
There will be no more Quidditch matches
February 25th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
^^^^ Oh, look, there goes Jesus, riding past on a dinosaur :p
February 26th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
1) I have looked through alot of forums and websites over the past year on harry potter and things about the new book 7. So far i havent seen any mention about in book 5 at the end when dumbledore is explaining the profecy and it says.
“And so, since his return to his body, and particularly since your extraordinary escape from him last year, he has been determined to hear that profecy in its entirety. this is the weapon he has been seeking so assidiously since his return; the kniwledge of how to destroy you.
The sun had risen fully now. Dumbledore’s office was bathed in it. The glass case of in whish the sword of Godric Gryffindor resided gleamed white and opaque,…”
JK is excellent at forshadowing there are many clues throughout the books of up coming events and outcome.
I’d like to hear everyone elses thoughts and ideas
February 26th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
2) Many people have seen foreshadowing of the books to another and they are trying to compare the 2nd to the 7th and it does kind of make sense.
Ginny gets put under the Imperius curse and is captured by lord voldemort. Harry and Ron rush to her aid. Hermione had been previously killed by death eaters or voldemort himself. They arrive at one of the horcrux locations and ron duels with a death eater as harry goes on alone. Harry finds ginny unconscious and voldemort waiting for him. Harry fights nagini and kills the snake but is badly injured. Now one of two things happen Snape shows up and helps harry in the battle to kill voldemort and they in someway destroy him. Or Pettigrew comes to the seen. Harry and voldemort both fire killing curses at each other and and pettigrew takes voldemorts for harry and harrys curse goes on to kill voldemort.
comment on this idea
February 26th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
3) what would you say if i told you dumbledores watch with the wierd planets and things from book one was a time turner? and that he used it to go into the future to talk to harry after he was already dead.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
4) I think the real reason for the gleam in dumbledores eye when voldemort used harrys blood was because maybe it will either help him in some way on his quest for the horcuxes or if harry is killed voldemort would then be killed in turn reaction with the blood connection.
February 26th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
5) What would you say if i told you the R.A.B. was either sirius brother accompanied by kreacher and that kreacher drank the potion and thats why hes is so fucked up or that R.A.B. is actually Rubeus Hagrid, Albus Dumbledore, and Siruis Black. Rubeus refers to red, Albus directly refers to white and black refers to black.
This is just and idea the first one i believe makes more sense but then again so does the second one dumbledore sed “one alone could not do it” and i think if you reread the cave chapter carefully you’ll find that there is some evidence that dumbledore had been there before.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
6) Why did Florean and Olivander disappear? I believe the were both captured by voldemort. Florean i think was used for his knowledge of wizard history and Olivander for his knowledge of wands. Florean would if anyone where and who the descendants of ravenclaw are. Olivander knew every wand he ever sold and would know a her wand if he saw . but even if he didnt sell it he would know what its made of he had it in his hand an dflorean might know whether its hers or not. Voldemort wants ravenclaws wand for his horcruxes thats why i think they disappeared.
February 26th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
&) How did Voldemort get his wand back if he and the potters were the only ones in godrics hollow that night?
February 26th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
7) ok guys i rele didnt understand the profecy at first but when you actually think about it it says harry is a horcrux. Neither can live while the other suvives. i take it that it means live as in mortal life. If harry is a horcrux than voldemort is immortal as long as harry is alive no exceptions. And therefore voldemort cannot live while harry survives.
and i like the idea of the award for special services to the school being a horcrux but i think that thats just a little far fetched.
February 26th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Horcrux list
1-slytherins locket
2-slytherins ring
3-hufflepuffs cup
4-Riddles Diary
5-Ravenclaws Wand
6-Harry PotteR
There is a pretty good chance that when voldemort discovered the diary was destroyed that he decided to make a replacement but who the fuck knows
February 27th, 2007 at 12:41 am
Okay, firstly hun, You didn’t need to make that 50 billion posts..one would have been okay.
I think Dumbledore’s watch is just a watch. If it were something more then I think JKR would have mentioned something about Harry seeing more watch-like time turners in the departmant of mysteries.
Most people already think the RAB is Sirius’ brother. And, if it ment Rubeus Hagrid, Albus Dumbledore, Sirius Black, then why didnt they use all their first or last initials? Why go first first last?
I don’t know about Florean, but I think that Olivander went into hiding. I don’t think he would help Voldemort either way.
As far as Voldemort and the Potters being the only ones at their house that night, we already know thats not true. Sirius and Hagrid both were there, and we don’t know who else might have come before or after. Maybe Wormtail went to see what happened and found it or Voldemort possessed someone and went back for it.
“Neither can live while the other survives” doe not mean that you have to kill one to kill the other, it means that they can’t both continue to live together. Now, if Harry lives or not, I don’t know, but if he dies it wont be due to the prophecy.
February 27th, 2007 at 1:01 am
Hmmmmm… Ive been reading all of these comments for a couple of hours (i’m speedy) and you guys have given me a bunch to think about. I don’t have anything to add right this sec cuz you guys have touched everything potter-related that ever was. I was going to sleep tonight but that’s not going to happen. Oh and by the way Jordan, you have wonderful grammar skills, way to go. One last thing, are all you guys going to reserve copies of Hallows, because I was just gonna try and grab it when it comes out but I’ve heard about the whole “bestseller already” stuff and I dont know if I should risk it. Adios
February 27th, 2007 at 2:15 am
well i got rele bored today and came across this forum and jus put down everything in my head
LetteOwl no where in that profecy does it say kill and i didnt either. and why would jk make the profecy mean live together?
she hides little things and i believe dumbledores watch only memtioned once in the whole book is a logical thing she would do she leaves clues and things like that for careful readers to find.
and what about what i sed about gryffindors sword?
February 27th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
some new- look at the profecy agaiin. it says sumthing like: “either must die at the hand of the other, for neither can live while the other survives” this, i dont think, refers to harry being a horcrux.
i dont think that gryffindor’s sword is a horcrux because it was not protected at all and voldy would most likely guard the little peice of his soul. and i think that he would protect it with an elaborate system with things that he himself does not like.
how did voldy get his wand back? i agree with letteowl. the books never say if voldy entered the house alone or with others. when his wand backfired, a deatheater could have EASILY picked it up and fled.
February 27th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
i didnt say it was a horcrux what im showing you is that it says that voldemort has been searching about how how to destroy you and then the sun glows over the glass case of the sword. jkr dont randomly put stuff like that in whehn their talking about killing harry.
and think about what the sentence can mean not wut it says right in front of you. use ur english skills
February 28th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
who here would like to see more lego sets for the Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix movie. and i mean more than the four sets that were for the last movie
February 28th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
some new you have pretty good ideas but i don’t think that Harry is going to be killed. remember these are children’s books. well at least they used to be children’s books and i don’t think that J.K. Rowling would kill off Harry Potter.
February 28th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
people think she’ll do that because of what Sir Arther Conan Doyle did with his Sherlock Holmes novels but there weren’t things like Copywrite laws like there are today.
February 28th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
some new: i was looking at ur horcrux list again, and where do u get the idea of ravenclaw’s wand?…
i have thought about that sentence. and you know what? i hate english class because people read too much into things and make a GIANT deal out of ordinary things. i believe the profecy will be important, but i do NOT think that it says Harry is a horcrux! and by the way, i think that it just as important, if not more important, to use spelling skills so that people can understand your dumb ideas that you formulate by using things from english class
February 28th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
let’s not get carried away. no insulting others this is supposed to be a friendly site that everyone can express their ideas and i disagree with “some new” also but i respect his point of view. this is not a website to try and persuade the others to think as you do. but i do agree with you My Name he may have gotten too in depth while reading the book and i can’t see how the prophecy said that Harry is a horcrux.
the prophecy was saying exactly as Dumbledore said it means. it’s saying that neither of them want to live while the other survives. Voldemort doesn’t want a life that includes Harry Potter living which is why he will continue to try to kill Harry and Harry won’t be able to run forever so he must attempt to kill Voldemort.
February 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
I’m sure Harry’s not o Horcrux, where did we get the idea of ravenclaw’s wand, and dumbledore said that he is sure the only known relic of gryffindor (the sword) remains safe. And please people, if one more person spells “prophecy” wrong, I may start getting annoyed. Not that I can do anything, I mean, I know its just a time-saver, but how much longer would it take to type “P-R-O-P-H-E-C-Y?”
February 28th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
remember not to get too personal. the first one of these websites was ended because of that stuff and i won’t lie the first website of this had the best people with the greatest ideas on it
February 28th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
the only thing im trying to say is that if you look at the “prophecy” the way im trying to portray it it CAN SAY that harry is a horcrux. voldemort cant live(mortal life) while harry survives because harry is a horcrux. it is just an idea and no nead to get angry when u disagree
February 28th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
i understand what you are saying. and i would think that too if Dumbledore didn’t specifically tell Harry what it meant. remember Dumbledore was the witness of this profecy. it was made out to him
February 28th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
to be honest Some New i think that the last horcrux will be Nagini and not Harry
February 28th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
i dont think i understand how it being made to him has any affect or meaning on how its interpreted and there is a chance that dumbledore could be wrong but were all just taking it for granted that dumbledore knows what hes talking about
March 1st, 2007 at 12:29 am
Somenew, mortal or not, Voldemort is alive..even when he was just the face in the back of Quirrel’s head and depended on unicorn’s blood.
Kingsleton, if I were you, I’d preorder it. Im not, but I have an aunt whos picking it up for me because she works over night at target and gets to buy stuff before the store opens (selfless plug).
And, I agree with you, Jordan is a grammar king.
March 1st, 2007 at 4:54 pm
sorry, but I’m a bit of a spelling fanatic… I’ve already preodrered my copy, and am axiously counting the days until it comes out. sorry I was so mean… you guys are right, we do all have great ideas, and I’m pretty confident that harry isn’t a horcrux, but we really can’t rule it out as a possibility, I suppose.
March 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pm
I agree with letteowl. Why is there an invisible line between immortal and alive that before now, none of us have crossed. Voldemort is still alive, but he can’t be considered human, because the thing that defines humanity here has in this case been damaged beyond repair.
March 4th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
i do not think harry is horcrux because i mean wouldnt harry remember voldemort making him a horcrux,and it would be impossible pretty much to keep track of harry so im saying no hes not a horcrux,oh yeah if u think he might have done it when harry was one that would be really stupid because voldemort was just going to kill him afterward so therefor he was about to destroy his horcrux
March 4th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
IF harry were a horcrux, why would he remember it? Do you remember what happened to you when you were a baby?
And, IF he were a horcrux, that would actualy be pretty smart on Voldemort’s side..I mean, Harry is one of the most protected wizards out there, he has people dieing for him left and right, just to make sure hes alright.
That does leave the question of why does voldemort want to kill him so bad? Maybe he wants to kill him and then put some charm on him to keep his body intact after..I mean, after all, if just Harry or just Harry’s scar is the horcrux, then it really doesnt matter if he’s alive or not, does it?
Mind you, I don’t think Harry is a horcrux, butcha know…
March 5th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
go to hell this book is a peice of crap
March 5th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
i think in harry potter book 7 i think that maybe volomort might finally die by harry or some one else but i do not think that will happen because voldemort came back in most of the harry potter books and tried to kill harry but he coulden’t. the only thing that he did was in the 4th book all he did was he took some of his power back when he tuched harry’s scar to gain more power. iwonder if he dies in the 7th harry potter i have a feeling that harry might die but i am sure that harry will not die he will just be an ordanary wizerd from now on.
March 5th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
i really want to read the 7th harry potter and see what happens i am so excited
March 5th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Yo people I have a theory:Voldemort could be controlling Umbridge look there are clues *the dementors are taking orders from voldemort and Umbridge ordered them to attack harry *harry’s scar hurt when he toched her hand *She never actually encounters voldy does she? Tell me what you think
March 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! people? say somthing!!!!?
March 6th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
i kinda dont think that she is controlled by voldy cause at the time when she ordered dementors after Harry, they were still obeying the ministry. and they explained why harry’s scar hurt when she touched his hand.
March 6th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
they said they think they know about his scar its not definate cause he diddn’t go to albus
March 6th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
I think that she was just trying to look good for Fudge and get rid of Harry who had been a thorn in his side.
Fudge was her snookie-boo.
That, and Im sure that the extra power that Fudge was giving her over Hogwarts.
March 6th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
..didn’t hurt.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
good points guys. I was reading the chamber of secrets yesterday and after the second chapter, I had this feeling that there was something important there. I didn’t really recognize it until I logged back on here. When I went to re-read it, I got the same feeling, that there was some kind of horcrux there, but I still couldn’t find anything. I’m going to read it again, but I’ll be looking much more closely at the pages to find the source of my suspicions.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pm
feel free to join me and see if you get that same nagging suspicion somewhere inside you. It’s like, something’s pulling at my insides, inviting me to re-read over and over, but I just can’t seem to find the exact spot. I feel it though, like a sense somewhere in the back of my head. You guys please re-read if you have spare time and tell me if you find anything.
March 7th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
the diary is a horcrux and the sword could be but I’ll read CoS after chapter 2 to see
March 7th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
I will too…maybe.
March 8th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
i won’t… i’ll let u guys do that
but i dont think that the sword is a horcrux, voldemort
March 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
My Name u just said “i dont think the sword is a horcrux voldemort” but voldemort what?
March 8th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
SORRY DIDN’T MAEN THAT FORGET MY LAST COMENT!!!!!!!!!!
March 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
I don’t think theres a horcrux in CoS (apart from the diary)but there is somthing going on
March 8th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
It’s just some kind of weird premonition that I’m missing something important, but it might be nothing… But there’s something about it… It’s like, something in pretty much the very beginning of the book, and I don’t know what, but… well, there it is, to think about.
March 8th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
My Name, you lazy bum…
As far as there being a horcrux in that chapter, unless its Dobby’s pillowcase or the pudding dessert thingy, I can’t think of anything it could be.
March 9th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Character Information
* Dumbledore is really dead. He is not in hiding and is not coming back.
* There will be no character named “Icicle,” and JK said that she didn’t recall saying there ever would be
* Dumbledore is not Harry’s relative
* Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin
* Lily Potter is not alive
* Lily was not a Death Eater
* Crookshanks is not an Animagus
* Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew
* Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother
* Petunia is not a Squib
* Dumbledore is not Harry/Ron from the future
* Mrs Norris/Crookshanks will not be discovered as an Animagus
Plot Information
* Harry will not become Minister for Magic
* Peter Pettigrew’s silver hand will not kill Lupin
* Lupin will not return as a DADA professor
* The prophecy refers to Harry, and not in any way to Neville
* The final part of the prophecy does not mean Harry has to kill Neville, or vice versa
Other
* The title of the book will not be “Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat”
* No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry’s time at Hogwarts)
* “Keeper of the Keys” has no secret meaning
* The Sorting Hat is not a horcrux
March 9th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Damn, and I thought it was Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat..Bah humbug.
March 9th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
lol
March 9th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
no comment
March 9th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Dumbley is harry’s great great grandfather
March 9th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
hiso fffdfaaassyzdryserrt
March 9th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
maybe, voldemort, but again, I can’t say I honestly have an opinion. Maybe it true though. And again, no comment on your last comment.
March 9th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
*it’s
March 10th, 2007 at 2:06 am
I like this theory:
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/#scribbulus:essay:348
mind you, I still don’t think Harry is in any way a Horcrux, butcha know…
Oh, and, of the two, I think I like it better when Dumbledore gets to talk to Harry, Ron, or Hermione.
March 10th, 2007 at 4:29 am
Letter Owl-
i think harry is a horcrux im almost certain. I think it would be a nice twist and good way to finish him off…… so i agree with you.
xx
thank you for the theory ill have a look now!
March 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Harry a horcrux I dunno voldy could have made him 1 when he tried 2 kill him as a baby
March 11th, 2007 at 9:52 pm
I suppose he could have..maybe…I still really don’t think he did tho.
March 12th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
y?
it makes sense! It could of been an accident and he didnt relised it!
March 12th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
It makes sense. If he had 7 horcrucses (in HBP it says 7 is the most powerful number) he would have been undefeatable but he isn’t so he accidentally made 8
March 12th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
why would accidently making 8 suddenly make him defeatable?
And, Im sure there is some sort of spell or ritual or gift card you need to make a horcrux, otherwise all the death eaters would have accidental horcruxes…
March 13th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
i agree with letteowl. u make great points. i dont think its possible to make a horcrux by accident. u need 2 say a spell/incantation to make a horcrux, slughorn says so in his memory in HBP. plus seven is only the most powerfully magical number, its not what defines being undefeatable.
I dont think dumbledore is a relative of harry’s, cuz then harry would have gone to live with him instead of with the dursleys.
*Comments plz*
March 13th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
He might not have. Part of the reason that Dumbledore wanted Harry to live with the dursleys is cuz of the whole family thing, but another part is bacause he wanted Harry to grow up away from the wizarding world. I mean, think about it, if Harry grew up knowing he was famous he might not have been as humble as he was. That, and, with Dumbledore living at the castle, where would Harry have gone?
I don’t think they’re related either tho.
March 13th, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Oh, and thank you, by the way.
March 14th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
well… im not sure now
i still think he is though! Its hard well its a good theory (kinda) any one got anymore
and sorry just out of interest how old are you lot? are like older ppl and not teenagers or kids?
lol and do u all live in america
?
plz just out of interest
:D:D:D:D:D
March 14th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Right, i’m back. Well, first of all, I have so many theories, I will start with the subject of the 2 deaths.
I think that the 2 will be Snape and Draco Malfoy, my reasons for this because i was re-reading the 6th book and when snape makes the unbrakeable vow with Narcissa,
he says, that he promises to look after Draco ALWAYS.
If Voldemort is going to go after Draco he is most likly to kill him, meaning Sanpe will go to.
Another of my theories, the horcrux’s, here is a list:
* The locket.
* The ring.
* The diary.
* The mirror (in PS)
* The Cup
* The Snake, Nigini
* Harry’s scar, not Harry, HIS SCAR!!!!!!
Reason for harrys scar: My theory of how it ends:
Harry thinks that he is a horcrux, he searches for Voldemort and at the same time gradualy realising that he is not a horcrux but this will only hit him at the end. He is dueling with Voldemort and he is about to let Voldemort kill him when he realisies he is not a horcrux, as Voldemort shoots his avader kedebra, Harry does at the same time, hitting Voldemort back and killing him but Voldemorts curse is still shooting at Harry, but as Voldemort is killed it will knock his avader kedebra off course, so it will strike Harry right in his scar. Harry see’s Voldemort is dead and he wonders why his scar is not in sooooooooo much pain, then he looks in a broken peice of glass or a mirror, and relises his scar is gone. So Harry concors all!
Another of my theories, Professor Trelawney and Dobby could be more than what meeets the eye, I have noticed that in COS Dobby refferes to Voldemort as The Dark Lord, As does Professor Trelawney.
How is my punctuation? I am so nervouse i have SATS tomorro and I have been revising like crazy im actualy getting headaches every now and then I hope I do well! wish me luck! Oh, and comments on my theories?
March 14th, 2007 at 3:59 pm
Oh none of you are ever online when I come on!!!!!!
Come on at 6:00 if u in uk or woteva u in loool
March 14th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
I AM SO NERVOUSE!!!!!!EXAMS TOMORO!!!!!!!! W
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March 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
cherise: i thought of sumthing like that too, but i dont think it will happen. i don’t think that any part of Harry is a horcrux. by the way, i think ur punctuation is fine, but ur spelling needs a little work… as does mine…
i don’t think that harry was related to dumbly, cause dumbly would have told Harry, i think. there are other reasons i think that but im too lazy to type them and i have homework i shuld be doing… oh yeah, HP girl, i live in the USA!!!! and im in middle skool
March 14th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
I think McGonagle will b closer 2 harry cuz she seems 2 have got closer 2 him in all the books HPgirl I live in Ireland
March 14th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Cherise,
Thats an interesting theory about Snape and Malfoy..
I don’t think that either Dobby or Trelawney are death eaters or otherwise evily inclined. With Dobby, you have to remember that he has been living in a house where everyone calls Voldemorte “The Dark Lord,” so, Im sure thats rubbed off on him quite a bit. And, I think the reason Trelawney calls him that is because she is a seer..kinda..
My Name, your only in middle school!? I figured you were in high school at least…
Im 19, and in the USA too, btw..
March 14th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
Luna will play a part i think she will die and bill will b a wearwolf and fight voldy but he will die 2 that is the 2 deaths
March 14th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
I think harry will use the sword again
March 14th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Ok where i live in Ireland its 24:00 so I’m off 2 bed see ya!
March 14th, 2007 at 8:07 pm
I hate you…I wanna go to Ireland.
I think Percy will die. Yup. And, I agree with you about Luna having a big role in the next book…I hope she doesnt die tho, cuz shes the bee’s knees.
March 15th, 2007 at 11:55 am
Ok, Well, perhaps I was a little off course with The Dark Lord business, I dont think that Dumbledore and Harry are realated in any shape or form. But hey, what do you guys think about my horcrux theory?
I also think perhaps we will find out more about sirius’
past anyone agree?
March 15th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
We probably learn alot about sirius and regulas…At least, I hope we do…
March 16th, 2007 at 10:59 am
so any more theories on horcrux’s ppl?
March 16th, 2007 at 11:52 am
Ooooh i havnt ben on here in a while..I was just reading up on other peoples thortys and stuff..And you know someone said about .. you make horcruxes accidently .. i dont think you do .. yes, killing ‘rips the soul’ or something along those lines .. and volidmort has killed way more than 6-7 people .. So i think its pretty obvious ..
AND..Hpgirl..In 13..i live in your street..and i saw you on you bus home today bdw
Moving on .. Horcruxes ..
Well i always thought one of the horcruxes would be in (whats that shop where they sell all dark things and all that…like where malfoy purchased the hand of glory) *sorri .. my brains gone blank* Well in there
.. So either somthing thats still in there or somthing that was in there .. but has been sold .. so that makes it even harder to find it .. so its quite a good thing for him to do .. and he used to work in that shop so it would of been easy for him ..
March 16th, 2007 at 11:53 am
BORGAIN AND BURKS
.. Got it .. Haha
March 16th, 2007 at 11:56 am
so have u lot ditched me? lol
March 17th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Becca ur not 13!?! lol
was the matter cherise?
Its hard now to come up with theories! We’ve run out of ideas
Becca – wa u onna bt? Voldi’s doin wat now ? :S
tra x
March 17th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Ron r hermione might die maby nevill
March 17th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
God i just thought of something!!!!!! what if the “somthing of gryffendoor’s” horcrux is dumbley he could b Gryffendoor”s brother (hes old and lets face it we dont no how old he is) and drinking the locket potein he saw ha was a horcrux and sent a message 2 snape when he got 2 the castle he new he had 2 b destroyed he could have seen snape diddn’t want 2 kill him so he said the quote fromthe book “severous please” (remember) meaning please kill me
its good and it supports a lot of theories what do u think?
March 17th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
sorry i mean he saw HE was a horcrux
March 17th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
i don’t think it’s Dumbledore but it is an idea
March 17th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
hey my name, thanx for the confession on the 14th, I thought I might have been the youngest person on this blog. These are all good theories, and I don’t mean to scorn any of them, but let’s face it, some of them just don’t make a ton of sense. I think you guys are right and Dumbledore probably has some relation to Godric Gryffindor, but i don’t think Dumbledore is his brother, because then Dumbledore would have to be over a thousand years old. If Dumbledore could live that long, why wouldn’t Gryffindor himself still be alive now? I had a feeling that Ron might die, because it would present a huge twist, but I really hope Hermione doesn’t die because she’s pretty important – she’s the smartest of all of them. Luna will probably have a huge role, and we are almost definitely going to delve into the pasts of Sirius and Regulus. But I think the Dobby thing is a bit of a stretch,it just seems so unlikely because Dobby idolizes Harry.
*Comments plz*
March 17th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
The only way to find out for sure about these theories and others is by reading the sevenh book the instant it comes out. I will wait until midnight outside of Barnes and Noble to get my copy, which I have already reserved.
March 18th, 2007 at 5:57 am
Andrea – i agree with EVERYTHING that u sed on the 17th at 10:13. I hope Ron does NOT die.
Well im 12 by the way and live in WALES!
lol sorii
rihgt back to harry potter-
Lilly and Harrys eyes will have a big part in the plot. We know this J.K has confirmed her self! Luna i think will reveal somthing about her self and *shock* us, kinda. What if Harry is one of the ones who dies? Or she could mean as ANOTHER big character – voldi himself?
EVERYONE- i though the book release date was on the 07/07/07? not the 21/07/07??????? Im confused :S
*-Theories-*
March 18th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
7/7/07 was just a guess, people hoped it would be out on that day. the confirmed date is 7/21/07.
does anyone think Hagrid will die? i dont mind if Ron dies but i hope fred and george dont die…
March 18th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
reli ???
omg i do NOT like them …. even though they can be cool and really funny. Hagrid? Nah… He’s too stong to be defeated.
But (sorry for asking the obvious) does EVERYONE think that Ron and Hermionie get to gez atlast.
Appanrently it has been said that the wedding will be a disaster by Bill transforming? wat do u lot think?
and who could harry get togez with?
*xx*
March 18th, 2007 at 1:19 pm
Sorry to say this but its gonna SNOW here in wales tmr! Ha! to u lot in the US! 9(in a nice way):D
lol
hehe
March 18th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
maybe Harry will defeat Voldemort, and just as a crazy twist, right after he defeats Voldemort, he dies, just as a twist. I don’t honestly think that that’s going to happen, but maybe she’ll do that as a twist, but I hope not.
The wedding thing sounds like an interesting idea, but I’m not sure, because the wedding is probably going to be during the day, and now that the werewolf thing is one of the casualties, they’re probably going to plan around that. Personally, I thought Fleur would have been too shallow to keep the wedding on. But I guess even the biggest of airheads surprise us sometimes. And I also hope Ron and Hermione get together…
I wonder what’s going to happen between Harry and Ginny. I don’t think they’re going to get back together, but I feel almost sure that the flame hasn’t died, and something involving their romance in HBP will show up in Deathly Hallows.
March 18th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Hmmm, my first sentence in my last comment didn’t make as much sense on the screen as it did in my head.
March 18th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Andrea – i thik if she was gonna kill him off he would find out the only way to defeat voldi is to kill himself or somhting along the lines of that.
Actually now i think of it it wuld make perfect sense if that would happen and he was a horocux.
Weding- yeha fanx actually tha makes sense it cant happen during the day. BUT cause hes like half werewolf wat if that meant a side effect ws transforming during the day and thats why she MADE him half a werewolf.
Harry and Ginny- I do hope they do back togez they make such a cute couple.
lol But harry is too busy saving the world for love. lol Hermionie and Ron is OBVIOUS. you feel like shouting at the book just kiss him/her! lol 
xx[[xxx]]xx
March 18th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Brill site
March 19th, 2007 at 4:40 am
Harry and Ginny have to get back together cuz one of the major themes in the series is the whole “love conquers all” thing..
Same idea with Bill and Fleur, really..
And, with Lupin and Tonks..
March 19th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Letter Owl – oh yeah…. hermionie and ron aswell?
Harry and Ginny (mabey)?
March 19th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
I don’t think Harry and Ginny will get together, but something will happen, and it’ll come up, maybe something that happened in HBP?
March 19th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
is there anyone in here that were in the original forum?
Padfoot’s Paw?
Other Chosen One?
Fergie?
Raptor?
March 19th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
by the way i am 15. i joined this site when i was 13
March 19th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
it’s not like it matters if any of you are original members of this forum i was just wondering because i haven’t talked to the original people in a very long time.
March 19th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
we once got this site to be 99% when the 6th book was just coming out
March 19th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
interesting… we’re only at 2% now, but we’re all gonna have to chat nonstop to beat that record… anyway, lynah, any reactions to things you’ve read recently (stuff on this page)?
March 19th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
I didnt even notice the rating thing before now…hmm, go figure…
The Other Chosen One still comes around..I think
March 20th, 2007 at 8:06 am
i dont know why but i have re-read over and over the books and proffesor Trelawney just has this thing on me,
i dont know what but she called voldi the dark lord and she just seems very keen on peredicting harry dying, dont you thtink she could be in some realation.
i always thought about bill and fleur that voli would turn up at their wedding.
****** therories ppl ******
March 20th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
OMG! cherise! Yeah! What if she is in with Volid. Only Death Eaters (as harry says) call Voldi the Dark Lord! And she is VERY keen. i THINK YOUR RIGHT! She could be evil! A death Eater… what a twist! That makes sense
what if she dies (as one of the two that does?)
March 20th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
no objections… interesting theory, but I’m not really sure… it sounds like a stretch but I have also been wondering why Trelawney referred to Voldemort as the “Dark Lord”, but it seems kind of unlikely to me. I mean, she almost never leaves her tower room, and you can’t apparate within the hogwarts grounds, so how would Voldemort be able to use her, I mean, what would she be good for? It’s a good theory, though. These are just questions to think about…
March 20th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
I wonder how the imperius curse will come up in this book… Who will be put under it? And what’s gonna happen with McGonnagall?
March 20th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
i am almost certain that snape is a vampire
vampires are said to be able to turn into bats.
-when harry meets quirrel at the mirror in book one quirrel says something like ” yes, snape did everything in his power to stop me. Hovering around like and overgrown bat.”
-when harry in book 4 is discussing with hermione and ron about mr. crouch near the forest. Harry wonders if snape had something to do with it and then says ” i dont think he could have got down there that fast not unless he can turn into a bat or something
-when snape fills in for lupin in the 3rd book and he does the lesson on werewolves. when lupin gets back he does a lesson on vampires.
i know theres more but i cant remember right now but let me know wut you all think
March 20th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
srry i always write too much on these forums but wouldnt it make sense since voldemort put a horcrux in the cave and in the gaunt house that he put one in the riddle house and we possible over looked it on our trip there in the 4th book?
March 21st, 2007 at 2:39 pm
noob- hum….. yeah but what could it be!? They dont spend much time describing what is IN the house!?
humm… the vampire idea?
well mabey J.K just likes the metapohric use of a bat FOR snape. etc..
lol
ISNT IT HARD TO THINK OF NEW IDEAS?! ahah
March 21st, 2007 at 3:04 pm
yea i know the chapter is vague and brief but somewhere in the books weve come across a horcrux somewhere any ideas
March 21st, 2007 at 3:15 pm
good ideas… you’re probably right about the riddle house thing, but didn’t voldemort hate his father when he discovered who he was… just a thought, but I agree… i can’t think it what it could be though…
the snape thing makes sense, but i don’t think that snape is a vampire… lupn’s not one to sink to snape’s level…
March 21st, 2007 at 3:16 pm
*lupin
March 21st, 2007 at 3:51 pm
yeah i suppose..
oh well good ideas ppl!
March 22nd, 2007 at 1:21 pm
Ok, i just had a thought, about my theiory, on Proffessor Trelawney, well, like i said on her reffering to voldemort as The Dark Lord, and on her always predicting harry death, but as you said she never comes down from her tower, well , how do we know that? i mean, Harry and others never worry about her were abouts. so how could we know?
**********well what do you think about this one?******
********** could she be work ing for voldemort?******
also, she is usful with the prophecy, remember, she forsaw it. and what she has told voldi?
___________________________well? comments plz__________
March 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Cherise- EXACTLY!
I think its a brill theory tha wuld explain her hiding in the tower, predicitons etc .. all wa u sed blah blah blah .. BUT I TOTTALY AGREE!
keep going Cherise!
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pm
I don’t think so. When she made the prophecy about Pettigrew, she didn’t remember making it. and since you can’t apparate in and out of hogwarts/hogwarts grounds, how would she have gotten there. When Umbridge almost chucked her out, she sobbed “Hogwarts is my home!” and Harry said something about her being in the corridors was a rare occurance…
but I kind of like the idea… I never really liked Trelawney.
March 22nd, 2007 at 4:04 pm
I mean, that thoery would explain a lot, but there are a few big holes in it… I guess the only way to find out is to read the book…
Lets all make a promise to keep discussing all the crazy things that we don’t believe happened, evenafter the book comes out… Make a posting as soon as you finish the book so no one gives anything away before the others are done.
March 22nd, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Maybe the reason that shes up in her tower so much is cuz Dumbledore doesnt want Voldemorte to get her..
March 23rd, 2007 at 12:58 pm
well……. uhhhh…. i cant think of anyhting to say now… ma minds gone blank
March 23rd, 2007 at 1:42 pm
well i suppose there IS nothing to say… we’ve lost it.. nothing else can be thought up we can only arguing wat we think will happen! lol
well its true aint it? thres nothing more to thinkn …. im gonna c if i can find some more FACTS
sorii for being deressing and if annoying. . lol
love you all (expecially… Ni-Ni and Becca)
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pm
Ok, lol more on my theiory, how do we know she didnt remember her predicton? all she did was say, we can all do that caant we.
Harry Potter Girl by any chance do you know dis gal called Janine Powelle? and do you go St.Bernerds?
aniwais thanks hun for supportin my theoiry……xxxxxx
March 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Oh, and Andrea, about what you said about apparatin,
Ok we thought students couldnt get out like that, but draco did it, wid the cabnit member? so maybe she is usin it or sumthin simular
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March 23rd, 2007 at 5:16 pm
OH! right! IM SO exCITed….
rite, re-reding OOTP and Phineas Nigellus Calls voli the dark lord! just think! alotgh only a portraite
he is still always in the headmastrs office and probably in all the meetings!
OH IM SO EXCITED im goin to serch up more!!!!!!
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March 24th, 2007 at 5:48 am
cherise – uh no i live in wales go to Y Pant Comprehensive and i have no idea who tha girl is soz.
The Phineas Nigellas idea- well he was a Black and he was in Slytherin and Serius (or wat eva) sed that some of the ppl in his family were death eaters so si it really improtant,
THANKS by the way for thanking me lol
xx[xx]xx
March 24th, 2007 at 7:31 am
Lol its ok
March 24th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
um the basilisk is NOT a horcruz because harry killed it when he was in the chamber of secrets. I am more than sure that we have seen huffleuffs cup before too in one of the books and we have never noticed it.
March 24th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
um and also there is NO way trelwary is with volemort. first off she falls into a trance. now honestly if you lived in this mythological world would you believe a se-er who took the time to say he-who-must-not-be-named in a friggin prophecy or vision? lets be serious. secondly trelwary has ALWAYS been making somewhat ridiculous predictions. but in book 5 when walking through the halls trying to hide her cherry bottles she was reading tarot cards that talked about.. the TOPMOST TOWER. death. coming sooner and sooner. HELLO TOPMOST TOWER? DUMBELDORE DYING ON THE TOPMOST TOWER? she has always predicted ridiculous things but does anyone think she might .. JUST might have the inner eye? but since shes so damn out there no one can actually take her seriously? she saw the grim in harrys cup.. and um hello? sirius was a dog that looked like the grim. its all about simple detective work.
March 25th, 2007 at 8:10 am
Firstly, its Professor Trelawney, not trelwary,
Secondly, Her predictions may be bizarre, but some have come true, and watever if she was in a trance she still sed that he was “The Dark Lord” and same goess with the prophecy, it says on it…:
………….S.P.T to A.P.W.B.D…………….
…………. Dark Lord …………….
…………. and (?)Harry Poter……………
See, Still says “The Dark Lord”
And, correct me if im wronge, but it says in OOTEP,
Only DeathEaters reffer to him as “The Dark Lord”.
And WHAT do you mean by be serious!? If I remember correctly, she also says
“The Inner Eye does not See upon command!”
she says this when Professor Umbridge asks her to make a prediction for her.
And Lastly we werent talking about the basilisk,
we were talking about Nigini. We know Nigini is alive because she is in the latest book out. HBP, ok?
so sorry but i completly disagree with you.
March 25th, 2007 at 8:14 am
Firstly, its Professor Trelawney, not trelwary,
Secondly, Her predictions may be bizarre, but some have come true, and watever if she was in a trance she still sed that he was “The Dark Lord” and same goess with the prophecy, it says on it…:
………….S.P.T to A.P.W.B.D…………….
…………. Dark Lord …………….
…………. and (?)Harry Poter……………
See, Still says “The Dark Lord”
And, correct me if im wronge, but it says in OOTEP,
Only DeathEaters reffer to him as “The Dark Lord”.
And WHAT do you mean by be serious!? If I remember correctly, she also says
“The Inner Eye does not See upon command!”
she says this when Professor Umbridge asks her to make a prediction for her.
March 25th, 2007 at 8:14 am
And Lastly we werent talking about the basilisk,
we were talking about Nigini. We know Nigini is alive because she is in the latest book out. HBP, ok?
so sorry but i completly disagree with you.
March 25th, 2007 at 8:17 am
SO , what do you say on that people? did i outsmart him or am i wronge ? loool
March 25th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Sorry, I ment we saw Nigini in GOF.
March 25th, 2007 at 8:21 am
Oh, sorry, for some reason it has put my theoiry in twice
loool
March 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
i think I know why it was labelled “the Dark lord”. didn’t rookwood (a death eater) used to work in the department of mysteries? he might have labelled it. i think trelawney does have the gift, it would connect quite a few breaks in the story. btw draco doesn’t apparate into the castle, there’s just a kind of secret passage between them. yeah Phineas Nigellus was supposed to have been the worst headmaster hogwarts ever had, so it makes sense he would be totally evil, but Voldemort was after is time…
March 25th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
btw i meant those Vanishing cabinets. i admire your determination with that theory but if u read draco’s confession speech @ the end of HBP, u get that he found a passage between them cuz fred and george sent Montague into the vanishing cabinet in OOTP. btw, we dont know she didn’t remember the prophecy she made to harry, but she was acting seriously confused. she doesn’t have any reason to lie 2 Harry about that. she said in HBP she missed having Harry in class- he wasn’t much of a seer but he was a wonderful object…
March 25th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
does anyone thnk its kinda funny that all of us can say Voldemorts name? i maen it probably cuz we werent raised hearing about all his evil deeds, but its like seriously a big part of the plot that everyone is scared of saying Voldemort’s name.
March 25th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
*mean
March 26th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Well,i didnt say he apparated? i just ssaid he got out of the castle when we all thought it impossible without aparating.
March 26th, 2007 at 10:00 am
about the death eater labeling the prophecy,
arent there assigned jobs?
March 26th, 2007 at 10:33 am
i thought he worked with umbridge
March 26th, 2007 at 10:46 am
who are you penelope? where did YOU come from? lol
ur disagreeing with EVERYONE! lol
(in a nice way , seen really nice! nad we knwo the basilik is not a horacux! lol
we never thought tha x
love u x
March 26th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
Harrypottergirl wots ur name??????
March 26th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
lol init, what do you think on my latest theoiry hpgirl
ots sort of arguin wid peelopy but only makin the obvious clear loool
March 26th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
*its
March 26th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
penelopy, no affence but i completly disagree with you just so everyone sees my theoiry to you here it is, and incaase you have not seen it……
Firstly, its Professor Trelawney, not trelwary,
Secondly, Her predictions may be bizarre, but some have come true, and watever if she was in a trance she still sed that he was “The Dark Lord†and same goess with the prophecy, it says on it…:
………….S.P.T to A.P.W.B.D…………….
…………. Dark Lord …………….
…………. and (?)Harry Poter……………
See, Still says “The Dark Lordâ€
And, correct me if im wronge, but it says in OOTEP,
Only DeathEaters reffer to him as “The Dark Lordâ€.
And WHAT do you mean by be serious!? If I remember correctly, she also says
“The Inner Eye does not See upon command!â€
she says this when Professor Umbridge asks her to make a prediction for her.
And Lastly we werent talking about the basilisk,
we were talking about Nigini. We know Nigini is alive because she is in the latest book out. HBP, ok?
so sorry but i completly disagree with you.
March 26th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
huh? rookwood wuz a death eater, maybe he relabelled it b4 he got busted 4 his death-eater-ness. ps even if the basilisk was a horcrux, it doesnt matter because harry killed it. besides, why would voldemort need 2 snake horcruxes? Nagini would have been plenty. ps (again) her name is NAGINI not nigini. just 4 future reference
March 26th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
i just had an idea! What if one of the horcruxes is the cauldron that wormtail used to make Voldi alive again? It would make sense! Dumbledore said that …
oh wait that wouldnt make sense, he would already have his six horcruxes (plus the seventh bit of the soul inside Voldi) . I was gonna say u should make horcruxes out of important things, and something that brought Voldi back 2 life seems kind of like something that would be important to Voldi…
March 26th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
hmmm… who said that the last horcrux was in borgin and burkes?
because ur probably rite… awesome theory!!!
March 26th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
Hey guyss. Haven’t been on in a while.
Okay call me crazy but there has got to be like a rat inside Hogwarts right? I don’t think its Snape. I’ll explain why later. Call me crazy but I think its McGonagall. I’m writing out a theory right now but for those of you reading the books right now carefully look at all fo her actions. They are always very neutral. More later.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
Hey guyss. Haven’t been on in a while.
Okay call me crazy but there has got to be like a rat inside Hogwarts right? I don’t think its Snape. I’ll explain more on why later. Call me crazy but I think its McGonagall. I’m writing out a theory right now but for those of you reading the books right now carefully look at all fo her actions. They are always very neutral. More later.
March 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
I swear there is evidence lol.
March 26th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
that’s kinda weird… I am really interested in what u have to say to back up that theory, and i’m anxious to find out how I can disprove (or at least disagree with) that theory.
lol just kidding. but i really am interested 2 hear the evidence
March 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
ive seen an article on Mcgoanla being a DE and i have to say i agree with it ill look for the article later im just so damn tierd now i had all school games today and then i had baseball practiced and i have like 6 baseball games this week
March 27th, 2007 at 10:13 am
okay well first off. for the record. SOMEONE EARLIER. said that they thought the basilisk was a horocrux. its not like i was pulling it out of my ass. secondly if youre going to just fucking get on me for spelling Trelawney wrong then please go suck my nut
.. secondly.. if youre going to correct my spelling atleast spell my name correctly THANKS:)
and i suggest you all go through the books again because some of your theories are COMPLETLY morphed and ridiculous. okay thanks
March 27th, 2007 at 10:15 am
oh and ps. for the record you spelled nagini wrong. since we are all apparently english teachers these days
March 27th, 2007 at 10:20 am
oh and again. im a girl not a guy cherise. or whoever the fuck you are.
March 27th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
the other chosen one–
Welcome back!! hurry up with posting ur new theory… but i dont think she’s a death eater…
March 27th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
okay a couple of things…
Penelope-
I understand your frustration completely, but please try not to lose your temper like that. We don’t wanna get shut down, like the people on the very first forum, if you look back, I did a similar thing on February 28, and i got the same speech I’m giving you now.
Cherise-
your theories are brilliant, and I love your delivery and the passion you feel for those theories when you tell us about them. you have great grammar.
your spelling could use a little work, though.
Both of you, please, Please, PLEASE try to control your tempers.
March 27th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
No offense meant… honestly
March 27th, 2007 at 3:38 pm
In fact, I think we could all work on our spelling…
and our tempers.
March 27th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
(including me)
March 27th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
hey guys I’m changing my name to PotterFan. If there are any postings from her, they are really me.
March 27th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Yay! My first posting with my new name!
March 27th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
hey guys. i was on the first forum and the second one and just got around to this one and reading up on the new theories and wow. you’s have all given me a new angle to think about. McGonagall eh? i can’t personally see it but then again i couldnt see dumbledore dying. McGonagall always seemed so …loyal to dumbledore but skimming over the books, you have a point. she always has been nuetral. i cant picture any of the teachers..besides snape ( and im not going to go into that) that would join voldemort. perhaps a student…
March 27th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Hmmmmm…….i’ve been reading some of everybodys theories (because this is my first time on this forum),and I have a few things to point out.Cherise your theorie about Trelawney being a Death Eater doesn’t make much sense because she could just take Harry to Voldemort at anytime considering that Harry was 1 of her students,and i’m pretty sure Voldemort only knows half of the prophocy because if he knew the whole prophocy then he wouldnt need to go to the department of mysteries.
March 28th, 2007 at 9:51 am
Cherise- im not ginving my name.. not in a chat roomthing sorry.. Penelope…. im sorry i dont AGREE with ANY of ur theories.
lol
uhh well…. Cheries– thas al right huni
Pugman – u aint been on here IN AGES!
lol
xx
bubi everyone
March 28th, 2007 at 10:15 am
Ok, Well (still not losin temper just sayin)
I didnt start on you Penelope I just didnt agree with you, you dont have to get stresed, and, I was only pointing out that her name is not trelawry, Trelawney.
You dont have to get annoyed, I mean its only a website to discuss what you think is right or wrong,
No affence, but you have only joined this site recently,
So dont go causing arguements and losing this site for us because Thats what Happend to the last site, and those people were the best, they always had theoirys,
and they were the best, if your going to cause us arguements, then go.
And, I only corrected your spelling because, I dont know about you, but I like to see what im writing.
March 28th, 2007 at 10:47 am
*reading
March 28th, 2007 at 10:58 am
And of course I am expecting another nasty comment from you, so just for the record i am not going to argue over the internet. that is just sad, the only people who do that are little dweebs who poo themselves when someone starts on them in the real world, they act all hard over the net but the are just little dweebs.
so it will be pointless to reply with a nasty comment, because I am just going to ignor it. it is REDICULOSE.
March 28th, 2007 at 11:03 am
just for those who might see me as petty,
i am NOT started a arguement.
March 28th, 2007 at 11:08 am
*starting
March 28th, 2007 at 11:33 am
Anyway, moving on, anymore theoirys?
I’m orking on mine so mine are only going to be told when i am more or less sure they are good.
March 28th, 2007 at 1:17 pm
heh…dweebs. ^-^
March 28th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
The covers are up!!! woo!
March 28th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Oh, I think there is something with Trelawney,
Now she has mentioned Voldemort as “The Dark Lord” twice. Once in “The Prizoner Of Azcaban” and once in,
“The Order Of The Pheonix” so, I’m not sure, I’m going to look into it further. more later.
______________________________________________________
xxx…Cherise…xxx
March 28th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
I don’t really think shes bad, just confused. If she were on Voldemort’s side then he would know that she had made the prophecy and would get it out of her making the whole sixth book unneeded
March 28th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Well, That’s twice Professor Trelawney has referred to Voldemort as “The Dark Lord†Once in “The Prisoner Of Azkaban†and once in “The Order Of The Phoenixâ€.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I’m still not sure, I’m going to search more.
Meanwhile, I have another important theory supporting mine on Phineas Nigellus, I have just realised, In “Order of the Phoenix†When Professor Dumbledore is telling Harry about the prophecy he is there! Do you see what I mean? He could be carrying all of this back to Voldemort.
I shall research more.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
This isn’t a web sight designed to convince other people that your theories are correct, it’s a web site to just discuss them. Maybe they are right, and we can argue them, but this isn’t a jury. We don’t all have to agree.
welcome, Katie and Fergie
LetteOwl, you haven’t been on in a while!
Ps Cherise, that thoery sounds possible, and maybe even probable, but how would he get to Voldemort? This posting is getting kind of long, so my explanation will come in the next one.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Okay, Cherise, Phineas Nigellus isn’t very nice, and we all knew that. He may even have some affiliation with, what we call, “The Dark Side.” However, the headquarters of the order of the phoenix is protected by that same charm the potter house was protected by. You know the one where I could say where it is and you could spend your entire life looking exactly where I told you and never find it unless the “Secret-Keeper” tells you. So, Voldemort wouldn’t be able to get into Number 12, Grimmauld Place. Phineas can go into Number 12 because he has 2 portraits – one there, and one in Dumbledore’s office. If Voldemort couldn’t get in, and there are no enchanted canvases outside so that Phineas could get outside, how would he be able to tell Voldemort?
March 28th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
I’m sorry I shoot down all your theories, but I see problems with them. But I really like that one…
Sorry, did I say I see problems with them? I meant that there are small holes that could undo them. If you can give me hard-hitting evidence that proves that’s how it is, then you totally have me convinced.
I love that theory.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
also in my 4:16 posting, I forgat to once again bring up the fact that Phineas was before Voldemort’s time.
March 28th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
*forgot
and I’m sorry I have, like, a million postings in a row
March 28th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Hmm…Phineas Nigellus is probely not workin’ for Voldemort considering the fact that he is a painting.Anyway the paintings are only there to help the current headmaster of hogwarts,and im pretty sure that Phineas is before Voldemort’s time.Since he’s sirius’s great grandpa or somthin’
March 28th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Not that it wasnt a great theorie Cherise
March 28th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
oh my god,if you havent already seen it, J.K released the cover of book 7 i’ve just saw it!
March 28th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
What do you think:is Snape evil or good?
Dont ask me why but i think he’s good.
March 28th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
Is anybody there?!
March 28th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Hey guys if you wanna see art cover for DH go to:
1. http://mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/dhcovers/hp7childus.jpg
2. http://mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=/dhcovers/hp7childuk.jpg
Okay McGonagall. I’m not saying this will ahppen or she is a DE. I’d be surprised amoung anythgn if this was true. But its still def something to look out for. It also roots on my other theory for Snape being good.
J.K. Rowling has structured a very real war that mirrors reality to the letter. Good and evil, battles and warriors, jail breaks, messages intercepted, forging difficult alliances, breaks within allies, casualties… She’s covered many of the bases real armies during real warfare face. And there are always spies, whether in actual combat or literature. Why would Jo abandon this particularly juicy war situation? The conclusion, the obvious, canon, irrefutable and inarguable conclusion is that Snape is a spy.
For Dumbledore, of course.
There are easily dozens of reasons that explain Snape’s murder of Dumbledore. They have already been covered exceptionally well and there’s no purpose in re-tracing them. But there’s one, solid reason that has been kicked off the path – because, frankly, it’s not something fans like to think about at all.
Snape does not exist. He is a character created from a woman’s imagination. The daily lives of students and the subtle dealings of politicians and teachers didn’t unfold in reality – they were invented [what a slap in the face, I know]. J.K. Rowling has written a book. [I can hear a few fans dying untimely deaths at their computer screens at this information. I’m sorry. It was a shock for me too]. Its characters must be viewed that way, as creations not as real people with real agendas, if we want to get very far in our deductions. And the trademark of the Harry Potter books is their author’s exceptional understanding of red herrings. The term “red herring†comes from a form of hunting, where a fish would be dragged across a trail to throw the dog off the true scent onto the fish. Literarily, we’re all familiar with how a red herring is used. The reader is given a strong scent to follow that distracts them from the weaker, true scent underneath. The red herring actually protects the weaker scent by giving a false sense of security that “you’re on the trail.†The moment of triumph for the well-placed red herring is when you look up in shock as the well-hidden truth is revealed and you realize that you never even caught a whiff of it.
Does this sound like the trail of Severus Snape as a Death Eater? Certainly not. Snape’s dark leanings are definitely the stronger scent. Even Snape’s strongest supporters (who I proudly throw in my lot with) don’t look at him and instantly have a feeling of goodwill and joy towards him. Nobody – nobody – unconditionally trusts him. How could Jo plant such an obvious spy, a spy that nobody trusts? He couldn’t be a very effective spy, literarily or as a character, if there was a major debate running over whether he was one or not. No, she’ll hide him well from us and the characters, and keep up his cover until the last possible second, when the red herring and the weaker scent will both come out.
The foundation has just been laid for the character of a spy. At the end of book six, we must be completely and utterly convinced of his (or her) goodness.
Who do we trust implicitly? Who is the one person that is never leaped upon and mauled by violent fans? Who is one of the two most trusted by Dumbledore?
Professor McGonagall.
Preposterous.
Because we trust her. Because Dumbledore trusts her.
And here the puzzle begins to take shape. Dumbledore tells Harry in HBP:
“I make mistakes like the next man. In fact, being — forgive me — rather cleverer than most men, my mistakes tend to be correspondingly huger.”
In fact, the idea of Dumbledore being human, making mistakes, and trusting where trust should not be given is largely understood as one of the major themes of the books. In the post-HBP interview, JK Rowling mentions Dumbledore’s fallibility and the issue of trust, his one blind spot. Characters, good and bad, have stated, mentioned, or sneered that “Dumbledore is too trusting,” at least once in every book. Jo is giving us a clear warning about something.
Could it be Severus Snape? Certainly, Dumbledore has said a hundred times that “I trust Severus Snape,” and that specific trust is mainly what is alluded to as the foolish choice. Then when Snape is “revealed” at the end of HBP and kills Dumbledore, the leads and hints all seem to come to their obvious conclusion. But the very word “obvious” makes me pause and step back. This is J.K. Rowling – she doesn’t do “obvious.” This scent is far too strong to be the truth. If the quote about mistakes doesn’t refer to Snape, then what can we pin it to? Something that Dumbledore, Harry, and us, the readers, have taken at face value and accepted – a dangerous something and a well hidden something. Because if Dumbledore didn’t realize it, how could we dare imagine that it would be something obvious?
Have we actually toyed with the idea that Dumbledore could be blinded by someone with the past that Snape has? Dumbledore may be too trusting, but he is not an idiot. To think that he would make such an enormous judgment call is an affront to his memory. Mistaken trusts do not occur when there is an enormous mound of evidence and you choose to disregard it – they happen when you fail to look closely at something at all. Dumbledore looked very closely at Snape and, taking all evidence into consideration, trusted him. He also looked very closely at Tom Riddle and distrusted him. He will not be hoodwinked once he has been put on his guard – he is, after all, one of the greatest wizards in a century. But if he doesn’t put his guard up at all – if there are no hints to warn him – if there is no reason to look past the facade – Dumbledore just might make a mistake and trust the wrong person.
Who but McGonagall?
But – she’s so wonderful! We love her and cheer for her – her crotchety old spirit, strength of character, biting wit, her constant support of Harry even under pressure, and the fact that she is just plain cool… A bit like Mad-eyed Moody in GOF. Jo doesn’t mind giving us a favorite character whom we respect and chuckle behind our sleeves at (The Amazing Bouncing Ferret, anyone?), and then smashing our castle brutally. And McGonagall isn’t a person. She is a character. A very cool character, but a character invented by an author who has proven that she is the master of the red herring.
By the way, did you know that McGonagall and Tom Riddle went to school together?
McGonagall is two years older then Tom Riddle, according to the Harry Potter Lexicon, which dates McGonagall’s birthday in 1925 and that Voldemort’s in 1926 or 1927. Therefore they both attended Hogwarts and were within two school years. It’s safe to assume that they were both prefects. They must have known each other. This seems to be very important information – why haven’t we been told? The only reason we wouldn’t be told was if JK Rowling didn’t want us to know. And why wouldn’t she want us to know something so important but seemingly so innocuous? Perhaps because it isn’t innocuous. There is a parallel nature to their lives that gives two foundations: one, it gives ample opportunity for them to meet and become connected, and two, it leaves doors opened for later explanations of events – such as the connection between Voldemort’s job at Borgin and Burkes and McGonagall starting at Hogwarts, which happened a year apart.
Certainly, we cannot convict McGonagall on the grounds of “having opportunity to side with Tom Riddle.†But although we all love McGonagall, has she ever done anything that would disqualify her for being a Death Eater? When we rush to defend her, citing cases of strength of character and witty retorts, do we ever have in our hands actions – things that she herself has committed – that place her firmly on the side of Dumbledore? In other words – what, officially, prevents us from believing that McGonagall is a spy? And is lack of evidence for a good McGonagall enough to convict? After all, none of her actions show any leaning towards evil, although noticeably neutral. Nothing she’s done is actually suspicious… Or…. perhaps it is.
Perhaps the fact that she appears at Privet Drive that fateful day before Dumbledore. The fact that he was not anticipating her arrival, although it “amused†him. Process that. Dumbledore didn’t send McGonagall to Privet Drive. So what was McGonagall doing all day – the most important day in Wizarding history – sitting on a stone wall? Especially when we find out that she had no idea that Harry was arriving there. How did she know that Dumbledore was going to be at Privet Drive – or did she even know? And if she didn’t know, why was she there? Why is she so angry – angry – at the celebrations taking place? Why does Jo attach adjectives to her like “coldlyâ€, “piercingâ€, “sharplyâ€, and “angrily†all in the same two pages as they are discussing – not the death of Lily and James – but the demise of Voldemort? Why does she become almost out of control at the idea of Harry living with the Dursleys? And why are there so many unanswered questions about McGonagall from this one scene?
It’s not only the opening chapter of PS/SS that cast a shadow over McGonagall. The trio goes to her with the information that the Philosopher’s/Sorceror’s Stone is about to be stolen. When Harry wants to talk to Dumbledore and tells her it’s secret, she’s “cold†and answers him sharply. Why the negative response? But that’s nothing compared to her reaction to their knowledge of the Philosopher’s Stone. She is extremely flustered, dropping things, reacting with “suspicion and shock†that these children know such a well hidden secret. Which makes me wonder – if these children know such a well kept secret, isn’t it less guarded then originally thought? And if that’s the case – shouldn’t she at least mention it to Dumbledore? Considering that she’s his second in command, the fact that she doesn’t even notify him is very strange.
Remember her reaction to Ginny’s return – alive and well – in CoS?
“I think we’d all like to know [how she got out alive],” McGonagall said weakly.
Weakly. She’s certainly in a bit of shock. Remember who was with Barty Crouch Jr. when the dementor administered the kiss in GoF? Isn’t it strange that one of the most powerful witches of her day couldn’t prevent that happening in the same room with her? Re-reading the books, I’m struck by how often McGonagall’s actions are neutral, and how often her words could be taken to mean so many different things. When McGonagall first hears of Dumbledore’s murder, she sinks into a chair in shock and gasps:
“Snape…We all wondered… but he trusted… always… Snape… I can’t believe it…â€
Substitute Voldemort for “he†in that sentence and listen to the implications – a bit shocking how easy that was, isn’t it?
Even beyond double meanings, though, the final scene with Harry and McGonagall is disturbing. Harry will not tell her about his trip with Dumbledore, and her reaction – rather then grudging acceptance of his loyalty to Dumbledore – is anger and frustration. But she too is supposed to be loyal to Dumbledore – and considering that he’s just died, the fact that she is prying into his personal information through Harry seems at best inconsiderate, and at worst – treacherous.
J.K. Rowling is playing a very tight game here. She has to give us enough very cleverly hidden clues so that when the truth is revealed, we believe it despite the shock and horror, because we can return to the older material and find the weaker scent. However, if there is too much evidence and paper trail, it’s ferreted out and there is no surprise. Is there lack of evidence? No. Is there abundance of evidence? Obviously not.
Alright, I admit that there isn’t any conclusive evidence against McGonagall. But let’s do a bit of literary role playing. You are J.K. Rowling. You are starting to plot out the Harry Potter books, and you decide, for kicks, to create a spy. You want it to be revealed at the end of the seventh book, so for six books you have to hide him from your readers prying eyes. You begin to lay out the game plan, with this thesis – if there was a spy, what would he look like and how would characters around him behave? He would be:
Trusted by Dumbledore – high up in command.
Trusted by Harry and his friends.
Trusted by the readers.
No doubt about his/her loyalties.
There would need to be someone or something to distract people (readers and characters) from thinking about him/her at all – say, a more obvious target.
Someone with ties to Voldemort that were discreetly hidden.
Mild hints scattered that were recognizable from hindsight, but barely visible at first glance.
Nothing to disqualify him/her – random acts of goodness – that would have to be explained away.
Is there anything I missed?
If there was a spy at Hogwarts, his/her character would be developed in exactly the same way as McGonagall’s character. Catch that?
If JK Rowling created a spy for Voldemort, she would have to create the character in the same way she has created McGonagall.
I’d say that that’s an indictment.
It’s still all guesswork and whistling in the dark, of course. But then, if it was anything else and we could prove it, JK Rowling wouldn’t be a master at her trade, now would she?
I know, I know it is far fetched. But it does make sense. I doubt it’ll happen though. To tell the truth I wrote this 2 1/2 months ago in Physics, I was so bored. Your thoughts?
March 28th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
firstly let me say. that i am not trying to be argumentative. however just because I am new to the website doesnt mean my opinions and ideas arnt as important. i think we all seem to have an intrest in harry potter. while i understand we might all not agree we dont have to be nasty and ridiculous by correcting spelling and grammar. thats all i really need to say and im not going to post on this forum again. thanks
March 28th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Harry Potter girl ive been here the whole time just listening in the shadows i cant really write theoris b/c baseball is taking up all ym time i have a game pretty much everyday b/c im lpaying JV and V this year. also guys i have a theory but i just cant put it into words
March 29th, 2007 at 2:21 am
Hey guys! Long time no type. We have an official cover :p
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/dhuk.jpg
Smaller one: http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/stories/2007/mar/hpdhcover.jpg
All we can do is wait now.
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March 29th, 2007 at 2:23 am
Hey guys! Long time no type :p We have covers!
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/dhuk# (UK cover)
And a smaller one (US Cover): http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/stories/2007/mar/hpdhcover.jpg
Sorry for not visiting, I’ve been busy :p
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March 29th, 2007 at 2:24 am
Apparently my comment about covers is appearing but I can’t see it …
Hey guys! Long time no type :p We have covers!
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/dhuk# (UK cover)
And a smaller one (US Cover): http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/Images/stories/2007/mar/hpdhcover.jpg
Sorry for not visiting, I’ve been busy :p
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March 29th, 2007 at 6:25 am
i think dumbledore mite not be dead coz he mite hav also had a horcrux
March 29th, 2007 at 6:45 am
I think J.K.R said something about Sirius and Dumbledore are dead,and not comin’ back,buttt Dumbledore’s painting in the headmasters office is goin’ to help The Harry Potter Trio out.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:38 am
maybe not as harry pretty much told everyone he wasnt going back to hogwarts so unless mcgonnagal sends it in the mail. yes ive seen the cover and to be honest i dont really like it. but ah well= it’ll be the story that makes me buy it.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Hmmm, yeah i forgot he was before Voldemorts time, Oh well, I’m still going to reseaerch it a little bit, but I’m going to look for more mostly to, and search up on Professor Trelawney.
Could there be another portrait of Phineas Nigelus?
Penelope, I didn’t mean go off this, All I was pointi[ng out was that there is no need to get frustrated, when all I did was correct your spelling and make a few pointers. Of course, I didn’t mean go away, by all means, continue on this website, and just control your temper. Thats all.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:58 am
What is the website to see the new cover??????
March 29th, 2007 at 11:08 am
Katie
Yes, I think he is good to, Who said about Professor Snape being a vampire? Thats a well good theory, I could realy see that as a twist. And you are right, there are plenty of signs as to him being a vampire.
I think he is good because I think he didn’t want to kill Dumbledore.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Random
Yes perhaps he is not dead, I know J.K said that he will not come back (as she did with Sirius) But it would ruin alot of the story if she said that, I dont realy think she would admit it on live t.v do you?
March 29th, 2007 at 11:14 am
Would it matter if he was before Lord Voldemorts time?
Either way couldnt he join him? hmmmmmm I’m getting further with my theory on Professor Trelawney. But I will only say them when I think it is right, So more soon.
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March 29th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Oh Look, the popularity has gone up to 3!
March 29th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
lol!
u noticed tha?!
lol
wat are the latest GOOD therories??? i cant be bothered to read them all tell me who posted a theorie and ill read tha!
ta everyone
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March 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
OMG i have just seen the book 7 UK! version of the new cover!
There are two options!
- One is a locket with a ‘S’ on it(the slytherine locket)!
- The second is of Harry, Ron and Hermionie surrounded by treasure!?? hum.,……………………..
wat do u lot think?
does this spark off any new theories!??
and the american version is of him in like a area type thing … well look it up on google or somhting there are loads of sites on it .. http://www.mugglenet.com
xx
more therories from tha ^
March 29th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
maybe the tresure is where one of the horcruxes is. maybe the horcrux is even on the cover. i mean, the potion that was in the cave in the HBP was on the front of the american cover so its possible.
March 29th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
im sorry everyone. im always finding problems with ur theories, but to be honest, theyre better than mine…
im all theoried out… i cant think of any more.
hey, I was reading the official web site, and id anyone know that Molly Weasley’s brothers were Gideon and Fabian Prewett?
March 29th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
ok could every1 cut back on the number of times you post please?
i was just looking at the cover and it looks like harry’s in a collesium or sumthing like that…
and Potterfan: thats what i always do; just poke holes in everyone else’s theories and not be able to think of anything…
March 29th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
*did
March 29th, 2007 at 4:38 pm
we make such a pair of people who probably annoy everyone else, don’t we, My Name?
PS The link is http://www.jkrowling.com/
March 29th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
it’s awesome… this is probably where Becca !! x got the information she posted on February 24th, 2007…
check out the rumors section – it rules!
I learned the thing about Mrs. Weasley in the extra stuff section…
March 29th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
PotterFan, the reason I havent been on is cuz I just had a baby, so Ive been pretty busy..Ive been reading everything tho.
Who do you guys think is on Harrys back on the UK cover? And, do you guys think that might be Gryfindor’s sword that whoever it is is carrying? And, where do you think they are?
And, if you look on the left side there is an orb with a snake in it..Do you think it might be the object that Dumbledore used in OOTP when Authur got bitten? The one he picked up and said “an essence divided” and there were the snakes and whatnot…yeah…
And has anyone notice that on the American cover, neither Harry nor Voldemort has a wand? And, it looks like they’re both reaching for something..
Also, where do you think they are? I was thinking of the Department of Mysteries, but it looks like its outside because of the sky..
March 29th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
I think the American cover is pretty cool… it’s pretty unique…
has anyone noticed that the main colors on the American editions of the first, second, third and fourth books’ covers are all basically the same, and they vary, but in the American editions’ covers of the fifth and sixth, there are more dominant colors? (OOTP = blue, HBP = green)
March 29th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
and now the new one is mostly gold/brown…
March 29th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
I agree I think the new one is pretty unique,but it’s not one of my all-time favorites.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
I like the new American one…it seems to sum it all up.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
NEW THEORY:
seeing the covers for the final Harry Potter book has given me a new idea. not so much a theory but it caught your attention and i would like your points of view. well the UK children edition has Harry Ron and Hermione in a ton of gold and jewelry and other things and i think they find all of that in Godric’s Hollow because if you look at the picture, Ron is holding Godric Gryffindor’s sword.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
Rons not holding it…whatever or whoever is on Harry’s back is holding it.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
i dont think ron is look carefully behind harrys left shoulder i think its a house elf ie dobby or kreather(sp)
March 30th, 2007 at 3:29 am
Pugman – it is! Its dobby holding a wand!
Potterfan – The colours i dont think have anything to do with it! The British colours are:
PS – Red
CoS – Blue
PoA – Purple
GoF – Red
OotP – Yellow
HPB – Green
DH – uhh i’l have a look nawwwww ..
March 30th, 2007 at 3:30 am
Black! Its Black
March 30th, 2007 at 6:36 am
has anyone looked at the american version one? What are harry and voldemort holding their hands up at? Like their both trying to do somethin? any ideas
March 30th, 2007 at 6:41 am
who are the people in the backround?
March 30th, 2007 at 6:42 am
I dont know i was thinkin’ that too. It looks kinda weird.
March 30th, 2007 at 6:43 am
Theres no people in the background…..or is there
March 30th, 2007 at 6:47 am
Ohh…I see them now mabe they are the Order or something.It is a possibility they could be DE watching their master take down Harry Potter once and for all
March 30th, 2007 at 6:49 am
Anybody there?
March 30th, 2007 at 7:31 am
if you look at the figure under vodelmorts hand close up its looks almost like snape but i could be wrong and in the uk version it looks as if they are almost being sucked into that doorway they are trying to hold on and there is gold in the air… the elf is try to hold on to harry
March 30th, 2007 at 7:39 am
Ive seen the book cover, if you look closly on the side, at the top, there is something white on it,
In the HBP that is were The Ring is, we think that is a horcrux, so could it be on the 7th book to?
Perhaps that is a horcrux.
March 30th, 2007 at 7:53 am
Ya know that castle on the back what is it?
March 30th, 2007 at 8:29 am
*we KNOW that is a horcrux
March 30th, 2007 at 8:30 am
Mite be hogworts..(?)
March 30th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
yeah, when I read this stuff i thought it was hogwarts too…
PS Harry Potter girl, I was just making an observation (and they were the American covers I was talking about)
also, I was gonna say something else but i forgot what it was
shoot! It was important too!
March 30th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
Lol, You will think of it again soon.
Do you have a website were there are big pics of the covers? I’ve only found 1 of the uk one and it is very small lol
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March 30th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Oh, I’ve only won a pound on a scratch card, Oh well,
Better than nothing, Lol.
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March 30th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
on mugglenet.com there’s a big pic of the American cover, but I haven’t found a big pic of the British cover yet…
March 30th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
if you go to mugglenet.com all the covers are on the homepage and what if on the full cover voldemort and harry are both looking at snape?
March 30th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
that sounds very possible, but I’d like to think it was Wormtail because he has a debt of servitude to both Voldemort and Harry…
March 30th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
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March 30th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
http://www.leakynews.com has all the covers and they are huge…
I think it looks like Harry and Voldemort are both reaching for something…
and, on the UK cover it looks like the 4 of them are falling into the room with the gold..
March 31st, 2007 at 4:53 am
Potterfan – yeah i know tha! u sed mabey the colours had somthing to do with the story or somthing, but y wuld she only do tha for the american ones. She’s British so i anything she wuld eb doing it for the UK versions!
love you all
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i cant get involved with ur american argument over the book cover cause im welsh and well, its all up to u lot. None of you can talk to me abt the UK version (except ni-ni and becca)
March 31st, 2007 at 10:15 am
i know tis is far- fetched and not based on any evidence but when i sqaw the american cover, i immediately pictured a summoning charm. and then i thought what if, in the end, if they dual, harry gets voldemorts wand and voldemort harry’s. would that change prior incantatem since neithe actually performed the previous spells, the other did. never mnd im just rambling and i’ve already seen flaws in the theory but ah well. oh- and the other chosen one- i just finished reading your mcgonnagal theory and you’ve made me read her parts in the book in a whole new light. thanks.
March 31st, 2007 at 12:34 pm
I wonder who the elf is Dobby or Kreacher.
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Lol, sorry, in a little world of my on there.
(cough cough, Luna Lovegood) Lol, No, I’m not taking the mick, I hope Luna doesnt die because I realy like her.
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Hm, I’m not sure, Perhaps Voldemort hasn’t made a 6th horcrux, After all didn’t Dumbledore say that this is all guesswork?
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Well, I for one think Wormtail will help Harry, but I personaly think he will go, Perhaps with imposting Harry with a polyjuice potion? Maybe he wants Voldemort to think he has killed Harry, to let Harry go ahead and find and destroy the remaining peices of soul from Voldemort.
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March 31st, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Oh, I forgot, He (Meaning Voldemort) did say
“I have gone further than any otherâ€
Perhaps this meant he has indeed got all of his planned Horcruxes.
Well, it was, after all, only a little theory, and there seems evidence that he has completed his personal task as to that, Oh well.
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I feel strongly that Harry will not die it will be devastating, but, that’s J.K
For you I guess, As Jordon once very rightly put it. Talks of the devil were is Jordon?
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March 31st, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Sorry, I get very odd when it all comes down to my own theories,
I’ve got to stop that lol, any way, not long till the book comes out, there’s only one way to find out our theories and some of our theories will probably not even make the slightest difference in the book, lol, but really I really shouldn’t be too worked up over my theories, and just so you all know, I don’t give a lot of evidence just too make you believe my theories, I just like too give as much as possible.
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I really think that Professor Snape could be a vampire, who ever said that should congratulate themselves, it is a wonderful theory and most likely to be true, but again, only one way to find out, read the book. But also I think Snape will turn out to be on Harry’s side.
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April 1st, 2007 at 5:01 am
I don’t think Professor Snape is A Death-Eater.
Although he killed Professor Dumbledore, if he was a true Death-Eater,
I’m sure he would have killed Harry too, when he and Draco Malfoy were fleeing.
Because, Harry did catch up with him and Draco, Professor Snape would have killed Harry for all Voldemorts trust, Bellatrix certainly thinks he should have killed Harry. She questions Professor Snape why he has not done this yet in the beginning of HBP.
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As for Professor McGonagall being a Death-Eater, Rubbish,
Ok, many of you probably think Professor Dumbledore was wrong about Professor Snape, but, I also think that is rubbish. None of us know who his true loyalty is to.
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I have just noticed something on the UK book cover, under Hermione’s hand there is a stone that defiantly looks like the philophisers stone, could there be more? But I understand that it could just be a gem, as it is in a bundle of treasure.
Remember this is just a theory.
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April 1st, 2007 at 6:32 am
about the castle on the back of the new cover it doesn’t look like hogwarts ,Hogwarts isn’t a fairy castle it doesn’t look like that
April 1st, 2007 at 6:44 am
Cherise
Voldemort said HE wants to kill harry personally so Snape wouldn’t kill harry anyway
April 1st, 2007 at 7:05 am
Just a lil theory the something of Gryffendoor’s horcrux what if it was hogwarts cause hogwarts would b really hard to destroy he wanted to b DADA teacher cause mabye only DADA magic can find it out so voldy applyed for the DADA job when he got rejected he jinxed the place so no DADA teacher could stay longer than a year or long enough to find out it was a horcrux.
April 1st, 2007 at 8:26 am
fergie-
yes your back.
and what was other chosen one’s theory on McGonnagal?
April 1st, 2007 at 8:28 am
nevermind fergie i found it.
Other Chosen One it’s been so long since i’ve heard one of your theories but finally your back on here again
April 1st, 2007 at 11:36 am
Hm, yes i forgot about that, oh well, like I said, it was just a theory.
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Oh, and about the castle on the back,
perhaps it is the french girls school, what was it called? something like Beubuax? Oh, well you know what one I mean, Fleurs old school.
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But couldnt Professor Snape just put Harry under the imperius curse? oh wait, I forgot, Harry can resist it, Oh well.
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April 1st, 2007 at 11:39 am
No, I dont think Hogworts could be a horcrux,
I dont know what kind of enchantments, but Professor Dumbledore put many enchantments around Horgworts.
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April 1st, 2007 at 1:02 pm
lemme just say, even if he didn’t have his 6th Horcrux yet, he could’ve made it when he murdered Cedric, or Emmeline Vance, or Amelia Bones…
I don’t think you can make a Horcrux out of something that, in the strictest objective sense of reality, doesn’t exist. The job isn’t an object, but we did already know that Voldemort has jinxed it…
PS Cherise I like that theory and it was called Beauxbatons.
April 1st, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Wait a second… In the US it was called the Sorcerer’s Stone, unless my eyes deceive me
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Maybe she renamed it in more recent editions… In any case, now I’m confused…
April 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pm
as for the castle.. i think it’s just Hogwarts because of the trees that are off to the side of it are probably part of the Forbidden Forest
April 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pm
The reason its called the “Sorcerer’s Stone” in the American version is because her publishers changed it…
And, I don’t think Snape is a vampire..We’ve seen him outside during the day plenty of times..And, we saw a vampire at Slughorn’s party, and if she was going to use anything to offset Snapes vampirism, that would have been it..
April 1st, 2007 at 9:26 pm
Thanks Lynah.
WTF?! HAS ANYONE READ MY THEORY?! I spent a very long time on it thank you very much and I would like some feedback. It’s a little bit up but its huge so you can’t miss it. Pleaseeee tell me what you think.
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 am
Oh, poor you “the other chosen one†no one has paid the slightest attention to your theories, well, to be honest I don’t think Professor McGonagall will turn out to be a DE, but your theory is good, people read the other chosen ones theory.
It’s only fair, and something to think about. But I’m not denying it, it is defiantly something to think about, keep going the other chosen one.
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:53 am
*definatly
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:30 am
i did- i mentioned it earlier. i think its great. especially about the start of the first book.
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 am
yeah i agree
April 2nd, 2007 at 4:37 pm
other chosen one—
good theory, it makes some sense and ya never know, thatt could be true… i’m noot sure what i think on that idea and i will tell u guys my reasons soon… maybe in my next post…
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:12 pm
when has harry ever been as out matched in a duel as when he was with snape? Who can hide their true colors from either dumbledore or voldemort? Who is the half blood prince? Snape is one of the most powerful wizards in this book and no one really pays attention to it.. He can make a wolves bane potion to keep lupin from raging around when hes a werewolf.. I think it is certainly possible for him to make a potion to go out in daylight.. There is alot more is think we will learn about snape in the next book.. He is definitely, definitely.. dumbledore’s man.. whether voldemort knows that or not who knows..
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Yeah I personally don’t believe it will happen. I just got bored in Physics and what else was I supposed to do :]
Yeah, Snapes good. Duh.
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:21 pm
Cherise-
Ohh shut up. You try making 10 kickass theories.
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:29 pm
anyone know the origin of the name McGonagall? I just read your theory and its pretty good.. Certainly, believable but i wouldnt be suprised if it didnt happen.. I stand by dumbledore.. I completely trust snape with all certainty .. but if mcgonagall is a death eater than how come no one has seen this is her mind? Dumbledore, Snape?
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:37 pm
In the fifth book the occlumency lessons.. Lupin and Sirius describe them as a very important thing and he must continue.. Then why does snape just drop them completely.. Since harry’s mind was so wide open for the connection between himself and voldemort.. And he was breaking into snapes thoughts and he couldnt stop it? What if he came very closs to coming across information he wasnt supposed to know? What snapes loyalties are? Maybe more things about Lily and James harry shouldnt know yet.. And these are the reasons why dumbledore didnt teach harry himself.. Dumbledore as well as snape has very important information in his head.. dumbledore oviously more things than snape.. This is my main reason for trusting snape..
April 2nd, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Oooh, I just read your theory…I like it. McGonagall with all her talk of mad axe men…
And, of course Snapes good.
April 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pm
i’m not trying to be the peacekeeper, but i really don’t want another one of these sites shut down. so please let’s keep it cool.
other chosen one:
you had a great theory and a lot to back it up but Professor McGonnagol is so warm-hearted that i don’t think it will be her. remember she bought Harry a brand new Nimbus 2000 and went to defend Hagrid in the fifth book when there were ministry officials to take him away. but it was very well made and a great idea. i don’t think it will be her but they might bring someone out like that
Also does anyone else think that Lupin might begin to lose it. he’s been in the underground with a ton of other werewolves and lost quite a few people that were close to him
April 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 pm
Naw, Lupin has Tonks to be his strong hold now..aww ^-^
April 3rd, 2007 at 12:54 pm
The Other Chosen One,
Whats the matter? All I said was that I didn’t agree, I wasn’t being nasty or anything.
Seriously, still not being nasty, but some of you need to controll your tempers, as I have said before, I am NOT going to argue over internet ITS SAD. so will some of you please get a grip, and no one write back replying to me, because all I’m saying is it is getting very silly, and like Lynah, I don’t want this site shutdown, so, no more on the subject, drop it ok?
Thank you,
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Cherise.
April 3rd, 2007 at 3:56 pm
THE OTHER CHOSEN ONE – UR BACK!
AHH
love you all
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:16 pm
You guys keep talking about people being nasty, and I dont see it…
April 3rd, 2007 at 4:48 pm
why does dobby refer to vodermort as the dark lord i thought that only his followers refered to him as that
April 3rd, 2007 at 6:41 pm
The Other Chosen One,
Whats the matter? All I said was that I didn’t agree, I wasn’t being nasty or anything.
Seriously, still not being nasty, but some of you need to controll your tempers, as I have said before, I am NOT going to argue over internet ITS SAD. so will some of you please get a grip, and no one write back replying to me, because all I’m saying is it is getting very silly, and like Lynah, I don’t want this site shutdown, so, no more on the subject, drop it ok?
Thank you,
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Cherise.
COPYCAT!!!!
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Jordan
April 3rd, 2007 at 10:29 pm
hey…its Jordan….
April 4th, 2007 at 4:35 am
lol sorry Jordan, I think it looks better that’s all
hehehe
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April 4th, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Okay first of all, everyone needs 2 relax… maybe step away from the computer and breathe for a few minutes… I haven’t been on in a while, and I really missed a lot.
I don’t know about u, but I wanna learn more about McGonnagall’s family and her history.
April 4th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
sorry, my comment didn’t make sense with the last ones, I skipped over those so that I could talk, but I read them now…
April 4th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Okay, this morning I woke up @ 9:30 AM, fell back asleep, and when I woke up again @ 10:00 (PS I’m on the East Coast in the US) there was some kind of announcement about there being some early release for 1 day only of the new book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got all ready to go to Barnes and Noble to get my copy, but since I was half-asleep @ the time of the commercial, I decided to wait and see if it came on again to see if I had been dreaming/hallucinating. So I have been listening to the radio all day now. Eventually we just called Barnes and Noble to find out, but they said that there wasn’t but we were NOT the first ones to call about it. So either Harry Potter nerds (no offense guys, I’m one too, I admit it and so should you guys) all over NYC had the same exact dream/hallucination as I did or the radio is getting really screwed up.
April 4th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
PS that one day was today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(can you see my haste?)
April 4th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
anyone else have something like this happen to them, or just me?
April 4th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
No, but I did have a bad dream and it realy freaked me out, DONT laugh lol, But my dream was that the 7th book was cancelled! :O :O :O :O :O :O :O
I was nearly in tears! You know, that isnt normal,
Hm, I’m going to try and stay off this site for a while but dont moan at me if I write a replie and not waiting a few days, lol. Well, Hopefuly I will not be seeing you all alot sooner lol
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PS. Welcome back Jordan.
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Cherise.
April 4th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Could someone kindly post a link for the American cover, I havent seen it yet. Oh and Kingsley Shacklebolt is going to kill voldermort and all the death eaters in DH, because he is so freakin cool. Hahaha. I dont have a good theory.
April 4th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Go to http://www.leakynews.com…they have all the covers.
April 5th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Letter Owl – Thank You!
So now you all have seen the covers .. any of them sparking new ideas??
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April 5th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
Uuh right .. Not been on here for ages ..
I tred to look back on the other comments .. But really .. Couldnt be botherd after a while
Although i did see one about snape being a deatheater ..
I thort you had to have the dark mark to become a death eater .. So in the 4th book when voldimort touched one of the darkamk things .. snape would of been there ..
And he wasnt
But maybe since then hes become one
It was .. after all .. 2-3 years previously
April 5th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
ok thats wrong in so many ways. a- he had the mark and we knew since the forth book since karkaroff was comparing his and snapes kind of. plus snape tells narsicca and bellatrix that he returned late…on dumbledores orders in the first chapter of the sixth book
April 5th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Becca:
in the sixth book Snape explains about not being there when Voldemort touched the dark mark. but if you’d like to know more all about Snape read the Chapter called “Spinners End” in the Half-Blood Prince
April 6th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
anyone wanna post anything
April 6th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
In my copy of HBP, i have read it so many times that chapters 2, 3, 4, 5, and 1/2 of 6 have ripped out, and then that chunk split in half, so my entire book is in three pieces.
Just felt like sharing that, you know?
Anyone else have weird stuff happen to their books?
Also, my copy of OOTP is getting close to following that path…
And I feel bad for her dream, that was probably VERY scary
April 6th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
I will also add that anyone who is savvy (savy – saavy – how the hell do you spell that?) knows exactly who R.A.B. is – and so we can put that topic to rest. Spelling errors aside, you guys get what I mean…
What I really wanna know is, I’m positive that Dumbledore is going to make a reappearance, but how? J.K. Rowling confirmed it at http://www.jkrowling.com/ (I think) and I have a thoery about it, which I have actually had for a very, very long time now (and this is probably that thing I forgot that one day, which by the way I still haven’t remembered). The theory is that well, if the portraits in the headmaster’s office can talk, than why wouldn’t Harry be able to communicate with the portrait of Dumbledore in that office? I think that that’s how Harry is going to be able to talk to Dumbledore… If only he could take the portrait off the wall and carry it around with him everywhere he goes while he’s trying to find the other horcruxes. ( I wasn’t serious about that, by the way…)
I am probably, almost definitely not the first person to bring this up on this site, but, well, there it is to think about
April 6th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
On an unrealated topic, though still interesting, did you know that the most common word used when speaking the English language is “I”?
And the longest complete sentence is “Go”…
LOL My friends always call me a know-it-all.
I guess kinda like Hermione, except that I’m not skilled in magic.
April 7th, 2007 at 5:37 am
Ok, Well I never completed my task, I couldn’t resist,
I just had to read comments lol,
Anyways, I couldnt wait to write a comment so I’m going to give up my fasting of this website now lol
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Well, First off, I am strongly confident that Snape will not be a DE, I think at the last minuite he will come out and help Harry, Perhaps he might even help him destroy the horcruxes, I dont know, But I do not think he is a DE, Same as (way up people have suggested) I think Harry is not a horcrux,
I know some one said that he would be wise to as Harry has the whole order guarding him, but, Voldemort didn’t know that when he first tried to kill Harry, and even if he was going to make his horcrux into Harry, Perhaps he had second thoughts of that when he couldnt kill Harry.
Also, If Harry was a horcrux, why is Voldemort trying to kill Harry every single year he has been powerful?
And lastly, You cannot make a horcrux by mistake, I mean, you must notice if your spliting your soul in half, sorry lol, I have been dying to that for ages, but I forgot what I was going to write when I got round to typing my theory, and I knowe I seem like a stuck up cow disagreeing with alot of theories but I am not sorry to have thrown away alot of your suggestions, but I’m not saying they aren’t good, I just don’t agree,
And lets not forget that this site is not for makeing others beleive their theorys, it is to just simply discuss them,
Lol, Thank you
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Cherise xxxxxx
April 7th, 2007 at 5:50 am
PotterFan – if ur like Hermionie, are you a girl ?? i had always thought u as a boy..
hum
x
April 7th, 2007 at 8:54 am
Thanx .. But Ive Read All The Book ..
More Than Once
Not Everones Always Correct ARE THEY ?
April 7th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Yes HArry Potter girl, I am a girl I am so insulted!
LOL not really, I don’t mind…
If you look back to some earlier posts, you will see that I used to be “Andrea” but I changed my name on here a while ago…
PS Cherise, I know how u feel… I always used to poke holes through theories, and mostly they were yours becaus you were one of the few people who is still always thinking of the theories, which is more than can be said for me… Also, I am so sympathetic because of your dream, that must have been REALLY scary.
I had a dream last night that I was in one of the movies, and it was pretty cool, you know, I just got to star and it ruled!
April 7th, 2007 at 11:40 am
We haven’t really talked about the movies at all, but maybe that’s just because we already know what’s gonna happen in that one… or do we? I was watching the movie for GoF last night and I noticed that as each movie goes by, the differ from the books more and more. I was thinking that if I were to remake the movies all by myself, I would create them so that they followed the book’s plot EXACTLY. I would recreate them according to the vision I got when I would read my books… Who cares about how much time it takes up? True fans would line up to see the movie exactly as the book was, to see the book come to life ass it was written (without changes) by the director.
On a similar note, did you guys hear that after OotP Emma Watson doesn’t want to play Hermione anymore? Is she crazy or something? I would kill to play Hermione! Not to mention she makes ten million dollars for every movie… Maybe she just didn’t want to get too cozy with Rupert Grint (who plays Ron for those who didn’t know) ;D
April 7th, 2007 at 12:16 pm
April 7th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
There were discussions about her not playing Hermione in the last movies, but all three of them have already signed contracts. Woo.
April 7th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Hmmm… Its really too bad, but you know, they are all getting really old… like Daniel Radcliffe is already like seventeen, and Rupert Grint is either eighteen or nineteen, I forget which…
How do you guys think that the fifth movie is going to be different from the book?
April 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
I thought Dan was 18?
April 7th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
Sure, something like that…
April 7th, 2007 at 8:45 pm
in that case, Rupert is either nineteen or twenty…
wow…
April 8th, 2007 at 12:10 am
yeah they’re pretty old. i think they should have made some of the movies at the same time so that way the movies would come out sooner and also there wouldn’t be such a dramatic change in the characters. like if you look at dan radcliffe in movies one and two he’s pretty close to looking the same but hten there’s a pretty big difference between 1/2 and movie 3. he grew a lot into movie three
April 8th, 2007 at 8:09 am
Hiya guys, listen just a little tip for those who haven’t yet reserved the 7th book, on QVC they are going to sell signed copies of all books,
But personaly I am going to try and reserve mine.
Potterfan:
Yes I know what you mean, I hate it when you dont see the movie as the book was.
If you see Peeves in any of the movies, could someone please point out what movie and part of it you see him in, I am quite curious to see what he looks like, as I havent spotted him in any of the movies.
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April 8th, 2007 at 10:59 am
Potter Fan – Im am soo sorry .. American ?? Im just making sure… and getting to know you lot. I wanna know who im talking to … no offence ot anyone about this.
x
(and its my bday!)
April 8th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Happy Birthday hun!
wot prezzies did u get?
April 8th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
oooh, Happy Birthday!
And, I dont think they put peeves in any of the movies…he is in the games tho…
Oh, and I like how the kids are growing with the movies..
April 8th, 2007 at 9:14 pm
The only problem with making the movies exactly like the books are that the last five would have to be like two parts. And then by the time their all done harry would be like twenty four years old. And the reason GOF was so much different from the book is because there are so many big scenes and events throughout the whole book and there more worried about the main scenes than the little things we wanna see too. The next two movies will be followed more closely but the 7th is gonna be terrible because there are going to be so many important scenes.
April 8th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
No affense to the UK but the movies being British made makes the less apealing to the american eye. Most things across the Atlantic are alot different. And especially different the way we picture the books. BUt then again the movies do take place in England.
April 9th, 2007 at 9:24 am
has anyone wondered about madam pomfrey? i mean she’s worked at hogwarts for years. maybe she could be the spy. i was thinking about how voldemort knew about the potion that would bring him back to life. we all know madam pomfrey is a very powerful healer. maybe she knew? just me throwing another wild conspiracy theory out.
April 9th, 2007 at 11:40 am
well i was listening to the PotterCast and many people think that the US cover shows Harry and Voldemort on the other side of the viel and all of those shadows around them are other souls. a lot of people also think that the pouch around Harry’s neck is for horcruxes.
on the UK cover people think that harry, ron, and hermione might be somewhere in Gringott’s and it’s either a house-elf or a goblin on Harry’s back.
April 9th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
teah its cool… Happy birthday!
What if you were to animate the movies? They’d be kinda childish, but the actors wouldn’t need to do them all at a similar time…
Hmmmmm…
I love the movies but they don’t do for me what the books do for me
PS Yes I am American (New York)
April 9th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
*yeah
*and happy belated
April 10th, 2007 at 5:57 am
Urgh, I realy hate it when they use different people for the film parts, for example:
Dobby was ment to be the one to give Harry the gillyweed,Winky was ment to be blamed for the Dark Mark,
And plenty others, I dont know why but I just dont like it, what is the point anyway? Lol, sorry, I do get a tiny bit petty, I can’t help it.
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April 10th, 2007 at 10:55 am
I greatly agree Cherise. i hated it when they left out Dobby and Winky in the book. they were supposed to be in the box seats with Mr Crouch. and Neville wasn’t supposed to have anything to do with the gillyweed. it was supposed to be dobby the whole time but moody said in the book all he harry had to do was ask Neville because it was in the book he gave nevill
April 10th, 2007 at 11:06 am
hey everyone..im kinda new on this so yea
been reading some of the theories and stuff posted here, i really like ‘the other chosen one’ ’s stuff, as well as ‘cherise’ ’s stuff..
i totally agree that they should have included dobby and winky especially cuz i really like dobby!lol=]
April 10th, 2007 at 11:09 am
also…im not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but its just a random theory/hunch…is it possible that the shield award thingy that voldemort received while he was at hogwarts is a horcrux?
ive got no evidence whatsoever, just a totally random thought that strayed across my mind..
April 10th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Dobby has a small role in the movies anyway, and he looks nothing like I pictured him, and maybe he wasn’t the most popular character, but he’s still important. I don’t know J.K. Rowling to put in characters for no reason.
At least we’ll see him in OotP movie. They have to put him in. He tells Harry about the Room of Requirement (did I spell that right? Hmmm). You know what, I’ll bet they have it so Fred and George or Sirius tells Harry about the room.
Ugh. Directors.
April 10th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
By the way hplover, I thought of that too a while ago, but honestly, it’s probably not. I wish it was though. That would be kinda cool.
April 10th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
the reason they left dobby out is probably cuz its alot of work to make him, so unless he has a really big role, like in The Chamber of Secrets, its really more practical not to include him.
April 11th, 2007 at 4:19 am
potterfan : yea i doubt it’ll be a horcrux too, it was just a random thought..lol
letteowl : yea i guess ur right about him being a lot of work to make…but i still want him to be in though!lol..
well at least we’re sure that kreacher’s in, although i dont like him that much for what he did! but i guess u cant really blame him 100%..
April 11th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
what dou you think of dobby being a spy. because he calls voldermort the dark lord. and i thought only his followers called him by that
April 11th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
did any body happen to read about the horocrux in order of the phoenix.
April 11th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
i think voldermort took that wand maker to make a wand that would be able to beat harry so that thing in the goblet of fire wouldnt happen again
April 12th, 2007 at 12:33 am
Chris:
-i dont think that dobby is a spy..ive come across this theory before but i think that dobby only calls him the dark lord cuz he used to work for the malfoys, and knowing lucius, he probably ordered dobby to call voldemort the dark lord..and we know that dobby still constantly forgets that he’s no longer bound to the malfoys..
-there was a horcrux in OOTP?
- ur probably right about the wand thing..but i just thought of another possibility..erm u know in that book ‘what will happen in book 7′ published by the mugglenet.com staff? Well they hv a very strong theory that the item from ravenclaw that was made into a horcrux, was a wand..so its possible that voldemort took ollivander for something related to rowena ravenclaw’s wand maybe?
April 12th, 2007 at 4:53 am
A Few comments up someone mentiond Madam P Being a spy ..
I dont think she is ..
If she was, that would mean shes not as sweet as is made out.
She could of poisened harry at any time and got away with it..
Not given him skelligrow..and given him something else.
Even though youd know it was her .. but she could easyly find a way to make out it wasnt.
And someone said somthing about the films being british.
Yes, I know what you mean.
But most the films here in the uk ARE American.
I Still enjoy Watching them.
And I was wondering why the front covers of the books are different in each country..and why ?
Anyone know ?
Becca x
April 12th, 2007 at 11:29 am
Well, I have once said I thought something was up with Dobby, But, Then I thought, If he was, He wouldn’t have warned Harry about the dangers of entering Hogwarts in
COS, So, I don’t think it possible, if he was a DE he wouldn’t have warned him.
And about Madam Promfrey being a Death Eater, I feel is ridiculous, People, I know we are all getting excited about the deathly hollows coming out, and determined to discover what lies within the story, but PLEASE stick to being normal about the theories, I’m not judging your theories, and I’m not saying mine are definitely right, and also I am not saying all yours are wrong, but it is getting quite silly, when, all we are doing is thinking every character apart from the main 3 are Death-Eaters.
Try to think of other things, like:
. Who are the two deaths?
. What are the Horcruxes?
. Where are the Horcruxes?
. Will Harry go back to Hogwarts?
. Will Harry and his friends finally finish off Voldemort?
. Will Harry live?
But I’m not saying forget about the Death-Eater theories, just try to keep realistic.
Becca:
I think that the other countries use different covers for the books because they either disagree with the others, or think it will not give away the story, maybe even because they want to give hints? But I don’t know for sure.
Chris:
It was only his followers and those who think he is right, I think that was mentioned in one of the books, but I don’t think Dobby is neither spy nor Death-Eater.
Hplover:
Thank you for agreeing with my theories!
Sorry for a really long post, and, of I have disagreed with you theories, we all know some arguments have begun over things like that, so before someone is about to have a go, I don’t mean any offence by this post.
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Cherise x
April 12th, 2007 at 11:32 am
Oh, Look! The popularity has gone up to 4!
Sorry, I always point that out! Lol
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Cherise x
April 12th, 2007 at 11:33 am
So, Any more theories?
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Cherise x
April 12th, 2007 at 11:34 am
Lol, Anyone?
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Cherise x
April 12th, 2007 at 11:36 am
Hi all, I’m new here, I was reading up on some theories,
I think Cherise’s are best! : P
Keep going! I want to see more on Proffessor Trelawney!
April 12th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
I Had an idea about Prof.Trelawney having another real prediction.
She seems to have real predictions about things that are quite serious…
So maybe she could have one about where Voldi is ..
Or what a horcrux is and where it could be found.
Or something like who Voldimort kills .. Etc
Just an Idea.
But say she did..Harry would only really know about them if she DID return to Hogwarts.
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And Hi Jane
Becca
April 12th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
And I was looking on the internet at characters.
Trying to look into their background and about their life etc.
Heres a really good link if anyones interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_the_Harry_Potter_books#Other_Hogwarts_professors
April 12th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
I think Dobby calls him the Dark Lord because his old family (the Malfoys) were Death Eaters, so he probably picked up some habits from them.
I think the covers are different in different countries because people in the U.S. might have a different vision of the books than the people from the U.K., so the covers will have different designs for them.
I really wanna know who the other deaths are. Probably a professor and a student. Yes, I had just noticed it went up to 4! Hooray! Okay, back to business.
The other day (before vacation – I just got off Spring Break), I was talking to my friend about Harry Potter stuff, trying really hard to make her understand. I said to her, “Jade, I can’t make you understand this, you have to read the books to get it.” So then, woo, happy, weekend, and then, BAM! On Monday, she comes in halfway through Philosopher’s Stone! She says, “I did what you said. I wanna strt understanding more than half the things you talk about.” And now, she’s almost on Order of the Phoenix. I’m so happy for her!!!!
My point is, I’m gonna give her our link so she can join us, but she’s not ready yet. I’m quizzing her on small details, and she’s gotten only about half of them. When she’s ready, I’ll tell you guys.
April 12th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
sorry for being an echo of Cherise’s voice this time, but I wanna make it known that though I sometimes disagree with you, I do agree with lot you say.
You’re smart, and you have great ideas.
April 13th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Awwwwww! bless! Thankyou!
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April 13th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Urgh! I had a fantastic theory! But I’m so annoyed!
You see, I did the theory on Word first, to see how it looked, but then I forgot it was not saved and I clicked off it! Urgh I hate it when I do that.
Potterfan, Tell your friend I’m ready to welcome her and good luck with keeping up with us all! Lol,
Anyway, part of my theory (it was very long so I wont re-write it yet)
Was that Dobby is not by any chance in connection with Voldemort.
If he was, he wouldn’t have given Harry the warnings in Chamber of Secrets, and let’s face it, he went through a lot when he gave Harry warnings.
And he also helped him in “The Order of the Phoenix” with the Room of Requirement as head quarters for “The DAâ€.
And as Potterfan rightly said, Dobby worked for the Malfoys, he was probably either ordered to referrer to Voldemort as “The Dark Lordâ€, perhaps because he has never known any different.
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About Madam Promfey being a spy, I don’t think so.
People, I know we are all excited about the next book, and we are all determined to discover what lies within the pages of DH, but, try to stick to reality, not everyone is a Death-Eater.
But, by all means, I’m not saying drop your theories, just simply try to think of others rather than traitors.
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Cherise x
April 13th, 2007 at 8:02 am
P.s
By the way, I know some of my, and others, disagreeing to peoples theories have caused the beginings of some arguements, but I assure you, I’m only pointing it out so, please don’t get the wronge idea of me being petty.
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Cherise x
April 13th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Wow, you guys posted alot while I was gone..
The reason the covers are diffrent are because there are diffrent publishers for diffrent countries. If you look at the spanish covers or the french covers or oher countries’ covers alot of them are diffrent.
I don’t think that Dobby is a death eater, but if he were he still might have helped Harry in the second book because he didnt know the background of the diary (Draco didn’t even know about it) and he might have shown him the room of requirements so that he could monitor what was going on..just a thought.
Now, as far as who is going to die, I think Percy will. I don’t know who else tho…I really hope that she doesn’t kill off one twin and leave the other tho, cuz that would just be mean.
Aslo, about Rowena’s wand being a horcrux, there was a theory posted on the site before this one about the wand in Olivander’s window being hers.
April 14th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
I don’t think the twins will go out,
But, Voldemort might try to get them over to “The Dark Side” But I don’t know, One thing for sure is they could be usefull, Ther’re stock is fantastic magic as the ministry of magic have brought alot of they’re stuff.
As for Percy, Voldemort may use him, probably by the imperius curse, as he is very tight with the ministry.
But I dont think Percy will die, although he does get on my nerves.
Ron says (in Philosophers stone) that his family have all been in Gryffindor, I think the Weasly’s may be the heir of Gyffindor. I hope they are. They deserve a bit of honour. And it would show Draco Malfoy up.
Olivander could have been taken for Voldemorts need of Rowena Ravenclaws wand, Or he could just have been on Voldemorts wronge side.
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Cherise x
April 14th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
*They’re
April 14th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
I think Olivander went into hiding…Now, he might have gotten caught afetr, but I think he at least left his shop willingly.
And, I’m pretty sure Harry is Gryfindor’s heir.
April 15th, 2007 at 7:10 am
I had an idea..And yes it probably sucks.
But you know how dumbledore said that ”voldimort has a servent in your debt” or something like that because harry saved him.
Well I think that wormtail might die to save harry.
The same way his mother did. Because i think deep down there might still be some loyalty to harrys father..James.
And voldimort said himself that wormtail came to him out of fright not out of loyalty. So hes not exactly devoted to his master is he ?
And wormtail knows that dying to save someone will leave magical protection. So if he did die..There would be no doubt of saving harry.
At last..For a little while.
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I had another theory a little better.
But I really cant remember it =[
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Becca x
April 15th, 2007 at 9:03 am
the thing that pretty much confirms that wormtail will save harry is the fact that he was in griffindor. what did ron say in the first book. there wasnt a witch or wizard who went bad who wasnt in slytherin.
April 15th, 2007 at 9:35 am
good catch Fergie. that obviously shows that Wormtail is going to do something galient to redeem himself
April 15th, 2007 at 9:37 am
sorry i meant to say “gallant”
April 15th, 2007 at 9:44 am
Personaly, I think Wormtail just goes to whatever side is more powerful, and where he is more likely to survive. I don’t think any part of him is heroic.
But I do think that will be tested.
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I think Snape will only come in at last minuite when Voldemort and Harry duel- probably for the last time
(because Voldemort will die)
But I think he will only arrive to help Harry.
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I wanted (when the first movie came out) for Harry and Hermione to go out, I think maybe they might, as a plot twist.
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As for Draco, I think despite the eachother, Harry and Draco will perhaps team up to finish off Voldemort.
But I am only 50/50 for this, Perhaps Draco might be a true Death-Eater. I dont know.
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HeHeHe Becca now your doing it : P
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Cherise x.
April 15th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
I thought perhaps the wand in Olivanders (on show in the window) Instead of being Ravenclaws it could be Hufflepuffs wand, as it is on a purple pillow.
Is purple hufflepuffs colour?
But I’m now thinking it is Ravenclaws, As Voldemort already has something of Hufflepuffs.
But now I think about it,
April 15th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Voldemort has two things from Slytherin to.
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Cherise x
P.s Sorry about the seperate post, my comps playing up.
April 15th, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Thank you everyone who wished me hBDAY!
lol.. love you all for tha.. aint been on in a while..
Cherise – we know that.. and there is somthing of ravenclaw and griffindor left! lol
x
April 15th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
7 in total
1. Slytherin locket
2. Slytherin uh..?
3. Hufflpuffs cup
4. Somthing of Ravenclaws
5. Somthing of Griffindors
6. Diary
7. ??
Help me fill in the blanks!
April 15th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
…Nagini(sp) whats the other thing from slytherin besides the locket
April 15th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
1-Diary
2-Slytherin’s Locket
3-Slytherin’s Ring
4-Hufflepuff’s Cup
4-Something of Ravenclaw’s?/Ravenclaws Wand?
5-Something of Gryffindor’s?
6-Nagini?
7-Voldemort Himself
I might have forgot something cuz i have that feeling but otherwise i think thats a pretty good list.
April 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I knew i did something wrong i wrote 4 twice. Now i feel stupid heres the real list.
1-Diary
2-Slytherin’s Locket
3-Slytherin’s Ring
4-Hufflepuff’s Cup
5-Something of Ravenclaw’s or Gryffindor’s?/Ravenclaw’s Wand?
6-Nagini?
7-Voldemort Himself
April 16th, 2007 at 1:04 pm
As voldimort became immortal due to his horcruxes..
It would be no problem to have part of his soul..In him.
But as for nagini ?
Hes had her a long time..
Shes probly only got about 8ish years left in her ?
I dont know anything about snaked..But I know they dont live long.
So if she died ?
But coming to think about it .. If she dies.. Voldimort would have no trouble Making a new one would he ?
So Im a bit .. 50/50 On that one
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I was thinking .. You know griffindors sword ?
What use to him was a sword ?
So maybe each of the houses had something like that
Just for the sake of it ?
I might be wrong .. But i doubt they ever had sword fights .. I thaught all they did was duel to fight ?
So maybe theres something like hufflepuffs sheild
I know how pathetic that sounds..
But it sort of makes sence
Becca x
April 16th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Sorry for the long-ish post bdw
April 16th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
lol.. well they what we have so far are jewls (kinda)
April 16th, 2007 at 1:30 pm
lockt.. cup… i mean
April 16th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
so okia..
a book
a locket
a cup
a animal?
do any of these have any connections to give us more clues waht the rest are.
I think the things off ppl of the houses. (If that makes sense) are treasure type things.. which could be somthing to do with the British cover!
hum…
April 16th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Yes..Because a cow DRIFTING down a river of rings just springs into mind
Only messin beth xx
Funny Mood ..
April 16th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Ok … humm
well at least im trying to get ideas going!
lol.. anyone??
okai then becca any of that spark any throies?
x
April 16th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
All i can think of is cows ..
April 16th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Lmao .. xx
April 16th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
I think that Neivel will help harry get some horcruxes.
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Cherise x
April 16th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
i was thinking, voldemort knew the diary was destroyed. how do we know he didnt make another horcrux to make it up (so he thought) to seven?
April 16th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I think ..
All he needed to do was make 7 horcruxes
Not keep them ?
Might be wrong
April 17th, 2007 at 9:57 am
But .. as i was saying before..
Harry could of acidently put harry as one.. killed his parents then put a bit of him in to harry!
8 which is not as strong as 7! so thas y he culd be weaker than he was… i knwo he was trying to re- waht eva but..
i think harry is
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April 17th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
I dont think Harry is
April 17th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Thats kool .. at least TWO people die
soo say harry destroys 5 of voldis horcruxes
and theres one left…
Say its harry
Then harrys dead yeah
and then voldis immortal
soo like nivvile or wormtail kill him
and then thers 2 deaths .. Well done beth
April 17th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
although..you had to do the spell thing to trasfer part of your SOUL into horcruxes
Dumbledor said himself he transferd POWERS
hmmm ?
April 17th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
yeah
..
Destroyed :
1. Diary
Known:
2. Locket
3. Cup
4. Ring
5. Nangini
Unknown
6: Somthing pf Griffindor
7: Somthing of Ravenclaws
Guess:
8. HARRY (if he is)
April 17th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
# Becca Says:
April 17th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
although..you had to do the spell thing to trasfer part of your SOUL into horcruxes
Dumbledor said himself he transferd POWERS
hmmm ?
Well doesnt harry have some powers?
eg. Parceltounge?
April 17th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
wat ?
April 17th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
I must say, I realy dont think Harry is a horcrux.
And as for me I think the two deaths wil be Malfoy and Snape.
Because, Snape made the unbrakeable vow with Narcissa,
To ALWAYS protect Draco.
So as we all know Voldemort doesnt forgive easily, and he set Draco the task of killing Dumbledore, so he might try to kill Draco, If he does Snape does to.
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Cherise x
April 17th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
meh, I think at least one openly good person will die.
April 17th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
hplover
there was a horocrux in order of a phoenix. they were cleaning sirius house and they came across a locket that they could not open and was old. through they threw it away. jk rowling said there was a horocrux in one of the books so i think it was the locket that harry and dumberdore got out of the cave
April 17th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
God I hope Percy dies he’s a jerk now. I was rereading OotP and he said a whole lot of really mean things.
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Anyway, we all know what the horcruxes are -
1) the locket
2) the diary
3) the ring
4) the snake (nagini)
5) the cup
6) something of gryffindor’s/ ravenclaw’s (probably ravenclaws)
We don’t know what the last thing is yet, and I don’t know about you guys, but I am NOT one to jump to hasty conclusions. Where on Earth did we get the idea of the wand from? It’s a good idea, but it seems a little off to me.
Now, J.K. said something about someone non-magical doing magic late in life under desperate circumstances. She also said that it was not Aunt Petunia. I’m tempted to say that it was Mrs. Figg. Anyone agree? She IS old, and she IS a squib…
Comments plz.
April 17th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
I am PotterFan’s sister, FYI… This is probably going to be my only post. In the first book (PS), it was cool when we could learn how Harry got all his stuff (like his wand, Hedwig, his cauldron, and how he saw the goblins [in Gringotts]). Now his powers could get stronger.
April 17th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Now, she is 8 years old, and even though that had almost nothing to do with the seventh book, keep in mind, she’s 8, and she’s my sister. No theory-bashing this time.
April 17th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
maybe Dudley will show some magic stuff i think Dudley is a fag but it would proabably shock alot of ppl
April 17th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Yeah, I think its Dudley. Im pretty sure JKR said something about it not being a squib who does the magic.
And, Fawkes, I agree…its just so sad that they had to butcher that part in the movie.
April 18th, 2007 at 11:19 am
Awwwwww! Bless! Fawkes, I agree with you hun!
Potterfan let her come on more please she is adorable!
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Cherise x
April 18th, 2007 at 12:21 pm
yea i definitely dont think that harry is a horcrux…cuz i dont think it’s possible to ‘accidentally’ perform a really complicated horcrux spell…cuz it wudnt hv been possible for voldemort to not knowingly perform a really complicated spell, even if he has done it many times before…cuz we know that if harry was a horcrux, voldemort definitely didnt know that he was cuz then he wudnt have been trying to kill him off in all the previous books..
i agree that probably dudley will do magic…im hoping that it’s mrs figg but jkr said that it’s not a squib(i think she said that) so i doubt it’ll be mrs figg..
i wonder what it is about petunia that made jkr say : there is more to petunia than meets the eye…wonder what she knows so much about…maybe she knows of 1 of the horcruxes?nah that’s a crap theory…just brainstorming here..lol…desperately trying to come up with stuff, gosh i really cant wait for the 7th book! i literally look up mugglenet.com everyday to check for any updates and possible clues…sigh guess im obsessed!lol=]
chris
oh yes that horcrux…yea there’s a very strong possibility that that locket is the slytherin one right, the one stolen from the cave by RAB(most prob regulus black)…i think that locket is either still at grimmauld place most probably in kreacher’s ‘lair’, or maybe mundungus sold it to someone by accident not knowing its importance…
well at least now we’re most definitely sure that the locket is a horcrux cuz if not i dont think it would be on the cover, especially if its the only thing on the cover(UK adult)..
btw, where does everyone think the setting of the US cover is?;)
i think its the room with the veil in the department of mysteries..
not that sure though…
XOXOXO
April 18th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
sorry for that awfully long post that probably made no sense!xxx
April 18th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
Lol.. okia im the only one who thinks he is then! HUm oh well .. ONE gurd person will die one bad i think… And I agree that Dudly is the squib! Me nad my m8s worked that out ages ago..
It was so funny
we were all trying to work things out! We tried to figure out who RAB was on the back on Ni-Ni’s trampoline and we even got Oop out to look at the Balck Family tree! LMoa.. soo funny… wa abt this and tha
lol
soriii ab tha .. jsut letting u know
x
bubix .
April 18th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Ppl … try not to make em too long.. no one reads em en!
April 18th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
I read them.Id rather see a person make one long post then 50 tiny ones.
April 18th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
I know but .. oh no one listens to me anyways!
April 18th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
ok i have two decent reason why harry is a horcrux. First in side everyone there is a soul and each is different and thats what makes them unique. If Voldemort transfered some of his powers then that would explain why harry has the same powers that voldemort has. And second why would there be the connection between them where they can both see into each others minds without harry having a piece of voldemorts soul inside him?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:09 am
THANK YOU!
i agrree! .. x
April 19th, 2007 at 10:45 am
that could be backed up by jk always saying she revealed too much in book 2. did anyone notice that when harry said hes back (voldemort) in book 5, petunia instictively grabbed dudly. this made me think was it a motherly instinct, or something more? maybe there is a connection between dudly and voldemort …somehow.
April 19th, 2007 at 11:20 am
Maybe voldimort threatend to hurt dudley for something ?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
Mabey .. hum
U knwo the howler Dumbeldore sent Patunia..
What did he mean .. im confused?!
plz help me pplz!
April 19th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
I hope its the room behind the veil, because I’m starting to think that the veil was like the portal to the afterlife or something, because it was inside the Death Chamber.
Hmmm, I still don’t think Harry is a horcrux but I do wonder why Harry can see into Voldy’s mind and vice versa.
Now I think that Dudley and Voldy have a connection but I wouldn’t be able to tell you what it is to save my life…
And Dumbledore was reminding Petunia about what he said in the letter he left with Harry in the first book (they mention it in the first chapter of the first book). The letter explained about the blood ties and how she could protect him by keeping him.
PS Everyone knows that RAB is Regulus – not only do the initials fit (probably) but when the Weasleys + Harry + Hermione were cleaning out the drawing room in 12 Grimmauld Place, they threw away “a heavy locket thet none of them could open.”
April 19th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Anything to add, anyone?
April 19th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
If Dumbledore ment his first letter then why was Vernon confused? I think Dumbledore and Petunia have been keeping in touch.
April 20th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
okay, but the letter wasn’t addressed to vernon, and maybe petunia didn’t think it was neccessary to share it with vernon.
Lemme say a little about Fawkes, my sister – she has only read the first four books, and i dont think she actually remembers any details – she had to ask me what the name of the thing you make potions in was…
you know… A cauldron, maybe?
but ill still let her come on sometimes, if she wants to add something.
April 20th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
but maybe they have been kepping in touch, but J.K. probably would have mentioned something along those lines. she probably would have slipped in a hint somewhere.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:48 am
regarding the fact that harry and voldemort can see into each other’s minds, remember i think dumbledore mentioned something like cuz the scar created a sort of portal between their two minds, so both could visit each other’s minds….
oh and i sort of have proof that harry cant be a horcrux:
well remember in SS/PS, quirell couldn’t touch harry because he was possessed by something totally evil, ie voldemort…and i think even harry couldnt bear it when quirell touched him…it didnt physically hurt harry on the outside, but i think his head was throbbing so much that it was obscuring his vision…so harry couldnt have possibly survived having voldemort’s soul in him, he would have been feeling so much of pain…
and even though voldemort took harry’s blood in GoF, that was only when harry was 14 i think..and if he was a horcrux, he would have been a horcrux even before that, so he couldnt have beared to have something so evil and filthy inside him..it wouldve killed him!lol;)
April 21st, 2007 at 10:50 am
letteowl :
thanks!=]
good that someone likes reading my looooooong posts!;)
April 21st, 2007 at 2:02 pm
voldemort has harrys blood in him and it doesnt destroy him and the reason they have the connectino between them can only be explained by harry having a piece of voldemorts soul.
April 21st, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Ooooh I just thaught..
Say harry pushed voldimort through that veil#
Then hed be able to see into his mind
And find out about sirius
And where he was
April 21st, 2007 at 5:15 pm
then maybe even dumbledore and his parents if the viel is the viel to the afterlife. i dont personally think thats likely though.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:21 pm
guys what if Lilly was a Seer
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:15 am
i like that idea never really thought of it..and ive read stuff in a lot of forums and never read that ..i like it
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:31 am
noob :
yes voldemort did take harry’s blood, but that was only when harry was 14 i think..
but if harry WAS a horcrux, he would have been a horcrux way before that, way before voldemort took his blood…
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:31 am
oh btw, itll be really cool if lily was a seer!!=]
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 am
also right, what do u guys think about snape making an unbreakable vow with either lily or dumbledore, and if it was with lily then maybe dumbledore knew about it…
cuz that would explain why dumbledore trusts snape so much right..;)
it made more sense in my head!haha…
tell me what u guys think k…=]
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:12 pm
more on Lilly being a seer if she was maybe she saw that she made Petigrew the secret keeper and she and James were killed by Voldemort and she saw deeper into the future that Haryy killed/destroyed Voldemort so Sirus or Dumbldore couldnt be the secret keeper b/c if she made them the secret keeper the future would of changed maybe Nevile whould of been the chosen one also im curious why Dmbdore had James invisabiltiy cloak
April 23rd, 2007 at 9:45 am
hplove
if a piece of his soul cant survive in harry than how can voldemort survive with harry’s blood?
April 23rd, 2007 at 5:59 pm
http://bookclubs.barnesandnoble.com/bn/board/message?board.id=HarryPotter&message.id=1207&jump=true
Good theory on Harry Being a horcrux.
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Fresh idea
What if since harry is a horcrux thats why he see’s through voldemort’s perspective in dreams and through nagini’s eyes also. Because then Nagini would be a horcrux as well.
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Then the whole haveing VOldemorts emotions from time to time and all the freams and connection and voldemort being able to sort or possess harry all adds up to harry being a horcrux. Its inevitable he has to be a horcrux.
April 24th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
potterfan – we all knwo that!
We disscused y we thought Regulus was RAB.
lol..x
April 24th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
and noob thats not realyl a fresh idea. its been floating around since horcruxes were revealed in HBP
April 25th, 2007 at 7:54 am
ya but it especially explains that he is a horcrux and ive never anyone give that reason on any forum before
April 25th, 2007 at 10:01 am
I’ve just seen a BRAND new triler for harry potter and the OotP and they have REALLY mucked it up. There was Voldermort at the Train Station in a suit! And loads of wrong stuff..
ill c if i can find it for you!
x
April 25th, 2007 at 10:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0pY_UL4Hoc
ignore the last bit of piccs
April 25th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
harry potter girl
yea i know i saw that trailer too…saw it on mugglenet.com….i dunno why on earth voldemort is at the train station! there’s no such thing in the book right…sigh..but i did like the umbridge bits…
noob
lol i sadly dont know how to contradict you that harry isnt a horcrux!;)heheh…oh well 86 more days and then we’ll find out whether harry is a horcrux or not…but im still convinced that he isnt…though i have a funny weird feeling that his scar may be a horcrux?????
yes i know it probably sounds rubbish but its a possibility i guess=]
xoxoxo
April 25th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
HPlover – i know hum .. oh well .. but they did umbridge soo well!…
hplover.. i think SOMTHING to do with harry is a horocrux (wat eva) lol
the rest of you check the vid out!
April 25th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Voldemort isn’t really at the station, it is Harry’s mind playing tricks on him because i don’t think that Voldemort would where a suit and tie.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
well at least i think it’s his mind playing tricks on him. but yes they did do a great job on Umbridge.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Ya that trailor makes the movie look really good. But i also think that this movie will be alot better compared to the book than the fourth and more closely followed like the first three seeing as there are but there arent as many big scenes.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
and ya i agree voldemort in the suit is something to do with harry imagining it
April 26th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Probz.
okia i agree with you lot!
x
April 26th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
I think the movie looks pretty good.
And, I think the pinky toe on Harry’s right foot is a horcrux. Th whole scar thing is just red herring. Yup.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:32 am
haha his pinky toe??
that’ll be really funny though!
wonder if harry will find a horcrux in godric’s hollow when he goes there…..mhmmmmm….
anyone here listens to mugglecast?its been ages since their last podcast=[
xoxoxo
April 27th, 2007 at 2:40 pm
April 27th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
http://joindumbledoresarmy.warnerbros.com/
April 27th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Oh.. kwl …
Im a meber. look up (if u can) HP Girl. Lol.
Have any of you got bebo?
We should like all get a page and make a chat room thing or a band or somthing.
April 28th, 2007 at 8:00 am
If the locket was in the Blacks house how did it end back in the cave?
I’m a little confused because I cant see how it was in the Blacks then it was back at the cave?
Help please.
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Cherise x
April 28th, 2007 at 10:28 am
it was never the real locket in the cave. it was a fake.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
I’m confused, if the locket was fake, was the locket in the Blacks house the real one?
And if it was the same one, who put it back in the cave? Why bover?
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Cherise x
April 29th, 2007 at 7:19 am
It was put there by voldi to keep it safe. But somone (Regulus) took it and put the fake one there and took it back to the Blacks house.. OKIA?
April 29th, 2007 at 9:15 am
oh!
But, So does that mean the real one isnt destroyed yet?
sorry about this lol
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April 29th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
6%
April 29th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
cherise
yea i think the real one isnt destroyed yet..
its either the real one has already been destroyed, or that the locket they found in grimmauld place in OOTP is the same locket-horcrux..
but i think cuz well on the UK adult cover of DH its the slytherin locket, so im pretty sure that it isnt destroyed yet…lol
ok i prob didnt make sense up there!haha lol
April 30th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Oh yeah! 6% ha-ha
Anyway, Now I get it, Sorry I did get a little bit dumb there!
Well, on the other cover, were Harry, Ron, and Hermione are in a bundle of treasure, do you think that could be IN the locket?
Hm, No I don’t think it is very likely, just a thought,
It just popped into my head, lol.
Anyways, I think something to do with Sirius will pop up.
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Cherise x
April 30th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
cherise
do u mean that harry, ron, and hermione are in the locket???
lol sorry im a lil blur now! where i am its 12.32am…hahah…uk btw
yea i agree with u about sirius.. if im not mistaken, i think jkr also confirmed that sometime..i think..
xoxoxo
May 1st, 2007 at 5:19 pm
i want to say 2 things on Dumbledore’s “death” 1 maybe hell be a ghost. 2 when JK said he wont do a Gandlaf well Gandalf never died so yea maybe Dumbledore found a way around death after Dumbeldore is the most powerful wizard of all time
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Yeah
I ment They could be in a locket
But I’m still not fully convinced, it just looks like it.
I don’t think Dumbledor will come back as a ghost,
In OOTP Nearly Headless Nick says, He is only a ghost because he was afraid of Death, And in PS Dumbledore says Death is only the next great adventure.
But I do think he can or could find a way around it.
For Harry’s sake.
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Cherise x
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:06 pm
mhmmm…not too sure about the locket theory…im not too sure that they’re actually in a locket…no offence but in my opinion it’s kinda highly unlikely…lol
about dumbledore, i think that he can still give advice to harry through his portrait…and personally, i think that jkr killed dumbledore off to make way for snape…i think snape is gonna be extremely vital to harry’s search for horcruxes and also in his final plan to kill voldemort…cuz i think snape knows hell of a lot about stuff..so with dumbledore still alive, it’s impossible for snape to show his full potential cuz dumbledore was always the main man in everything..but u see, whenever dumbledore was in danger and couldnt handle anything, it was always snape who helped him…snape helped him when he got cursed by the ring, snape cures malfoy when harry used sectumsempra(forgot the spelling!) against him…and even after he drank the potion at the end of HBP and was already extremely weak and on the verge of death, he wanted snape, not madam pomfrey, not prof mcgonagall, but snape…so i think snape is very smart, and we’re only gonna see his full potential in DH…and besides, jkr has said millions of times that snape used to be very drawn to the dark arts, therefore it is safe to say that snape probably knew a fair bit abt voldemort’s horcruxes..and also, he would possibly be the ONLY one who would know how to get around voldemort’s protections for his horcruxes, cuz he is a very great and strong wizard(not physically but mentally and emotionally)..snape is at the moment either fooling dumbledore or foolin voldemort, but either way, he is still fooling someone very powerful..and it takes an equally powerful or more powerful person to be able to do that…
xoxoxo
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:07 pm
wow! didnt realise it was so long…oops…
oh and btw, im a ’snape is good’ fan…;)
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:24 pm
Oh my god I must’ve been gone a VERY long time. Yes, the wormtail thing might be true but it won’t be a protection for harry because voldy already has wormtails blood in him, cuz wormtail gave voldi half his right arm, remember…. I did not read all the comments after that yet, because I really needed to respond to that. I need to never get grounded again, because I don’t have all day to catch up on you guys’ theories…
PS The other day, I had the same idea, that harry was gryffindors heir.
Hey our popularity is at six!
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:52 pm
WTF?! Why does the blood have anything to do with it???????? IF IT WAS THE BLOOD THEN WHY WOULD IT AFFECT ONLY THE SCAR?????? I think it was the curse and the scar. Goddammit, Dumbledore explains a lot in the first book, in chapter one, and chapter seventeen…. So you people need to read more carefully when it comes to anything Dumbledore says. No joke, im getting tired of quoting him left and right for these theories you guys seem to be pulling out of your asses.
oh BTW thank you for finally picking up on the locket being in the Black’s house, because I know for a fact I mentioned it twice and no one listened to me. But then again, no one listens to me in real life anyway. So why should I care?
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:54 pm
BTW I am also sorry for losing my temper about old material, but you need to understand how frustratig this stuff can be. And I am SERIOUS about you guys reading more carefully EVERY TIME DUMBLEDORE TALKS. HE USUALLY HAS IMPORTANT THINGS TO SAY – STUFF THAT EXPLAINS A LOT.
PS I am turning 13 on Monday!!! Yay!!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:56 pm
And I also like the theory that Lily might have been a seer, and I don’t know where it came from and it was a long time ago but it was interesting. I have never heard anything like that one before!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:57 pm
I have a very short temper these days because I have to start really thinkong about NYC high schools.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 pm
*thinking
and I’m also sorry I made a million posts in a row.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:53 pm
i believe i was the one who came up w/ Lily being a seer the only reason i thought of it was b/c of Tonks i think asked Harry of he had any seer blood in him
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:32 am
Erm, Potterfan, We did listen, we just did not have any coments on the theory, We do listen you know.
And please control your temper, It is frustrating for us when people have bad tempers every now and then.
So please people, try to keep it casual,
Hplover, Like I said, it was just a little theory.
I don’t mind if anyone disagrees.
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Cherise x
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Who ever sed they are a snape-fan well i am to ..
i totally agree!
U all have similar names like Hplover and waterver. .
lol
x..
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Are you Americans?
I need to knwo cause i want to knwo which covers ur gettig. . im soo sorii
x
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:19 pm
haha harry potter girl, no im actually originally malaysian but now ive moved to uk..and u are?
oh n btw, i came up wiv hplover cuz i just cudnt think of what other name to write, cuz i didnt really wanna gv my real name…lol
potterfan, pls dont lose ur temper like that cuz we’re all just trying to write every theory that we can think of, just sharing everyone with everyone..
xoxoxo
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Im American..
Snapes good
And, people on here have been talking about the locket at the Blacks’ house being a horcrux for a loooong time.
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:03 pm
made a typo in my previous post…meant to say :
just sharing everything with everyone
xoxoxo
May 4th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
I think Harry will get Helga Hufflepuff’s Cup in Bourgin and Burkes, as the lady who owned them said he would love to have it back.
Perhaps?
Not sure
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May 5th, 2007 at 11:21 am
Welsh chick
!
xCherise- uh .. not sure abt tha..
May 5th, 2007 at 9:50 pm
United Statesian
May 6th, 2007 at 5:46 am
we’re now on 7%. yay. lol.
May 6th, 2007 at 10:20 am
OMG i didnt get tha until just naw..
7% so many ppl write on here it should be atleast like 99% lol.
ha
x
May 6th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
great 7%!
harry potter girl, so i guess we dont live that far away!;)…im from london…=]
i have a small hunch that maybe zachariah SMITH somehow indirectly has helga hufflecup’s cup, u know cuz of the hepzibah SMITH thing…
not really sure though…
xoxoxo
May 7th, 2007 at 5:24 am
Hm, I dont know,
Perhaps, but I cant realy see it being him,
I dont know, but he does seem very satisfied with him self doesnt he.
Maye but i think it is a bit out there.
Good job though.
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May 7th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Voldemort took the up..so, its probably hidden like the locket was..well, the fake locket that is..
May 7th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
http://lr2.com/archives/2007/05/07/harry-potter-and-the-photoshopped-jailbait/
May 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
yea voldemort did take the cup but maybe it got somehow returned to the rightful family with the correct bloodline?
cuz well the locket did get jacked so maybe someone took the cup too?yea seems kinda unlikely i guess but well cuz to me that just seems like the perfect reason to actually introduce the character of zachariah smith in OOTP, or least i think it was in OOTP…cuz jkr made it so clear that they all kinda hated him right, so maybe harry needs zach’s help somehow?just sorta an ironic twist i guess;)
xoxoxo
May 7th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
the more frequent we write on here the quicker it will get higher
May 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
yeah yeah i know. we have all been over this before and I feel like i just MIGHT have apologized for losing my temper once or twice…
oh and by the way, i hope you guys were paying close attention when I said the thing about LISTENING WHEN DUMBLEDORE TALKS. if i have to quote him again to remind you guys of stuff i might just get into another temper…
this is just getting a little frustrating
May 8th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
on a happier note, I turned 13 yesterday (hooray!) i don’t feel any different.
and the seer theory was good, so all smiles now. i think they used that in the third movie… harry saw sirius in the crystal ball he returned to trelawney right before she made that prophecy.
hey guess what… I got these two really good books for my birthday. One was called “The Great Snape Debate.” It’s by Amy Berner, Orson Scott Card, and Joyce Millman. It’s cool, and it’s a flip book, so you can read about how Snape is innocent and then flip to the back cover and read about how he’s guilty. It’sa Borders book, so go to Borders and pick it up if you wanna read it. The other one is called “The End of Harry Potter?” I stayed up until three in the morning reading, it was AMAZING. It’s by David Langford, and it’s published by Tor Books. I reccomend that one. It highlights all the stuff we have talked about here and adds stuff we didn’t think of. Get them for me, okay?
May 9th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
Potter fan – im 13 too .. no one here is like 20-30 are they ..
cause i thought we were all kids..
sorii ive gtg naw.. so i cant exactly say wat i want to say abt hp..
well trax
May 9th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Im 19…almost 20…god I feel old.
I wanted to get The Great Snape Debate, but Im pretty broke right now. I have a book called The Science of Harry Potter, and its pretty interesting tho.
May 10th, 2007 at 9:30 am
wow…im 16=]..well in august…
i have the ‘what will happen in book 7′ by mugglenet.com…anyone else has that??
xoxoxo
May 10th, 2007 at 11:26 am
no :O
May 10th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
well i recommend that book (’what will happen in book 7) by the mugglenet.com ppl cuz it explains a lot, and gives lots of new ideas…and it kinda looks at both sides of the argument…so its kind of really refreshing to read…so, if u get the chance, make sure u buy it;)
xoxoxo
May 10th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
im from NYC all american baby! so yeah, I was thinking earlier today: what if Luna Lovegood is a seer? I don’t know, I have no evidence, but she just seems the type to me. At least, more so than Trelawney. She gets all the supernatural stuff, she was the one who explained the whispering of the people they had lost behind the veil, so you know, I just thought…
I reccomend both those books I mentioned before. I really liked the Snape one, but it was kinda weird. it didn’t convince me that he’s good, but i thought that because it kept saying that it was all dumbledore’s fault for not realizing when I read the guilty side, it wasn’t really right either way. So now I have absolutely NO ideas on Snape’s true loyalties.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
I got sunburnt today at Yankee stadium. irrelevant, but I just had to vent some frustration.
BTW by “they,” I meant Luna and Harry.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
on the other hand, after reading that book, I am convinced that Snape was in love with Lily. You have to read that evidence. It is SO cool. Maybe I could type it on here if i get the time.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
im 15 and i think you should type that stuff up so we have something to talk about
May 11th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
I concure
May 15th, 2007 at 11:08 am
people, 8%!!!;)
xoxoxo
May 15th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
i wonder was dumbledore ever in love with someone. i mean, he’s always preaching on about love and all that and i just thought, what about him. i know its hard to picture though it might be possible.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:04 am
I think he must have been in love, love is, after all, what he is all about. Madamme Pomfrey comes to mind, because they have pet names for each other.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:06 am
I think that fawkes is dumbledores horcrux because they have that link between them. Fawkes seems to respond to dumbledores strong feelings, example:
book six, page 334
‘he accused me of being dumbledores man thru and thru”
‘how very rude of him’
‘I told him i was’
Dumbledore opened his mouth to speak and the closed it again. behind harry fawkes the pheonix let out a low, soft, musical cry. to harry’s intense embarrassment, he suddenly realised that dumbledore’s bright blue eyes looked rather watery…
the fact that simply being loyal to dumbledore will summon fawkes makes sense, seems to fit.
Another point, maybe this is how dumbledore is so sure snape is loyal to him, he was able to summon fawkes?
I think these books reflect JK’s feelings after the loss of her own mother. I heard somewhere that she wrote them to help deal with the fear of death, and help kids face the concept of death. I remember as a kid the desire to never die, to somehow discover a way to live forever, which probaly occurs to most kids at some stage. I think JK wants to sway kids away from this. This is why dumbledore, the good guy, is not scared of death (it is just lifes next big adventure). Voldemort, the bad guy, is very scared of death, as we know… Because the books were wrote to help kids deal with mortality, i think harry will die.
another thought I would like to add, altho completely unreleated:
Dumbledore says that gryffindors sword is the last known relic of godric gryffindor, but we know that the sorting hat was Godrics hat.
May 16th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
you guys of course have realized that Fawkes is the same to Dumbledore as Nagini is to Voldemort. Cool, right?
Did you guys also know that J.K. Rowling’s birthday is July 31st and that’s where she got the inspiration for Harry’s birthday. Small world.
May 16th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
okay okay, ill type it in.
May 16th, 2007 at 5:00 pm
wtf happened to the site its so weird
May 16th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
To quote directly (starting on page 11)
The Lily Potter Factor
Throughout the series, Snape never insults Lily, although he’s always trashing James. Snape never even insults Lily by association, as in “your parents were obnoxious”-it is always just “your father.” We can sefely conclude that Snape hated James, but there is no evidence that he hated Lily.
In Half-Blood Prince, we learn that Lily excelled at Potions. Professor Slughorn tells Harry that she was the best student he’d ever seen, that she had an “instinctive” grasp of the subject (319). Slughorn also mentions that that he taught Snape in Potions and that he was no slouch, either. Given this information, it’s possible that, despite being in different Houses, and despite Snape being very much the outcastand Lily the popular girl, Snape and Lily formed some kind of bond over their mutual talent for potion-making. This doesn’t mean they were boyfriend-and-girlfriend (although Snape, like so many other boys in their class, might have had a crush on her), but, simply, friends. (And how many female friends do you think the socially awkward
“Snivellus” had in high school? Lily could have been the only one.) There is even some possible evidence in Half-Blood Prince that the spells scrawled in the margins of Snape’s old Potions textbook could have been collaborations with Lily, or Lily’s alone. Hermione thinks the Half-Blood Prince’s handwriting looks like a girl’s, and there are similarities between thew the bezoar instructions in the margins of the textbook, Lily’s maverick use of the bezoar (as recounted by Slighorn), and what Snape teaches the class about the bezoar back in Sorcerer’s Stone.
But what about the “Snape’s Worst Memory” chapter of Order of the Phoenix, in which Harry sees Snape’s teenage memory of being humiliated and bullied by James? James has Snape hanging upside down with his underpants exposed, and Lily comes along and tells him to leave Snape alone. When James does let Snape down, Snape says he doesn’t need help from a “Mudblood” like Lily (and she gets mad at him and makes a rude remark about the dingy state of his drawers) (648). Some have taken this as an indication that Snape hated Lily. But thaink about what’s going on in this scene and you’ll see that it’s a very credible depiction of typical adolescent behavior: teh bullying, the boys showing off for the popular girl, the popular girl not wanting to seem too friendly with the school weirdo, the mercurial emotions of teenagers. There’s a believable tension between Snape and Lily in this scene as well. She rescues him (posssibly because of their secret friendship); he is embarrassed about being rescued by a girl, especially someone he probably has a little crush on. Not to mention, she saw his underpants. Under these circumstances, we should not take Snape’s
“Mudblood” epithet as any reliable indication that he hates Lily. Nor should we take Lily’s defensive mocking of his underpants as an indication that she hates Snape. Just look at the way the angry Lily and the teasing James spar with each other during the same Pensieve scene (and the way Ron and Hermione bicker throughout the series); it’s only human to protect vulnerable feelings behinf the appearance of their opposie.
Speaking of underpants… James uses a nonverbal Levicorpus spell to hang Snape upside down. In the Half-Blood Prince’s Potions textbook, Harry finds handwritten instructions for a nonverbal Levicorpus spell. If Lily and Snape were friends, they might have been experimenting with spells together or sharing their discoveries. And the added tension between Lily and Snape in the Pensieve scene could come from the fact that Snape believed Lily had taught James the nonverbal Levicorpus spell-their spell. Snape all but confirms this scenario at the climax of Half-Blood Prince, when Harry attempts to use the Levicorpus spell on Snape and Snape screams,
“You’d turn my inventions on me, like your filthy father, would you?” (604).
If Snape and Lily had been friends, it proves Snape’s remorse over her death is genuine. Dumbledore might even know of the depth of Snape’s feelings for Lily, or of some bond or pact between them. But if Dumbledore did know something, he chose not to share it with Harry.
May 16th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
I do agree that there is a possibility that there was interaction between snape and lily at some point or another that made him regretful of her death. He wasn’t necessarily in love with her. The only other explanation for why he would feel such remorse for their deaths is that he was in debt to james at the time of their death and even though they are sworn enemies i would think that would make him want to pay him back even more. I think that the lily thing is more believable though.
May 16th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I was also thinking about when harry and DD were flying to the tower when they seen the darkmark above the school. Harry saw DD casting spells and assumed that DD was removing enchantments from the school. The part that bother’s me is that whatever spells he was casting while flying to the tower never really came into play in the book. Sooo… what i was thinking is, what if DD was actually creating the barrier that prevented anyone without the darkmark on their arm from getting up the tower.
I thought the death eaters on the tower seemed worried that member’s of the order were going to follow them up. so i don’t think they knew about the barrier that was preventing neone else from getting up the tower. i think DD made it so that nobody from the order could come up and ruin DD’s plan. Also when Harry ran after snape he went straight thru the barrier like it had been removed. I doubt the death eater’s would stop to remove it while they were making there escape. So, i think that when DD died the barrier was lifted, just like the curse that prevented harry from moving while on the tower.
and on a different note i think the reason why DD was thrown from the tower by the AK curse instead of dropping dead like everyone else was because JKR wanted DD’s death to be more dramatic. She is after all only human maybe she didn’t realize people were going to read so much into the effect of the curse on DD compared to other people who were killed by it. It’s almost like a continuity error in a movie. Those happen alot and considering the size of all the books togeather there is bound to be some things in the later books that contradict what happened earlier. i would have actually been disapointed if he just lay limp on the tower after being killed…. it’s DD, he deserved to go out in a blaze of glory
May 16th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
hey hey, I don’t write this stuff, I just typed it all there word for word. It seems kind of likely though. I dunno.
Today I found out that one of my friends could answer ALL my trivia questions. I didn’t even know he read the books! I am shocked. Jade still needs to read more and study (I had to point out RAB and that the veil is the portal to the afterlife to her) but I will let you guys know when she’s ready to come on.
And sorry that post was so long, but I wanted to copy ALL the evidence that was written in the book because you all wanted to hear it. So, there it is.
May 17th, 2007 at 2:55 am
I like the Snape and Lily thing. Maybe that is another reason why Snape hates Harry, because Lily was given the choice to run but she died to save Harry. He might somehow blame Harry for her dieing.
May 17th, 2007 at 8:27 am
i totally agree about the snape/lily thing…
seems like the only logical thing so far that could explain a lot..
oh and btw, i dont think fawkes is dumbledore’s horcrux..cuz well even though dumbledore was extremely close and connected to fawkes, he wouldnt have killed anyone to create a horcrux, cuz well its dumbledore…lol…and besides, if fawkes was a horcrux, then what would happen to the piece of dumbledore’s soul everytime fawkes dies and gets ‘reincarnated’ again?;)…just a thought..
the site has totally changed! i prefer this new layout, looks brighter and more colourful;)
xoxoxo
May 18th, 2007 at 10:16 am
yeah agree. dumbledore always cam across as not being afraid of the afterlife. i doubt he would make a horcrux which is “magick most evil”. i like the lily and snape theory though. that could be why dumbledore trusted snape. he thought snape was regretful of lily’s death, maybe not james’.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:30 pm
great point with Snape and Lily by whoever brought it up.
Snape loved Lily. Voldemort offered Lily to live. Snape regret Lily death. Dumbledore trust Snape.
all very good points that do explain a lot
May 22nd, 2007 at 5:03 pm
hmmmm. maybe snape knew all along where he was going, and voldemort promised to let lily live. this could alienate snape from voldemorts cuase and make dumbledore trust him.
May 22nd, 2007 at 6:30 pm
oooh, Noob, I liked your idea about Dumbledore putting the barrier up. And, yup…thats all for now.
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:28 pm
I don’t write the stuff cuz I probably wouldn’t have talked like that, but I do LOVE the theory.
BTW Reading that book has convinced me that Snape will end up going over to the side of the good, but I still don’t think that Snape killed Dumbledore on Dummbledore’s orders.
PS Did y’all know that Dumbledore is an old english word for bumblebee? I learned that only recently.
XOXO And it was “magic moste evil… you left out the E
I love you all but we haven’t been writing much lately, have we?
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Oh, what a tangled web we weave.
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Hey, have you guys ever noticed that even though Harry has “seen death” at the end of the fourth book, the thestrals don’t become visible until the beginning of the fifth?
Rowling says it is because the experience of death needs to sink in a little before they’re visible, but I know better. It’s for artistic purposes, just like when Dumbledore got blasted away off the tower (ps noob ur rite, it was so it was more dramatic). It would have felt weird introducing these su[er-freaky things right at the end of a book, so she wanted to save the big bang for the beginning of the next one, and then she had to make up an excuse for it.
She confirmed that death had to sink in, by the way. But now we all know that it was just her excuse…
I have been looking around at some of the other sites like this, and we are smart. Some of those suggestions seem to have come from people who are several twigs short of a broomstick. Either that, or, they have recently suffered from a triple dose of confundus charms… if you know what I mean.
May 25th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
hello
Oh Im Soo Anoyed that they changed this site.. i cant see who wrote what!
Im really upset naw…
oh well ily all
and the theories are brill
love
HP girl
May 25th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Yeah, the change is a bit … ish. Not bad though. Definitly more
colourful :p Any new theorys? I can’t be bothered to read through, my eyes are tired
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May 26th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
i got a new theory in HBP Dumbledore was talking to Malfoy about how he got the the DE into Hogworts I dont remember the exact words but he was like o hmm how did you do that it was something more leading he would never expect i read it awhile ago and it seemed like teh death could of kinda been planned but it came maybe sooner i dont know guys look at it again its the ch of the tower where DUmbledore dies
May 28th, 2007 at 7:29 am
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oh and btw, i dont think fawkes is dumbledore’s horcrux..cuz well even though dumbledore was extremely close and connected to fawkes, he wouldnt have killed anyone to create a horcrux, cuz well its dumbledore…lol
hplover
May 17, 2007
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DD did defeat Gindelwald in 1945 (chocloate frog card), assuming this means he killed him, he may have taken advantage of this and made a horcrux at this time.
It might be that killing is the moste evil part, not the making of the horcrux.
May 28th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
that sounds likely, that killing is the most evil part, but the whole concept seems so dangerous… and such a bad idea. But DD is not the sort to divulge in “Magick moste evil.” In any case, DD himself said that it was inadvisable to put horcruxes as animals. And Fawkes is the the equivalent of Nagini to Dumbledore. See: Dumbledore=good, Voldemort=bad. Fawkes=dumbledore’s pet, Nagini=voldemort’s pet. Nagini is Fawkes’ evil counterpart.
Lemme just say, snakes aren’t particularly long-lived, so wouldn’t it be smarter of Voldemort o put his Horcrux in, oh, say, a phoenx, which can’t die because it’s always being reborn from it’s own ashes… Something that would live forever, just like Voldemort does because of his Horcruxes. Eventually, Nagini will die. But a phoenix wouldn’t, so that probably would have been better planning to put the Horcrux into a phoenix. But a phoenix is probably too generally non-evil for Voldemort to want to put the piece of his soul into it…
Comment, if neccessary.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
dumbledore definitly did not make a horcrux, and besides, jkrowling confirmed that he’s for SURE dead.
May 28th, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Yeah, Jo’ confirmed -Dumbledore- was dead. Not Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore. For all we know it could have been Aberforth that died. Maybe even another sibling of Albus’ that we don’t know about.
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Jordan
I also see that no-one remembers me
May 28th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
what? ok maybe it was aberforth that died. but then you’d have to believe that it was aberforth who took harry to that cave by the sea to find the horcrux. and you’d also have to believe that aberforth and albus have been switching places all year….seems like a bit of a stretch to me. besides, why would jkrowling make it look like he died only to bring him back again? it kind of defeats the purpose of killing him in the first place.
May 28th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
No, she didn’t say Dumbledore died on that tower, where Harry was. She simply said Dumbledore is dead. She could be playing us along, because if this Dumbledore is indeed Aberforth then it doesn’t matter when, where or how he died – she just said he’s definitly dead. Infact, it could be Albus’ mother Jo’ is referring to. She’s dead, she’s Dumbledore, it fits.
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Jordan
May 29th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
do you honestly believe that it was dumbldore’s mother that was up on that tower? I really don’t think it was…and sad as it is, I think we should just accept that dumbledore isn’t coming back. can we at least agree to disagree?
ps: are you british?
May 29th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
don’t joke, Jordan, of course we remember you, but none of us were on at the time. It also seems like that would be impossible, because it wouldn’t ever be possible for us to predict that. It just seems so UNLIKELY.
also she never says that Albaus and Aberfoth or whatever the hell his name is are TWIN brothers. She only ever says that they’re brothers.
but I don’t want to get drawn into an argument, so feel free to ignore me if you want.
May 29th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
*Albus
May 29th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
yay! We’re at 9%
May 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pm
I remember you Jordan…And, thats stupid, it couldn’t be Albus’ mom…It was his sister that died. God…
May 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
lol
May 30th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
*no offense
May 30th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
of course not
May 31st, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Of course, it was Dumbledore’s sister! How did I not realise? :p I was only using his mother as an example. It could have been ANY Dumbledore that died on that tower. And yes, Jo’ didn’t say that Aberforth was Albus’ twin brother. But she hasn’t said he wasn’t either, so it must still be considered.
And yes, I am British.
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Jordan
May 31st, 2007 at 3:09 pm
cool, and you’re right. That would be nice, if it wasn’t that Dumbledore who died, but JK hasn’t really introduced us to any other Dumbledores. We haven’t gotten to know them, we haven’t even met Aberfoth in person…
So it’s probably our Dumbledore who’s dead.
And PS: I’m not really sure about Snape anymore. I think he’ll go over to the good side (for sure), but I don’t think he killed Dumbledore on his orders. I don’t think Dumbledore knew that Snape was gonna kill him, but I think Snape didn’t want to and he only did because of the Unbreakable Vow. I don’t think he’s bad, because when he was about to kill DD, his face wasn’t filled with triumph, or pride, or glee. It was filled with “revulsion and hatred,” words chosen carefully by our favorite Mistress of Misdirection, JK Rowling. Also keep in mind that just because DD is the smartest guy arounddoesn’t mean he knows everything that goes on around Hogwarts. He never knew that the Marauders were animagi. Or did he? Because he knew right away that Harry was at the Burrow when he snuck off in the middle of the night in the flying Ford Anglia.
Do you guys think DD knew the Marauders were animagi? I don’t but I want some second opinions.
May 31st, 2007 at 3:10 pm
btw am I spelling DD’s brother’s name right?
May 31st, 2007 at 7:12 pm
I think he always knew. Dumbledore picks up anything and everything. However, I don’t think that Snape will go on the good side if there was no plot between himself and Dumbledore to commit murder – Snape wouldn’t be accepted on the good sie, and probably killed on site.
Albus Dumbledore’s brother = Aberforth
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Jordan
June 1st, 2007 at 12:05 pm
I think dumbledore probably knew the marauders were animagi, their nicknames were pretty obvious, and if james, sirius and wormtail knew lupin was a werewolf dumbledore probably figured they would do something to try and help him. and mcgonagall did say they were the cleverst students of their year.
this is totally off topic but i’ve wanted to know for so long, what the heck is a prat? i’m canadian so some of the words jkrowling uses im not really familiar with…like git and prat…and does torch mean flashlight?
..thats why i was wondering if jordan was british, i thought he might be able to clear that up haha.
June 1st, 2007 at 4:08 pm
lol thanks guys, especially Jordan, cuz I was having spelling issues.
Does anyone besides me know what the inscription on the Mirror of Erised say? (This is totally random.) I can write it out.
Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt wohsi.
Just type in a translation if you know. I’ll tell you guys tomorrow if no one gets it.
June 1st, 2007 at 4:10 pm
* I lied I meant to type
ERISED STRA EHRU OYT UBE CAFRU OYT ON WOHSI.
Ignore that last one, because I left out a word.
June 1st, 2007 at 4:57 pm
actually i think i figured that one out…should i type it in, or do you not want me to ruin it?
June 1st, 2007 at 9:31 pm
its latin i think and i dont want to translate b/c im done w/ latin for the rest of my life
June 1st, 2007 at 10:19 pm
It’s not latin, I don’t think, and you can type it in, Moxxie. My best friend found this out, but her computer crashed (and she doesn’t have the link to this site yet). So I’m telling you guys. I’m impressed by it, because many people (including me) NEVER discovered it, and it makes so much sense for that to be written there.
Actually, it’s not even technically written in a different language. It’s (again, technically) English.
June 1st, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Prat and git and stuff like that are basically insults. I’m sure you use pharases like “You f***ing wanker” and stuff like that. It’s basically that, but tamer :p A bit like “You’re an idiot” but more offensive. Sort of inbetween :p
Read the inscription backwards to find out what it means
And yeah, torch means flashlight, bin means trashcan ect.
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Jordan
June 1st, 2007 at 11:59 pm
omg yesterday I had to do a whole worksheet in Social Studies about the translations between British terms and American terms. It was kind of fun, and I got everything right…
I love the inscription. I have it written on the paper I use as a bookmark.
I show not your face but your heart’s desire
June 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 am
Hey guys, I’ve read all the comments and even posted a few(different name) But I’ve never really had any theories to offer, BUT I THINK I MIGHT!!!!
Okay, so Lily tried to offer herself up to Voldemort to protect Harry way back when, and ended up giving him magic protection. That’s why Voldemort couldnt kill him when he was a wee baby, right? But then in GOF, Voldemort overcomes this barrier by taking harry’s blood to restore himself, yes? So…. Isn’t it possible that when DD immobilized Harry in HBP, He offered some type of the same protection? I know the circumstances aren’t the same, but Harry certainly would’ve been killed if DD hadnt froze him to the wall under the invis. cloak, right?
This is, of course, assuming that DUMBLEDORE IS REALLY DEAD… And i’d really love for him not to be. I agree with Jordan that Jo only said dumbledore is dead, she used no first names….
I dunno, I gave it a shot. Let me know what ya think.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 am
Our DD has gotta be the one dead, as much as we don’t wanna believe it.
That’s also very smart… But it doesn’t seem probable to me. Possible, but not really probable. But you shouldn’t really take my advice, because I’m just weird.
Cherise hasn’t been on in a while. Too bad, I like talking to her…
Dammit. I was gonna say something else, but I forgot what it was.
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 am
Hey, we’re at 10%!
June 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 am
haha wanker? no i can’t say i’ve ever heard that one before….wait, maybe in eurotrip lol.
james that was a pretty cool theory but i’m pretty sure that albus dumbledore is actually dead
June 2nd, 2007 at 5:36 pm
yeah. We don’t actually know any other DDs, we’ve just heard them mentioned…
Wait a minute, who would Harry have been killed by anyway? Not Draco, he couldn’t even kill DD. Snape? No, he even stopped others from attacking Harry. So who?
Not to be rude or anything. Just wondering…
June 3rd, 2007 at 1:54 pm
i think that d is infact dead
June 3rd, 2007 at 1:57 pm
do you?
June 3rd, 2007 at 1:59 pm
but sirius isnt
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Moxxie, I agree, as much as i hate it…DD is dead. Which means my theory might be ok.
PotterFan, I know it was just Draco at first, but then after a while, a bunch of DE’s showed up with that werewolf who attacked bill. Thats what I meant when I said that Harry could’a been killed. And it’s not rude at all, thats what our theories are for right?
Bye everybody
Ohhh and jhghj, sirius isnt dead? I hope so. That veil that he fell into in OOTP is still kinda wierd to me.
June 3rd, 2007 at 7:50 pm
And Harry could take malfoy one on one easy. Too bad it looks like Malfoy starting to turn over to the good side(kinda)
June 4th, 2007 at 12:40 am
I think Dumbledores dead and I think Sirius is dead. Hate it, but there you have it.
And, I think Lupin can do Legillimens(sp?) beause Harry has stated a few times that its like Lupin can read his mind and the others that he said that about were Snape and Dumbledore…and look at them. Yup.
June 4th, 2007 at 6:24 am
This is just a theory.Snape is good and Dumbledore plans to get himself killed by Snape so he doesn’t break the Vow. For some reason, i think R.A.B is Snape.
I think Snape is good, cuz he had a an argument with Dumbledore about something he didn want to do, so I assume he’s talking about the Unbreakable Vow and doesn’t wanna kill Dumbledore but Dumbledore insists.
And in the end,when Snape kills dumbledore, there is hatred and anger etched on his face cuz he doesn’t wanna do the job.And notice Dumbledore fell from the topmost tower. Dobby says :”if dobby does it wrong sir, he will throw himself off the topmost tower” in the 6th book.Houselves must know alot of information from cleaning offices and classrooms, so there may be a possibility Dobby knows about the plan.When Dumbledores dies ” a phoenix flies out from the blues” Fawkes? He has healing powers and can apparate.Everything must have been planned out.
Also one thing that i’m curious about, won’t Dumbledore’s portrait be in the office?
June 4th, 2007 at 1:21 pm
DD’s portrait is in the office cuz he’s dead. Only dead headmasters can be on the wall. I dont think snape and dd planned it out but I also dont think snape wanted to kill dd. youre rite about the revulsion and hatred thing, I made a statement about that exact thing a few posts ago (go ahead and look back if you want) But it all seems a little unlikely. the only reason i think snape killed dd is cuz flitwick told him what was going on, and since he was bound by that stupid vow, he couldnt walk away now that he knew what was going on.
Question: do unbreakable vows operate forever? If they do, snape may die at some other point in the story, if he deserts Draco then. If not, well, thats certainly lucky. Is it a one-time stand or an everlasting requirement?
June 4th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
I think the Unbreakable Vow would have been fulfilled when Snape helped Draco.
June 4th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
ok, just wondering. Wow, we are just repeating the same old theories over and over. we must be really bored. I know I am. Hey, did you guys hear that the Knight Bus is touring libraries all around the USA? I’m going to the one in the Bronx on Thursday. (That’s New York, for anyone who didn’t know, but I’ll hazard a guess that everyone did)
June 4th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
I agree with LetteOwl, I think Lupin can do legilmens/occlumency…I’m rereading the third book right now, and I was just at the part where Lupin is covering for Harry when he’s in trouble with Snape (cuz malfoy saw his head in hogesmeade) and there’s one little line in there that says, “Snape pointed at the parchment, (the marauders map) on which the words of Messrs Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs were still shining. An odd, closed expression appeared on Lupin’s face.” pg. 212
I’m not sure if Lupin was using occlumens against Snape, so he couldn’t see what Lupin was really thinking, or if he just didn’t want to think about the fun times him, sirius, peter and james had. but ya, that was my thought.
June 4th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
Moxxie, that’s great, i can’t believe I missed that. Lupin had a “closed” expression on his face. He must off been using occlumency. Hmmmm. Potterfan, you live in the States?
June 4th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
I don’t think the Knight Bus is coming down near Atlanta, or I’d take my daughter and go…bah humbug.
June 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Yes. I have never been to London but I’ve always wanted to. On the other hand, I have been to Paris, so my knowledge of Europe doesn’t amount to nothing. I like Europe, and accept that JK Rowling is British. I know things are a little different in the UK so I have started calling it Philosopher’s Stone as she intended it, instead of Sorcerer’s Stone, which I’ll admit, the title isn’t as cool.
June 5th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
By that I mean that Philosopher’s Stone sounds better than Sorcerer’s. Soory, that wasn’t really clear.
June 5th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
*Sorry
I hope I don’t need to do another correction.
June 5th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
whoa, LetteOwl you have a daughter? I think you’re older than I thought you were…how old are you guys anyways?
June 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
yeah, she had her daughter a little while ago. At least I think it was LetteOwl. I’m thirteen
June 6th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
Yup, It was me…And, I’ll be 20 in Oct. I think Im the oldest one who comes on here…
June 7th, 2007 at 7:55 am
maybe, but that’s okay. Have you been reading the series since it first came out? I picked it up between Goblet of Fire and Oreder of the Phoenix, but I did at least start with the first ones. I remember my mom having to pick up the fifth one for me over the weekend when I was in third grade. But when the sixth came out, we both waited in line for it at midnight. I finished it in under 24 hours, and I had to spend the whole day shopping also. So this time, I will lock myself in my room, and woe betide those who interrupt me.
June 7th, 2007 at 7:58 am
When I was in elementary school, I was the only one who read HP books. Everyone thought I was weird. I remember getting in trouble once in third grade for trying to read OotP while my teacher was talking. Now, in middle school, [almost] EVERYONE reads them, and thanks to my obsessive following of the books then, I know more than all my friends combined do now about the series.
and age is just a number
June 7th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
I started reading them when I was in 7th grade…I think right after PoS came out. I remember, I thought Harry Potter was stupid, but I really needed points for my reading grade so I read CoS and Ive been hooked ever since.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Wow, i’m not the only oldie here. I’m the same age as LetteOwl it looks like. When I was in sixth the first book came out, and my reading teacher made us all read it. It’s thanks to her that I’m hooked.
June 7th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
whoa PotterFan you’re only 13? you talk (type, lol) like your so much older! I’m sixteen by the way.
I think I started reading the Harry Potter books when I was like…11, I think. I remember reading the first book and being like, hey I’m the same age as Harry. I think my mom got me started on them, how odd. I read the first 3 books in 4 days…and then got the rest.
June 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
I’m 13. 14 on the 6th of August. I’m sure somebody said that they had a birthday around the same day as mine, but they might have left here by now. Well, why we’re going over our old theories, I’ll post one of my old ones. Some people might remember. Note, I am copy and plasting this off another website I posted this on
*begin copy and paste*
Hell, I don’t know if anyone else has come up with this theory I’ve had on another forum/chat thing for a long time. Someone mentioned something about the Dutch versions of the books and it reminded me of my theory.
Okay, so, most people thinks it’s Regulus Black, correct? I don’t know about the Regulus part, but I can definitly support the Black part.
Black, the name Black, is actually spelt the same as the colour (I know, it’s weird, isn’t it? tongue ). But in the Dutch version of the book Sirius Black is changed to Sirius Zwars. Also, the RAB initialys are changed to RAZ. In Norweigen, Black is changed to Svaart. RAB is changed to RAS. Same in most other foreign languages.
So, I think it’s safe to say that the B of RAB is a Black. This also supports that the Regulus theroy is correct.
However, there is always a catch. In other countries, such as France and Swedish, Black has been left as Black.
I got some parts off other websites, but I put a lot of the pieces together. Therefore, I consider it my theory tongue
*end copy and paste*
The word tongue is riddled throughout that message. It’s an emoticon on another webiste. It’s basically :p And the website I mentioned at the beginning of the theory is here =D
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Jordan
June 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
brilliant!!! That proves it! Yes, I only turned 13 in may. Jordan, I thought you were so much older!!!!! and thanks about the typing thing. Sometimes it’s important to sound older. I’m thinking of starting a fan site (I’ll keep you guys posted) and I found an article in a google search about how AOL-Time Warner is messing with teens who’ve started sites. So I’m writing for permission. And I sound a lot older… so my friend, who I showed it to, says it’s really good. Well, she would say that… but I like it, and i think it’ll help me get what I need
June 7th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
dear god, I am SO GLAD I live in an english speaking country. Could you IMAGINE waiting til november like the greeks? It would KILL me! The book isn’t released until NOVEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
June 7th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
hey guys I was lookin back and once I said DD is probably a descendant of Gryffindor, but now I realize no he’s not!!!! Harry is!!!!!!!!! Joanne even said on her site (or somewhere) that Harry might be a descendant of Gryffindor. If he is, his bloodline would parallel Voldy’s EXACTLY! See, both would have one parent who was a pure-blood descendant of a Hogwarts founder, and the other parent would be muggle/muggle-born! And since Voldemort is Harry’s opposite (basically), it would make sense to have their stories the same, but with founders as the good and the bad, just like Harry and Voldy are the essence of good and bad themseves!!
Well? Comments!
June 8th, 2007 at 8:09 am
Thats a great theory!
I turn 14 on the 20 of July, so DH will be an awesome present.
June 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
hm Jordan are you saying that there’s a different Black who found the horcrux? i was sorta confused…
June 9th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
Im 13..
I was on the 6th
And harrpotter girl and nia are
Well nia is in july
I thaught you new
Oooh and me and the girls had an argument
You know the proffercy or however you spell it..
Well you know it says ”neither can live while the other survies” Well they think it means..Not one of them can live
But really it means Neither as in .. One of the other ?
Am i right ?
June 9th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
Oooh Iroc..Nias 13 on thr 13th so only a year and a day between here. Im going to spain on the 14th..So im not here when the book comes out
So ill be really behind all of you
Im soo gutted
But atleast i get to watch the film the day before I go away..
June 9th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
the film looks quite good. but even better than the film, is the game. check out youtube and look for the wii version. it may actually turn out to be a good game since its a fullly explorable hogwarts
June 10th, 2007 at 12:20 am
the Deluxe U.S. edition of Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows shows Harry Ron and Hermione riding on top of a dragon over a village. IT’S SWEET
June 10th, 2007 at 12:21 am
I think that the dragon’s Norbert from the first Harry Potter book. you know Hagrid’s baby dragon
June 10th, 2007 at 11:36 am
it’d be cool if Norbert came back into it…
11% haha
June 10th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
Awesome. That sounds cool, and it would be nice if Norbert came back.
BTW Moxxie: he was just pointing out that RAB is DEFINITELY a Black, although not necessarily Regulus. Personally, I say it HAS to be Regulus because Rowling herself said that she wasn’t gonna introduce any new characters.
And we have known about Regulus since the fifth book.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
im looking foward to the book but i know that ive spoiled most it for myself with all these forums and websites
i really think the book will all come together a lot better than we think
June 10th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Nah, it doesn’t look like Norbert. Dragons do grow up fast, but the dragon’s wings are all, like … well, they look like they’ve been through a lot :p Like the human body wrinkles, and you get scars and all that.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/static_images/news/books_covers_us_deluxed_dh_2.jpg
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/static_images/news/books_covers_us_deluxed_dh_1.jpg
David Saylor, Vice President, Creative Director, Scholastic described the art: “Set during a highly dramatic sunset, Harry, Hermione, and Ron–clothes in tatters–cling atop a flying dragon in this astonishing artwork created by Mary GrandPré for the deluxe edition. As mist creeps down towering hillsides to a village below, questions arise about where the trio is headed and what has led them to this spellbinding moment.”
The book will contain 816 pages compared to 784 pages in the regular edition and will cost $65; 100,000 copies are being printed.
Most people on my other board seem to think that it’s Norbert, though some are fighting the argument. However, Jo’ did say that a lot of magical creatures would be joining in the war. I guess that includes dragons :p
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Jordan
June 10th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
yes yes. we can talk about endless possibilities. They will be more or less right. But in the end, JK Rowling will still surprise us all.
On that note, UMBRIDGE MUST DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 11th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Hey guys, if this doesn’t work the way I hope, ignore this post.
June 11th, 2007 at 12:11 am
okay. yeah, ignore that.
June 12th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Lol, what were you meaning to do?
And, I think Hagrid would be very happy if Norbert came back…maybe Harry, Ron and Hermione are riding him back from Romania as a birthday present for him..:)
June 12th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
what a nice thought. Hagrid’s birthday is… umm, soon, right?
and nothing important. I think I forgot to type something
June 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
go here and see what’s around his neck.
http://scholastic.com/harrypotter/books/covers/art7.htm
June 12th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Do you guys think that Fawks could have belonged to Godric Griffindor? In the CoS Fawks brings Harry 2 items of Griffindor.Why didn’t he just bring to random things?
June 12th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
maybe. That could make sense, since Fawkes would have to have a previous owner, even one from a thousand years ago, because phoenixes can’t die.
June 12th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Jordan, when did you put in that comment? I only just noticed it!
June 12th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Muahaha! 12%!
June 12th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Woot. Does anyone else think that Tonks and Lupin are definitely likely to die? I mean, they’re literally first in line to die, being in the Order, and all. They may never get the chance to get married (or even engaged), unlike Bill and Fleur.
June 12th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Yes, of course. As much as we all wanna see them get together, one or both will probably die.
June 12th, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Haha, I thought so. Also, Slytherin’s locket is probably with Mundungus. That little scene with him in Hogsmeade wasn’t included for nothing.
June 12th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
hm I kinda think Lupin will die…it’s just because Sirius took James’ place in Harry’s life, and now Lupin took Sirius’ spot…so I kinda think he’s doomed. And he’s not a main, main character, like Ron and Harry and Hermione, but he’s in it enough that we’d all be sad if he died.
I also kinda think Hagrid might die. I’m not really sure why, it’s just that he’s so awesome and jkrowling has to kill people we’ll all miss…and Hagrid’s pretty special to Harry, too..
What do you guys think?
June 12th, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Lupin cant die cuz I said so…and tonks cant die cuz it would make lupin sad. Poor guys been through enought already…
And, I still think Pery will die.
June 12th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
Percy should die. I mean, we walked out on the nicest pure-blood family on earth. How can he live with himself?
June 12th, 2007 at 8:44 pm
Blech, I mean “he” not “we”….ah, well, you get the idea.
June 12th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
percy deserves to die. He abandoned the nicest family on earth. He will be easy prey for death eaters because he is so arrogant, he thinks, well, that won’t happen to me. He’ll be put under the imperius curse (that again) within the first 200 pages.
Lupin CAN’T die! He’s the last of the Marauders! Pettigrew doesn’t count, because he’s no longer a Marauder, he’s a Death Eater. Besides, he’ll die too giving his life for Harry, because of that life debt.
June 13th, 2007 at 6:26 am
No, they can’t die by being attacked or something. They die of old age around 500 years old
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June 13th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
really? Where did you learn that?
well, now I’m confused.
June 14th, 2007 at 10:04 am
Go to Wikipedia and type in Fawkes. It says on there that Jo’ said Dumbledore had been Fawke’s only owner.
Check the page on Phoenix’s, whilst you’re at it
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Jordan
June 14th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
oh. okay then.
go here and see what’s around his neck.
http://scholastic.com/harrypotter/books/covers/art7.htm
June 14th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
JK Rowling’s site – now!
WOMBAT test.
June 14th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
im pretty sure that the slytherin locket is silver so whats around his neck…cuz that sure is gold
June 14th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Hey guys. Today, PotterFan and I went to Borders, where Emerson Spartz and Ben Schoen (creaters of Mugglenet) were discussing the possible outcomes of Deathly Hallows. We both got our books signed, and I got them to sign my trainers. They brought up some good points, you know. They seemed to know what they’re talking about.
June 15th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
what were some of the good points they brought up?
ps: I wanna take a WOMBAT test! …but I have no student identification code…
June 15th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Well, the life debts. Wormtail really needs to fulfill his to Harry. Also, not many people remember that Harry has a life debt with both Fawkes and Firenze. Though, he may not feel obligated to it…..it depends, really.
June 16th, 2007 at 10:53 am
I think that the whole life debt is if they live directly on their terms. like Firenze and Fawkes did save Harry but it wasn’t in the mercy way that Harry saved Wormtail. Harry speceifically said to let Wormtail live. Even though he did want Wormtail to get the Dementor’s Kiss, Harry still wanted Wormtail to live. On the other hand Firenze was just saving Harry out of choice it wasn’t out of mercy for him as it was for Harry and Wormtail.
June 16th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Bonjour. C’est si frais. Le bidon de vous parlent français. J’espère pas ? J’adore ‘Harry Potter’! Vous tout sucez et n’avez pas un indice ce que je dis. Ainsi ha ! Oh et moi ne suis pas vraiment français. Vous êtes mère est un hamster !
vous puez au revoir l’amour Dora l’explorateur, fille de Voldermorts.
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June 16th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
okay…
umm, yeah, th mugglenet thing was great, and Emerson is SOOOOO HOT!
and it says in the book that the locket is gold. Either when Hepzibah Smith shows it to Tom Riddle, when Merope Gaunt is selling it, or when Morvolo Gaunt is showing it to Bob Ogden. I could check which if only I could find my coy of half-blood prince.
it seems to have gone missing.
June 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
*copy
June 16th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
hey!!! We’re at 13%!!!
(applause and cheers)
June 16th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Moxxie, they can give you an ID code! You just have to click that part on the test! You know how to access the booklet? If not, let me know.
June 16th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
J’adore Harry, i can tell u are not french and our mothers’ are not hampsters. I’m glad u like harry potter
June 16th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
haha LMAO all I got from J’adore Harry’s spiel was that she/he likes dora the explorer…and ya, something about hamsters..
hm PotterFan, I saw the part on jkrowling’s site where you sign in for the wombat test thing…but I don’t really know how to get a code thing..
June 16th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
moxxie, It said that she is a girl of Voldomorts, nothing about Dora the explorer. she also says her name but i’ll keep that
private.
June 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
what? haha are you telling me that dora l’explorateur doesn’t mean Dora the explorer? oh come on…I almost didn’t pass french but I can get that much at least.
June 17th, 2007 at 12:16 am
Yeah, I picked that part up right away. Dora is the worst. I think I stand for all of us when I say, “Dora, YOU’RE THE ONE WITH THE MAP AND THE BACKPACK WITH THINGS AND KNICK KNACKS TOO!!! DON’T ASK ME!!! ALSO, THE STUPID LAKE IS RIGHT BEHING YOU!!! JUST TURN AROUND AND SEE FOR YOURSELF!!!!
There, my ranting is done. Let’s get back on topic to Harry Potter, shall we?
June 17th, 2007 at 7:23 am
has anyone else noticed, as the release date draws closer, people or posting more but not many theories. i think people are content to wait and read which is a great thing to see.
June 17th, 2007 at 8:27 am
I don’t know about the waiting part.
June 17th, 2007 at 11:19 am
Yeah, the waiting part is killing me. I’m practically on the verge of building a time machine and going forward to July 21st.
June 17th, 2007 at 12:38 pm
im actually good on that part, becuase the next few months are good for books for me. all of my favourite series’ next book is either out or coming out.
June 17th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
CONTENT to wait? no way man, I’m pumped! but I just found out I’m leaving for camping on the 21st of July! arghh which totally blows! so now I won’t get to read it until the 28th when I get back…and by that time other people will have read it and probably will ruin it for me. I’m really mad about it actually..
but I’m still excited ha
June 17th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Can’t you get it at midnight, though?
June 17th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Approuver, s’il vous plaît, quiconque le **** la personne qui a parlé en français était, juste la feuille. Partir maintenant, avant qu’il tourne laid. Je toujours peux obtenir Anton sur votre cas, de toute façon. Les interdictions de IP sont impressionnantes. Et durer le temps que j’ai vérifié, ma maman était humaine. Espérer les succès de porte vous en route hors.
Moving on, I’m not as psyched for this book as I am usually for things. Same with GTA IV (I couldn’t sleep before San Andreas came out). Oh well :p I ordered my book off Amazon, so I should have it at around 11 am. Then non-stop reading because summer for me starts on the 21st. 20th is my last day at school. And a PS3 for my birthday … wow, good haul this summer. Then fall, GTA IV … more stuff for Christmas (PS3 games and stuff, possibly HDTV). Holy crap, pretty awesome.
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Jordan
June 17th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
waiting sucks. I am spending all my time listening to Hedwig’s theme. yay!
June 17th, 2007 at 3:53 pm
Hey, PF, are you ever going to take that Mugglenet book to school?
June 17th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
of course I am, just be patiet!
I miss having Cherise around to talk to.
June 17th, 2007 at 7:41 pm
ergh, what’s with all the french? honestly. rub it in my face that I can speak it very well at all…lol oh well.
uh school ends on the 20th for you, Jordan? luuuckkyy. my first exams are on that day…bible and english. make sure you wish me luck. haha.
June 17th, 2007 at 9:04 pm
School ends on the 27th for PotterFan and I.
June 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
1. Who do you think RAB is and who helped him?
My prediction is that it is Regulas Black, Serous Blacks brother that was once a death eater. Serous tells Harry that Regulas tried to quit being a death eater which is why he believes he was murdered. Also when the gang was cleaning the house of Black, they found a necklace that was un-openable. The only down fall with this prediction is that Dumbledore told Harry that more then one person had to have taken the Horcrux. SO who helped Regulas Black? Kreacher? He did love Regulas because he was the favorite. Maybe Kreacher drank the potion in the bassin which is why he is so crazy and he would not have counted on the boat ride over.
2. Dumbledore? Is he dead or alive?
Dead. JKR said he will not be pulling any Lord of the Rings stuff. I don’t think that’s the last we will hear from him though. I think he will have had a will leaving Harry the pensive and maybe a letter that will help him on his journey. Falkes too? And the portrait of Dumbledore in the headmasters office at Hogwarts will be able to give Harry wisdom I believe.
3. Snape? Good or Evil?
I think Snape is evil because I don’t think he could have performed the killing curse and not be. Bellatrix told Harry that you have to want to really enjoy giving pain to someone to perform a unforgivable curse, If Snape cared about Dumbledore he would have been unable to perform the curse. But I’m not really positive because Dumbledore and Snape had an argument that Hagrid over heard and he told Dumbledore that he didn’t want to do something… could that something be kill Dumbledore? Dumbledore always trusted Snape, could Dumbledore be so wrong?
4. What part will Aunt Petunia have? And where did the Potters fortune come from? And what will we learn about Lily and James Potter.
JKR said something would happen to Aunt Petunia but what. No I don’t think it will be magic because on JKR’s site it said she wont. But I’m thinking she is going to reveal knowledge about Harry’s mom, Lily. JKR also said we will learn of Harry’s fortune and something about his parents, and I think Petunia will tell Harry useful information about her sister. I think James Potter was born into money and I think we will learn something more about Lily and James Potter if Harry visits there home that was in Godrics Hollow.
5. Is Harry coming back to Hogwarts?
Yeah, I think he needs to. I believe there are more people on Voldermort’s side like the death eaters, giants and werewolves. The order seems to have less people. So maybe the house elves and other magical creatures will help out too but I think the DA must join forces… I mean this is a war.
6.Peter Petgrew’s life debt to Harry in Book 3?
I read somewhere that JKR plans to do Peters debt to Harry somewhere in the 7th novel… where maybe I’m not sure. What do you think?
7. Will Harry die?
I don’t think Harry can die. This is not a tragedy and the prophecy says “only one can survive while the other lives†meaning if Harry dies Voldermort lives the whole wizarding community along with the muggle community is at a huge risk.
8. How will the Ministry of Magic be annoying in this book?
Asking Harry to be the show boy-lol! Percy redemption from the Weasleys?
9. Horcrux?
Horcruxes1 Ring from Gaunts shack2Slytheins locket which is taken from RAB Reglious black which was tossed away or stolen by Kreacher in Book 5 maybe Grim. Place.3Diary Destoyed4Hufflepuffs Cup5 The snake that harry can see through in HBP56Ravenclaws something7VoldermortHarry in not one because it would be unadvisable to make a person one and one he’s been trying to kill at that.
10. Is Serous dead?
Serious fell behind or into to the veil…. Who knows if he is dead or alive or like Luna told Harry after in HPB5 you heard the voices. Maybe that’s where you go when you die in the wizarding world??? Maybe Harry will toss the Mirror Serious gave him in behind the veil and speak to them that way??? Reparo could fix the broken mirror in the bottom of his trunk??
11.Where will Harry’s friends be and who will die?
I’m sure we will see the whole Weasley family, Hermione, Neville, and Luna… Where I’m not positive. All I know is I hope other minor characters do not disappear like Cho, Dean, Seamus, ect… And Draco Crabbe and Goyle will prob be involved.
12. And which ones do you think will die?
????
June 18th, 2007 at 10:44 am
nice post. im pretty sure sirius is dead though. i heard in an interview on tv sometime with jk that she felt really guilty killing off sirius in book 5.
June 18th, 2007 at 10:51 am
I just watched an interview that JK Rowling said someone will get a revive… Do you think it is someone who is dead now or someone that is already dead. Thats why i thought Serious died mystriously so he would make the most sense out of the dead ones now to be brought back. I read some where that Harry’s scar could also be a Horcrux because of Cedric Diggory’s death in the cementary and Voldermort touched Harry’s scar… i dont think Harry could have been one prior to that though.
June 18th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
I’ve read that Q and A somewhere before. If you’re going to copy and paste something, at least give credit to wherever it came from. I do know you copied some and made others yourself, by the looks of some of the grammar compared to others.
Also, it’s not confirmed there will be 7 Horcruxes – everyone’s just assuming there is. Who says he made the 7th after he fled the Potter’s house? No-one. Sure, Dumbledore thought, but he’s thought a lot of things that just didn’t happen.
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June 18th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
i think R.A.B IS Sirius’s bro
June 18th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
when is the seventh book coming out????
June 18th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
i don think sirius is dead cus
remember when harry said he heard
voices behind the veil
and they were in the department of
MYSTERIES so probly it was like a portal
to the great beyond or somethin
cus that was a weird way for sirius to
die and d is dead but remember again that
the portraits in hogwarts can move and
talk and d’s picture apeared on the
in the headsmaster’s office so he will
probly be dead but his pic will be of some help
June 18th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
d will be greatly missed
June 18th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
I think Sirius is actually dead. I mean, he did die in the death chamber in the ministry after all. That doesn’t sound too promising does it?
btw, I don’t really know if Wormtail actually will honour his debt to Harry. He doesn’t seem to have too much integrity…
I dunno…what do you guys think?
June 18th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
i think he will as he was in grifyndor. throughout the books, the message has been repeated, “there wasnt a witch or wizard who went bad who wasnt in slytherin”. ok- wormtail went bad but he can still redeem himself
June 18th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Dumbledore is in fact dead. JK personally stated that Dumbledore is dead but is not gone….she also said that all the theories about Dumbledore coming back are impressive but are not a part of the 7th book. Go to muggle.net to read the facts. We all wish Dumbledore hadn’t have died but the fact is he did…I cried!!!
Do u all think that peter will help Harry? I think that whether or not he wants to he will end up helping him because he is in Harry’s debt, beings that Harry spaired his life. Do u think he even knows that he is in Harrys debt?
Also I dont believe that Voldemort would make Harry a horcrux being that he has no respect for a human life…only immortality…i dont think he would trust something so important for his survival in something that can easily even accidentally die!
June 18th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I think that Harry is most definitely not a horcrux. Why would voldemort store a bit of his soul in something that he intended to kill? It makes no sense at all to me.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Sirius and Dumbledore – dead. Dead, dead, dead, dead, dead! And neither are coming back. The reprieve is not for a character who is already dead, Veronica. It is for someone who was supposed to die in book 7.
June 18th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
well if they r dead they r greatly missed
June 18th, 2007 at 7:49 pm
and will some one pls tell me when the 7 book is comin out
June 18th, 2007 at 8:09 pm
the book comes out July 21st…i am soo excited but sad also….I cant believe its the last book. I also cant believe that the book has leaked onto the internet..be careful what sites you go to..people are posting spoilers everywhere…i will freak out if someone tells me the ending!
June 18th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
Ok i just went to another blog and someone said that Voldemort is Harrys father..omg what an idiot~
June 18th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Jordan if you read that somewhere it was in another blog that i copied my response from… i figured i didnt have to quote myself.
PotterFan did you hear that the reprive was for book 7 cause i read somewhere that JKR felt regret for killing Serious in the 5th book.
I don’t think Harry is a Horcrux either since Voldy has been trying to kill him for so long but it just seemed interesting that he could have made harry one in the grave yard.
I dont think the Horcruxes are in Hogwarts.. Voldy wouldnt hide all of them there maybe one is in the dark magic wizard shop ( i forgot the name) since Tom Riddle worked there before he became Voldermort… and maybe the cup is in that old womans house?? i wouldnt be surprised if one was not in the grave yard or in the care takers house??
I’m so excited though even though i know its ending i want to know how it does so bad! i have been reading since i was 9 or 10 im now 19 and i have been waiting for this for ever! i’m so ready for it!
I’m so glad that their are people obsessed with Harry as much as i am!
What is the deal with SNAPE half of people think he’s EVIL others think he’s NOT! either way i think he will end up dying??
Veronica!
June 18th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
You mean Borgin and Burkes? A lot of people think so, including me.
Snape will probably die, but he is good, man! Come on! If Snape is bad, that means that DD was stupid to trust him, and the value of trust is important. Besides, Snape has become a complex character over the 6 books so far. He has come too far to be reduced back to a simple bad guy.
And Percy sucks!
June 18th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
oh, and the reprieve is definately someone who was supposed to die in book 7. She said Sirius is DEFINITELY dead. And she probably feels some regret for killing him, because he was a lot of people’s favorite character (mine’s lupin). But it had to be done. Part of the challenge for the hero in every good fantasy series (see Star Wars and LotR if you don’t know what I’m talking about) is learning to go it alone, without the mentor and father figures, because they won’t be there forever anyway. Best to kill them off early and have it part of the hero’s growth process.
June 18th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Hurray! We’re at 14%!
June 18th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
PotterFan, My favorites are George and Fred! Snape was so easy for me to Hate! he was very talented at Occemency and DD always looked for the best in people. I hate Percy too! He’s a sell out lol! He thinks he’s better then his family which is terrible. I think George and Fred are going to get so Rich and Famous and Percy will be sorry! And i think the malfoys will end up Poor! ha! PotterFan whats your first name.. lol i feel silly addressing this to PotterFan since we are all die hard fans
June 18th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Potterfan, I think Bellatrix is going to die too… i think she is in love with Voldy ha little does she know he is incapable of loving some one. I think Harry’s friends need to step up and help the Order? Who do u think will or would?
June 18th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Has anyone ever wondered why there is stadium seating in the death room at the department of mysteries?
People keep saying that Harry can’t be a horcrux because he can die…why would that affect anything? unless its his soul thats a horcrux, his body would be alright for a good while after he died, and it would make sence for Voldemort to kill Harry so he could mummify(sp?)the body.
By the way, I still don’t think Harry is a Horcrux.
You guys are getting out of school and Im starting classes on July 9th…poo on you.
And, Jordan, I hate you. One of those envious kind of hate tho..otherwise you’r still great
June 19th, 2007 at 12:19 am
i feel your pain im taking spanish over the summer to get some college credits out of the way!
June 19th, 2007 at 12:50 am
ok here are some facts for you to think about….
JK says that there ARE 4 horocrux left.for sure.
The 7th book will also give alot of background info on the Potters..how they got wealthy…there professions..ect.
Also there is a significants with Harry having his mothers eyes
The soring hat is supposed to play a pretty large part in the book
Aunt Petunia supposedly knows more then he lets on..she has recieved more letters from Dumbledore then just the one set on her doorstep with harry.
JK will also be giving alot of info at the end of book 7 about what happens to those who survive…i was really happy about hearing that!
Oh and the last word in the book is “scar” thats all I know~
June 19th, 2007 at 9:26 am
oh man my favourites are Fred and George by far! they’re soo so funny, I love it.
and Luna Lovegood is amazing too…I love how she makes things awkward and how she’s so…strange. ps the butterbeer cork necklace haha
June 19th, 2007 at 11:14 am
Hey, I’ve just finished reading all the books (again!) and have come up with a theory I believe could happen. I have not read all the comments on these pages yet so if someone thought of this idea before me, sorry I’m not trying to steal your idea.
At the very end of book 7, Harry and Voldemort are fighting. Voldemort is reduced to what he was before – No body and barely alive. Harry discovers he is the last horcrux, therefore Voldemort can only be killed if Harry dies. If you think about it, it’s not a bad plan, putting the horcrux in the person destined to kill you, it’s genius!
I hope I am wrong however because I desparatly want Harry to survive!
June 19th, 2007 at 11:19 am
is butterbeer alcoholic beverage??? lol i always wondered… anyways Luna is too funny! she cracks me up!
June 19th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
um Ron Fanatic I read a similar theory to yours a little while ago on another site…(sorry Jordan I can’t remember where exactly so I can’t workcite it)but that person said that what if Harry actually is a horcrux and he realizes he has to kill himself…then that person said, and because the last word in book 7 is scar, Harry yells avada kedavra and points his wand at his scar.
ahh weird eh? I don’t want Harry to die and I refuse to believe he’s a horcrux…so hopefully it doesn’t end like that!
oh ya and Veronica, I kinda wondered that about butterbeer too…I think it may be like 0.5 or something.
June 19th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Hey, I love Harry Potter and I’d love to talk about it with someone over e-mail if they’re interested!
Anyway, what people are saying about Sirius’s mothers portrait being a Horcrux, I don’t think there’d be one sitting around in the middle of Grimmauld Place. Besides, it’s Unplottable. If Voldemort knew where it was, he’d know the HQ of the Order, wouldn’t he?
June 19th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Omg, Veronica, I’ve always wondered the same thing. Lol, because in one of the books, can’t recall which, Harry mentions that he’s ‘under the influence’ while drinking Butterbeer. It made me gasp, I had no idea!
June 19th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Personally, here is my list of people that will possibly die in Book Seven:
Nymphadora Tonks
Remus Lupin
Percy Weasley
Voldemort
Neville Longbottom
Luna Lovegood
Rubeus Hagrid
Just some guesses.. I do have info behind them, however. Not as wild as you think
June 19th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
I’m hearing some pretty cool ideas and some that just don’t make sense at all. I mean, I hope Sirius gets a reprieve, because he has so much information, and the Order needs him, even if he can’t go out in public. So, I hope that’s what happens.
Also, I know this might sound mean, but I really hope Hagrid dies. Honestly I don’t believe he has anything to offer except information on Dumbledore, who’s already gone. I used to believe there was something about Hagrid we needed to know, but I’ve given up on him. The thing with Grawp and everything really didn’t capture my attention. I find it pointless to keep him in the series, taking up chapters that could be filled with surprise deaths and twists.
Also, as we all know the last word of book seven is “scar.” Yes, well I do believe that Harry’s scar is indeed a Horcrux, and after he’s killed Voldemort, Hermione (or someone else) will say something like, “Harry, where’s your scar?”
What do you guys think?
June 19th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
Julia, I like that theory a lot because it means Harry lives! Voldemort puts horcruxes in places that were significant to his life, like the cave. So he may very well mark his downfall with a horcrux. If this is true then it may not be Harry who is a horcrux but Harry’s old house where his mother died.
Or did he make them before attacking Harry as a baby? In this case, this idea cannot be true. Does anyone know?
June 19th, 2007 at 4:29 pm
Hey guys
Ive been reading a few of your comments lately and you have really got a lot of good ideas. I don’t really have any theories however. I’m not very good at putting peices of the puzzel together.
I have a few things that i would like to put in though. Snapes mother’s maden name is prince right? Also the librarian is Madame Prince. She has a hook nose just like snape. Do you think that she could be snapes mother?
Ok now I sound really stupid.
Also Nearly headless nick said that he bacame a ghost because he feared death. Voldemort fears death so will he become a ghost if he dies?
I don’t think this will really do anything to the plot just I’ve been dying to say something about it.
June 19th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
those are two good theories that i cant believe never came up. the madam prince one is especially good and im shocked i didnt see it before.
June 19th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
wait wait wait…I was pretty sure the librarian’s name was madam pince…? maybe I’m wrong. hm I’m gonna hafta go check on that..
it’ll be a good theory if it actually is prince though.
Julia that’s a good theory about Harry’s scar in the end! I had a similar one that was like, Harry looked in the mirror at his reflection where there used to be a lightening bolt scar. or something like that. I’m not sure, but ya.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Sorry I may have overlooked that. I probably read it as prince while instead it is pince. I’ll look.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
I don’t think JKR would tell us the last word is “scar” if it had that much importance… i think the last sentence will probley be after Voldermort dies and it will go something like …”The only evidence that Voldermort lived is the deathes he has caused and Harrys scar.” idk! though thats just my guess. cause i dont think Harry can perform the killing curse on only the scar without himself dyinging in the process… i think Mr. Weasley may die for Ginny and when Voldermort tries to kill Ginny the curse back fires again and Harry finishes him off after that… actually idk i’m just guessing… we have to remember love is what will save harry, love will kill voldermort!
June 19th, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Ok some people keep saying that someone in book 7 will be getting a reprieve…thats NOT what JK said! She said that someone that she had originally intended to die (in book 7) wouldnt be dieing anymore..she didnt say that someone who is already dead would be returning.
June 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
Harry lives. No WAY is he a horcrux!!! Exactly my point, thank you, shlee.
my name is Andrea. I live in the states, for those who were wondering. New York.
oh, and fergie, was it? You’re right, it’s Pince. Her full name is Irma Pince, and an anagram for that is IM A PRINCE, but that could be just a coincidence.
June 19th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
andrea! okay lol i was talking to you yesturday i felt a little silly saying potterfan lol! anyways i really hope harry is not a horcrux because if he dies i will be very very disapointed…
June 20th, 2007 at 10:31 am
I really hope that harry doesn’t die. but I honestly don’t know for sure. my opinion is that harry isn’t a horcrux but I can see where people are getting that. I hope that he isn’t.
Sorry about getting the name wrong. I have a tendency of over reading things. I went and looked it up too. I guess that I accidently added the r.
Don’t know what I was thinking!?
June 20th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
ha ya people were buggin me…
Potterfan i didnt know you were a girl…
My name is ashley..I am 20 and I live in the states..washington to be exact! If my friends only knew how big of a Harry Potter NeRd i am..they would probably disown me ha. I cant wait for the next book to come out..I have never been so excited and scared. I really want harry to live..jk has dropped hints that harry was going to live and also that harry wasnt going to live…
Oh and I still cant believe that the new hp book has already been leaked on the internet if someone ruins it for me..i will kill!!! ha
Hope everyone is having a good day
Ashley
June 20th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Wow, I haven’t been on here in a while.
The other day I was looking at the American cover for the new book, and I think that they’re going to fight in the Ministry, It looks like theyre behind curtains, and I think that maybe the Veil.
And also it looks like there are people watching.
The English verisons is diffrent though.
Well, Byeee.
Nia x
June 20th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Have u all seen this..these are a bunch of rumors that JK herself and her representitives have cleared up! *PLEASE READ*
**COPIED**
Debunked Rumors
Before each Harry Potter book comes out, there are always people who will try to turn theories they’ve concocted into fact, or even those who will simply create rumors for the fun of it. Currently, there are a few rumors about Book 7 and below you can find the ones which JKR has debunked.
Character Information
*Dumbledore is really dead. He is not in hiding and is not coming back.
*There will be no character named “Icicle,” and JKR said she didn’t recall saying there ever would be.
*Dumbledore is not related to Harry.
*Harry is not related to Voldemort, and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin.
*Lily Potter is not alive.
*Lily was not a Death Eater
*Crookshanks is not an Animagus.
*Neville is not Peter Pettigrew’s son.
*Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother.
*Petunia is not a Squib.
*Dumbledore is not Harry/Ron from the future.
*Mrs. Norris/Crookshanks is not an Animagus.
Plot Information
*Harry will not become Minister of Magic.
*Peter Pettigrew’s silver hand will not kill Lupin.
*Lupin will not return as a DADA professor.
*The prophecy refers to Harry, and not in any way to Neville.
*The final part of the prophecy does not mean Harry has to kill Neville, or vice versa
Other
*The title of the book will not be “Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat.”
*No prequel books (books that take place before Harry’s time at Hogwarts) are planned.
*”Keeper of the Keys” has no secret meaning.
*The Sorting Hat is not a horcrux.
June 20th, 2007 at 2:02 pm
NO! I so wanted Dumdledore to live some how.
My friend said today that the books where crap and the films are so much better. I don’t think our friendship will ever be the same again lol
June 20th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
ha i know hwat u mean..my friend said that harry potter was stupid…i thought i would have to sever all ties but she said she was kidding…and now were ok ha
June 20th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
omg I am at work and I am sooooo freakin bored…
June 20th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Im from Buffalo New York.. which mean it is not soda, its pop! Its a buffalo thing. My friends call me a “pothead” because of my obession with Harry potter! Its funny until your in public and people think your some kind of stoner lol! I think their starting to get annoyed that all i talk about is how excited i am! lol! anyways, i dont think Harry will die, well i hope not. i don’t think i would be the same if he died.
June 20th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
My friend and I call eachother everyday talking about HP, updates, theories and anticipation….I cant wait..i feel like i have HP fever! Were going to the midnight showing of HP Order of the P! THen 10 days later the book comes out..me and him are both taking 3 days of work dedicated to reading..i dont want anyone to spoil it for me. But then again i dont want to read it super fast..i want to prolong the experience ha
June 20th, 2007 at 7:06 pm
heres a theory. when harry was one he really was i a car crash and he was sent into comma for 17 years. so it might just all be in his head. it would be like J.K. to add a wierd twist to the book.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
I dont think she would put some passion into a Delusion… its to thought out and detailed to be anything like that.
June 20th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
Its basicaly the same thing for Dumbledor, she took six books with him the cleverest and most respected person in the book and then kills him. I’ll bet that over half the people on this site loved Dumbledor more than any other character. thats why we care some much about him dieing
June 20th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
hey I’m from by Toronto, Ontario, and it’s definitly pop! haha, that’s amazing…pothead. I would have never made the connection to Harry Potter if you hadn’t said something Veronica…I thought you were admitting to being a stoner for a second.
I think it’s cool that I found people who love Harry Potter as much as me! ps I’m reading the 4th book again. oh man I’m obsessed with this series.
June 20th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
lol yeah a couple of my friends read the books and they will go see the movie with me on the 11th but Harry’s story so close to being at a close just made me even more obessed with it then i normally am. I re-read the books again too! it really made me start thinking about why i loved them in the first place. I was going to make my Name for this Pothead but i thought people wouldnt take me serously. I hate when people say SODA! lol! Canadian eh! Lol I’m just messing with you! I love Canada, living in Buffalo means I go to Canada at least twice a month to party at Clifton Hill. I love Boston Pizza! It’s my favorite bar in the world lol. I’m so jealous of Canada because your side of the border is so done up and commercial– Niagara Falls on our side is so dirty and not commercial at all! All we have is the Casino! Do you shop a lot in New York? Your Tax is so expensive (15%) but free health insurance is something Americans could really use. I work in retail and every weekend we buses of Canadians. It drives me nuts cause you guys only get like 30 min to shop at some stores and that leaves us workers running around like mad trying to cash and get things customers. lol Anyways I know that has nothing to do with Harry Potter! Sorry guys!
June 20th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Hahaha. The pothead thing made me laugh.
Today, I brought the house down as Annie in my school musical. I was so scared, but everyone keeps telling me how great I did, so I feel a lot better.
WOMBAT part III is gone, the room of requirement is closed in JK Rowling’s site again. I took it, but then I forgot my code, so I had to take it again and get a new code.
OMG only like 31 more days til Deathly Hallows!!! I’m dying! I can’t wait that long.
One of my friends said to me, “Harry Potter is gay. If you like it, you’ve been snorting too much floo powder.”
Needless to say, we’re not friends anymore.
June 20th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
New York City, baby! I roll with my peeps like 24/7. Where I am, nothing is more important than your crew.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:24 am
New York City… I am so jealous. I have never even been to the city and I live in Buffalo! Well the city is 8 hours away from me but still I have always wanted to go! If i went tho i would have to save $1000 just so i can go on a MASSIVE shopping spree! hehe! Well, I am sure you did great in Annie so don’t be nervious!
“SNORTING A LITTLE TO MUCH FLOO POWDER” that is hilarious! who ever told you that is a closet Harry fan because how else would they know what floo powder is! lol!
June 21st, 2007 at 9:39 am
Why do people keep posting things from Muggle Net?
WE KNOW!?
June 21st, 2007 at 12:47 pm
I know what you mean about people thinking that you are obsessed with the books. My friends are always telling me to get my nose out of them and talk gossip instead. haha. yeah right. I would much rather read all day.
I’m from the U.S. but I’m not going to say where I’ll just say that it is in the western side of the country. I am really supersticious about internet sites. I have really got to get over that. I am quite far away from all of you guys though. especially all of you from European countries. that is so cool. I would love to go there.
Oh my gosh. I can not wait until the book comes out. only 30 days left. I think.
June 21st, 2007 at 1:58 pm
I’m from Falcon, CO. All my freinds snort Floo Powder with me so I have nothing to worry about.
June 21st, 2007 at 2:11 pm
I’m from Scotland. I was introduced to the books when i was like ten or eleven and i have been obsessed since. I wish i was from New York, although I would get lost a million times over, it’s all fields and trees here.
Oh ye, watch out when your all buying your books! There is a clip on the internet somewhere that shows people coming out of the shop having just bought Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince last year, then some guys drive by in a car and yell Snape kills Dumbledore. I plan to listen to my mp3 player really really loud from the day book 7 is released until I’m finished.
The book is realized in 29 days, 3 hour, 49 minutes and around 21 seconds!!!
I didn’t sit with a calculator and work this all out by the way, it’s on the leaky cauldron web page.
June 21st, 2007 at 2:40 pm
*released
June 21st, 2007 at 2:54 pm
yeay it’s only 29 days not 30. I probably should have gone to the leaky cauldron website. good idea with the MP3 player. I’ll have to do that with my ipod. also that’ll keep anybody from desterbing me.
I am re reading the series again so I can be ready when the book comes out. right now I am on the HBP.
I might have time to read all the books a second million times before the book comes.
June 21st, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Hey! We’re at 15%!!! Hooray!
I am listening to my iPod nonstop ont that night. And I won’t turn on the TV, radio, or computer until I’m done. Woe betide anyone who tries to interrupt me while I’m reading.
New York is wonderful. There’s tons of great shopping, and a lot of good museums. I know the museums and zoos back to front, I’ve been through them so many times. And it’s kind of tough to get lost. The whole city is a giant grid.
But be careful of Chinatown, East Village, and Greenwich Village. Those aren’t grid-patterned at all. Even I get lost.
June 21st, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I LOVE HP!!! Oh, my god, someone asked me today what HP stood for. I wanted to scream in her face. I was gonna kill her! Come on, with everything she knows about me, how tough could it be to figure that out?
June 21st, 2007 at 7:23 pm
I used to be from California…which has nothing to do with anything really, butcha know..
June 21st, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Did you guys here about the hacked verison of Harry Potter and the deathly hallows on the Net…. I started to read it and I think it may be the real thing… But i’m not sure…google it!? Even if it is a fake its pretty good so far…
June 21st, 2007 at 7:56 pm
i do not think harry is a horcux why would voldy want to kill his own soul if he is bent on being e mortal and pervy dose suck
June 21st, 2007 at 7:58 pm
* i mean percy
June 21st, 2007 at 9:48 pm
uh huh. He does, and (I am so sorry, Emerson) I don’t think Harry is a horcrux either. That would be a step to far (Ms. Rowling) if you ask me. Too dangerous. Don’t make us even think for an instant that Harry’s a horcrux. So yeah, I agree with you…
Oh god, I am so tired. I just finished baking brownies for a cast party tomorrow.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:10 pm
oh ya. PotterFan you were annie, I think you mentioned that…that’s cool. I was in my school play this year. speaking of school, guess whose DONE?! I’m so pumped! I had my last exam today (bible) and now I’m free for the summer! woot.
I am so gonna read that hacked version. sounds promising.
New York always seemed kinda scary to me. I’m a little claustrophobic and all those people packed onto an almost-island…yeesh. I feel queasy.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:52 pm
promising my foot. I couldn’t get at the hacked version, but I read the supposed leaked plot info for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. It seems really sketchy to me. I kinda think some poor schmo with no life got bored and decided to fool us all into thinking he actually hacked and found out valuable information.
here’s the link that will take you to the ‘leaked info’ so click on it at your risk…and sorry if it actually is the way the book ends. I highly doubt it though. happy reading.
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Jun/0380.html
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:20 pm
I just went to that site, and I’m like you moxxie
I really don’t think that is how the book is going to end.
That is really cool that you were annie in your play. it is really fun to be in plays.
You guys are just getting out of school! my school let out about a month ago! Maybee we start sooner?
Oh and I think you guys are right. Percy does suck. He would be one of the characters that I really wouldn’t mind if he died.
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
I’ve been out of school since May 25th, I go baxk on August 6th. that hacked stuff sounded like a bunch of crap to me, too
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Hey I got out that day too. Oh yeah you live in colorado. I live near there so the school systems must be similar. I’ll just say that I live in Utah.
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:15 pm
good for you all my school gets out end of month
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:36 pm
you people are so lucky
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:58 pm
i have the hacked copy.. I havent finished it yet… But it’s really good… If you want me to e-mail it to you, I will, just give me the address… I don’t know how I got it or I would put the link… I believe i can attach it to an e-mail if i saved it on Adobe Reader? I think it may be the real thing. There are some things that really surprised me but the plot makes sense… plus i don’t think anyone would waste there time writing a 659 page book and not get paid for it. Im still going to buy the book regardless if it is the real thing or not so I don’t really feel bad about reading it. anyways, I won’t write what i think will happen anymore because I could ruin it for the rest of you.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:38 pm
hey Veronica, is it anything – plotwise – like the things the hacker gave away on the link I posted up there? or is it like completely different?
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:25 pm
um idk i didnt read the hackers letter before i just downloaded the book but if it is the real thing you will be very surprised. I haven’t finished it but there is more adult stuff in it and some of my theories were wrong so far… but they go with the plot of harry potter. My screen name is Babyvee007. IM me on there if you want me to email it to you.. even if its not the real book i’m enjoying it and if it is well then i got it a month early either way its a win win situation.
June 23rd, 2007 at 7:44 am
I think that that is counted as stealing. basicaly were cheating J.K. out of her money If we read the hacked version. Its like downloading movies that haven,t come out in theaters yet. I’m content to wait for the book.
June 23rd, 2007 at 8:49 am
im going to buy the book i have it on hold at borders First i want the collection and second i re- read the books… i actually didn’t mean to find it… i don’t even know if its real i thought i was going to be clicking on the letter the hacker wrote and i saw that… anyways its a good story and even if its not written by JKR i liked it i just cant imagen why someone else would waste their time writing a book that they wont get paid for… well i know it seems kinda wrong but i couldn’t help my self from reading it after i had it on the screen and i can’t find the website where i got it for the life of me! err!
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:17 am
Its still wrong. J.K. wrote those books and wants something to show for it. if it realy is her book people can read it for free and J.K. gets nothing to show for it.
on a different note, it was confermed by J.K that the bar man from the hogs head is dumbledor’s brother.
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:31 am
To be honest there is no way that the link is legit. Malfoy doesn’t have the balls to make a horcrux. I don’t see Harry killing anyone except Voldemort. And Snape is on the good side. That link is a load of BS. I’m trying not to reveal anything to anyone who didn’t read the link but the Malfoy thing I did because its not happening.
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:37 am
when did she confirm that??????
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:48 am
Its on this site. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberforth_Dumbledore
June 23rd, 2007 at 9:54 am
thanx
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:02 am
but if you want to read somthing stupid go to
hppt://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/jun/0380.html
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:04 am
Veronica, If that hacker letter has 659 pages i don’t think its the real thing. the Brittish edition has 608 pgs and the us edition has 784. i do not believe that it is the true story.
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:07 am
it’s just some smart a** trying to get us not to red the harry potter books so you can read it if you want
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:09 am
but at your own wrisk
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:32 pm
ah Veronica I kind of want to read it…but I don’t have IM…I have msn…haha.
ps this is totally off topic but, I’m talking to my british friend right now, and I just found out that there is a 6 hour time diffrence between canada and england! what! I always thought it was one hour for some reason..and british people call lunchtime dinner? ahaha that’s so weird. and dinner = tea? and dessert = pudding? correct me if I’m wrong.
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm
you are wright
June 23rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm
i was just up on a web site and it said that jk is going to tourture dolores umbridge more in the 7th book
June 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pm
shame on you guys for reading that. I would never. I am content to wait for the book to come out and so should you. If that is the real thing, it has obviously been stolen and it’s illegal. I am ashamed that someone would have the nerve to do something like thAT.
Besides, it sounds like a load of BS to me, and I didn’t even read it. JKR would not make the plot like that.
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Yeah its prob not the right story but i liked it even if its fake. i love anything about Harry Potter. i still havent finished it i have been so busy at work but so far what i have read nothing that the hacker said happened has happened. plus, i havent read anything that was about deathly hallows… it’s still not bad though even if it is fake, i mean i plan on reading the real one… this is just one that i wanted to read too. Im a rebel so even if it is wrong to read the story i am… I don’t mind if JKR was not the author of it even though i’m not positive yet. I mean Harry will always be her creation and if this is not the real one i’m sure i will like her story better… maybe after the book comes out and if this one is a fake you guys will want to read it. moxxie if you want to read it you should leave me your e-mail address that what i will e-mail it to you. i don’t want to put mine down because the e-mail i use has my last name in it and i wouldnt want the whole world to see it lol. I would really like to share it with someone because i’m having trouble debting if it is… sometime it just doesnt seem like JKR’s style and other times its hard not to believe its not… the more i think about it the more i’m like why would anyone write this other then her, but then i’ll start to think would JKR really let it be possible that someone could hack into it and let someone put her last book on the internet. I dont think its wrong to read it though i mean even if its not her because it just goes to show how much people love the story… its like Wicked is the prequil to the wizard of oz. It wasent written by the same person but is also loved. No one thinks it was wrong to write. ABout the page thing its on Adobe Reader and the pages are not scaned so maybe it would show up as a different amount of pages depending on how it is layed out in a book? If its the real thing i didnt steal it i was just searching google and clicking on random blogs about what people were saying. I wish i would have saved the address, like i did with this blog. Believe me i am no hacker i wouldnt know where to start with that type of stuff.
someone: That umbridge thing was probley taken from the site i looked at… whats the address cause what i found unknowingly has alot of torture on umbridges part… which i loved because i hated that woman… never thought i could side with the bad guys! lol
I’m sorry if i offened anyone by reading and liking it even if its not JKR
well who knows maybe i wont like it at the end?
June 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pm
hey Veronica, ya I’ll read it. I’ll probably be able to tell in like 5 minuts if it’s jkrowling’s style or not…I’m kinda good at that type of thing. lol.
my email address is marleealana@hotmail.com so ya. sorry PotterFan if you think this is wrong…I swear I’ll still buy the 7th book even if this version is real!
June 23rd, 2007 at 8:49 pm
Hey, everybody. Veronica, i know exactly what youre talking about. I too have read the 659 page “deathly hallows” on the internet. I totally agree with you, I loved it. It was really well written and stuff, but it is one hundred percent fake. It even mentions it in the story and on several websites. A very dedicated (and bored) fan wrote it. All the same, even if it WAS real and stolen, i dont think theres anything wrong with reading it, as long as we buy the REAL thing when it comes out and make sure Rowling gets all the money she deserves. If you want to talk about it, my sn is perfectvayne. it’s dumb but whatever. see ya later
June 23rd, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Hmm…I might like to read it after I read the real book. I love fanfics, but I dont want to take a chane of any of the plot being the same. My email is JuggaletteOwl@yahoo.com
June 24th, 2007 at 5:50 am
In my opinion dumbledore is dead and he will not rise again, fawkes can only heal not give life. I also think that harry is not the final horcruxe because if he is than voldemort would have made himself weaker by destroying one of his horcruxes.
June 24th, 2007 at 6:02 am
In my opinion dumbledore knew that he was going to die because why would he show harry that information about voldemort past, he was preparing potter because if he is not dead he could have just killed voldemort himself. He was preparing potter and showing him voldemorts weaknesses.I also think that neville and harry will fight voldemort by themselves while ron hermione and ginny die. I hink that potters longbottms and voldemorts wand will connect like book 4 and all the people which riddle killed will appear and harry will kill voldemort with the avada kedavra curse
June 24th, 2007 at 8:52 am
how could nevilles wand connect with harry’s and voldemorts. fawkes only gave two feathers and im pretty sure nevilles is a unicorn hair wand.
June 24th, 2007 at 10:56 am
you cant say that it would be dumb for voldemort to make harry a horcrux cuz thats absolutely not true ….If he made harry his horcrux he would assure that the one person whos almost destiny it was to kill him couldnt….then harry the one person who can kill voldemort would have to die before that truely happens….but dont forget that no where in the prophecy does it say kill (vanquish) if i remember correctly.
June 24th, 2007 at 8:40 pm
hey Veronica…are you gonna send us the bookthing (pages) through email – or how do you wanna do it? cuz I’m actually a little excited to read it lol.
June 25th, 2007 at 11:57 am
Hii Veronica,,
I’m really interested in that Hacked version of the new book.
I doubt that it’s real but I’m soo interested in reading it. So could you please send it to me at.. nia_l@hotmail.co.uk
Thanks.
Nia.
June 25th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
yup, neville’s wand is cherry and unicorn hair. HELLO! JKR said the prophecy involves Harry and Voldemort and IN NO WAY involves Neville. (She also said that the final part of the prophecy does not refer to Neville in any way – it doesn’t mean Harry has to kill neville or vice versa.) And in Book 1, Ollivander said that Harrys wand had just one brother. It’s right there, in black and white, on page 85 of Philosopher’s Stone
June 25th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Hurray! 16%
June 25th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
hey guys…what’s your favourite Harry Potter book?
June 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
book 6
June 25th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
cus it has alot of action not that i dont like all cus all are great jk is an excelnt writer
June 25th, 2007 at 5:36 pm
So this is probably the last time I will comment here…some of u are just as bad as the spoiling sites themselves…i came here to have a convo on theories and rumors and so far I have had very interesting and well thought out convos with people. Until NOW.. all I am reading about is all your not so “subtle” hints on what will happen..whether or not the leaked info is real or not I don’t want to hear about it…that’s why we are all WAITING for the real thing to come out. Don’t ruin it for the rest of us!
June 25th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
Um, I don’t think we are, These are just theories by the rest of us as well.
June 25th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
um, excuse me? We were talking about a stolen version that is PROBABLY fake, so excuse us! Besides, no one really has any clue what will happen in book 7, these are just theories. So go right ahead. Take your preppy ass somewhere else and leave us all alone. Don’t post anymore and see if we really care.
and they can’t be considered hints, as we don’t know any more about the actual plot than you do.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
um if you don’t want to comment here…then don’t. well said PotterFan! kudos to you
June 25th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
thanks. usually people scold me for saying things like that on here (lol) *sigh*
i am so exhausted. I have a reasearch project due that was supposed to be due today, but I was sick, and I haven’t done it yet. And frankly, I’m not gonna do the research. Take that, NY public school system.
June 25th, 2007 at 7:55 pm
It seems like the closer we get to July 21, the slower time goes by. The wait is driving me crazy. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. So are we all agreed that he heavy locket no one could open when Harry was cleaning Grimmauld place in OOTP is slytherin’s locket?
June 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
veronica just like you i was typing in stuff at random i am srry if i disappointed you though
June 25th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
yup. Definitely. Locket at grimmauld place is the locket Slytherin’s locket.and we know Harry gets it okay. (if you don’t know what I’m talking about, you don’t look at the links I post)
June 25th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Hey guys im sorry it took me so long to send i was camping all weekend and couldn’t go online! i sent out the copies to the people who asked… I go to Daemen College so if you see an e-mail from Daemen its the Harry Potter book. I finished the fake verison and i loved it! fake or not it was good! PotterFan if that post was to me please say it because i will be happy to talk about this to the people that wanna hear. I’m sure its not the real one because there are things that we were supposed to find out and didnt. James i added you to my buddy list i would love to talk about it with you! and anyone else that wants to talk Harry Potter please feel free to IM me on BabyVee007!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Oh no potterfan i thought you were talking to me but now that i have read the comments that i missed while camping i see it wasnt me! ahh im sorry for the confusion! lol! im blond by the way?
June 25th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
okay, no worries. yes, I’m blond too (and smart. I have an IQ of 136). okay. so does everyone know what I’m talking about whan I say Harry gets the locket? Cuz if not I’ll post the link again.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Shlee. okay i havent said anything about what happens in the fan written book 7 so why are your panties in a bundle! i just said it was very good and if anyone wants to read it i saved it so i will send it! i’m really not trying to spoil it and thats why i kept quiet about what i was reading! plus i think what the supposed hacker said is BS!
June 25th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
ahh! LOL!! I am practically crying here! Oh my god, thank you.
btw. you know how I have an IQ of 136? Well I just logged on to JKRowling.com and found out my WOMBAT part III score is an Outstanding! Hurray! I’m so happy. (If it sounds like I’m bragging, I’m not trying to. But it’s hard to sound modest when you’re telling people you have an IQ of 136. If you know what I mean)
June 25th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
omg is anyone here one of the original?
Cherise, LetteOwl (besides you), Harry potter girl, noob, my name, lynah, Voldemort?
oh, wait, noob was on yesterday. and I think my name was on recently too.
oh well. I miss Cherise.
June 25th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
http://themostboringblogintheworld.wordpress.com/2007/05/09/harry-potter-leaked-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hollows-pdf-leaked-downloads/
I found the site that i read it from… incase the e-mail doesn’t work
FAN WRITTEN OR LEAKED HARRY POTTER DEATHLY HALLOWS!
June 25th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
ok, I have only read the first 11 pages, and it doesn’t sound like JKR at all.
June 25th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
what doesnt sound like her? Just wondering do you mean the way people are speaking or the plot…
June 26th, 2007 at 12:44 am
wait Potterfan i thought you were against it! Im glad you had a change in heart
June 26th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
wow, sorry guys! i showed my little sister this site and as you can tell she is pretty cool ha ha. That was her getting her, as veronica said, panties in a bundle ha. She is incredibly ANAL when it comes to harry potter, needless to say she wont be posting anything anymore especailly using my name. She is lame ha so sorry again!
June 26th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
wow i am embarrassed for her! ha
June 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
if the “leaked” version is real then i just hope you guys by the books and give jk her moneys worth and it dose not sound like jk material by the way. cus she has this kind of unique way of writing
June 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
haha panties in a bundle? that’s like..the funniest thing I’ve heard in awhile oh man.
ya I agree, PotterFan. I read maybe the first 3 paragraphs of the fake deathly hallows thing – and don’t get me wrong, they actually were pretty funny and interesting – but most definitely not jkrowling. there’s some really good ideas there, it’s just not quite her style.
ps: PotterFan you have an IQ of 136? ahhhh. 140 is considered genious…
June 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
I’m still gonna wait to read the “leaked version till after I read the book.
Veronica, where is Daemen College?
And, PotterFan, I’ll do you’re project for you and you can go to my medical terms class.
Do any of you have a myspace?
June 26th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
yeah i have a myspace and a facebook! Daemen College is in Anherst New York near Buffalo! Shlee sorry if i was mean to your sister? lol! myspace.com/babyvee007
for those that are reading the fan copy tell me what you think!
June 27th, 2007 at 9:29 am
dude it’s so friggin good! even if it isn’t written by jkrowling…it’s still so interesting. I’m hooked lol.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:33 am
17% woot.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Veronica, it’s ok she is loco. My myspace is Myspace.com/bournefaith or my email is ashleyderr17@yahoo.com
I’m so excited!
You all can tell that the leaked version isn’t JK’s
How? It just doesnt sound like her writing?
June 27th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Moxxie im with you! i was sooo hooked when i started! even if it isnt her it is so good! lol
June 27th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Shlee do u like it even though its not her writing cause i thought it was really good. the plot made sense and i thought Harry started acting like a normal teenage boy.
June 27th, 2007 at 11:40 am
someone i plan on buying the real one cause im not sure if this is it plus i wouldn’t want to hurt JKR sales! i loved the series and i think she deserves money for every single person that reads her book. but like i said before i can help myself i found it on accident and i couldn’t stop once i started
June 27th, 2007 at 11:54 am
I havent read it yet. Im so nrevous, i dont want the series to be done! ha
June 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
i whish jk could make more books either harry potter or one thats as good or even better
June 27th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
do you guys think pansy will end up with draco
June 27th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
i just went up on a web site and the so called hacker her name is gabriel and she said she did that to make the book seem boring cus harry potter is corrupting all the “youths”as she puts it what a smart ja and ah
June 27th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
she is so dumb her verison does not meet up with the fan verison i hate her
June 28th, 2007 at 9:36 am
ah the fake version is so good! but it’s really turning me off the ginny weasley/harry potter relationship. some of the parts are like AH this is not g rated. haha.
I’m going to be camping for a little over a week so I won’t be on for awhile! talk to you all later!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:14 am
i agree. the fake version is amazing. im really enjoying it but its based on rumours and the real book will have that twist that makes it supurb.
June 28th, 2007 at 11:49 am
aww i glad all you guys liked it!!
June 28th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
I cant read the fake version cuz I dont have adobe reader…oh well.
June 28th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
i just finished it and to be perfectly honest, i enjoyed it more than any of the previous hp books. i know many will be angry and disagree vehemently but i really liked the story. it was amazingly wroten and i look forward to comparing it to the real verion.
June 28th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
as long as you guys by jks book so she will have her moneys worth i have non to disagree about
June 28th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
and gadriel says she is a fan to wwhat a ja
June 28th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
oh letterowl i will send it to you whats your e-mail?
and Fergie this one was my favorite too. Harry really grows up in it and i loved the romance between everyone! i hope JKR’s has more of it within the new one because when the first book came out i was 10 or 11.. i have matured through the books and i feel the characters should too. someone i promise i will buy the book, its such an amazing story and if i was JKR i would be so happy that people fell in love with her characters so much that they could write something so good.
June 29th, 2007 at 12:47 am
i thought that some of the plot in this leaked version were unreal or dident follow the plot correctly, idk, maybe im wrong?????
And i was just wondering(off topic)if anyone has played the harry potter 5 video game????
June 29th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
yeah- i got it for wii today. its good fun. i havnt played it enough for a full opinion on it yet though.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
i agree with you veronica i am glad people love the books to
June 29th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
and i hope you keep your promise to
June 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
I will buy it! i love everything Harry Potter!
June 30th, 2007 at 2:08 pm
meeeeeeeeeeeeeee toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
June 30th, 2007 at 4:22 pm
wow i have so much in common with someone lol
June 30th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
I haven’t been on in a while
Okay, I did like the story but thought it wasn’t quite… right.
It definitely wasn’t JKR. It just wasn’t her voice.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:47 am
lol we do have things in common and i agree with you potter fan it just dose not sound like her and anyway as i said before a “fan” as she calls hherself gabriel posted it to “spoil” the harry potter books for us cus she thinks it is corrupting people
July 1st, 2007 at 2:40 pm
Wow guys. 2 weeks, 6 days. I can hardly sleep i’m so excited. I’ve given it some thought, and in the last two books J.K. has killed someone really close to harry, (Sirius and Dumbledore). With Dumbledore gone, Voldemort and the death eaters are going to be alot more active, and I’m sure at least someone else close to harry is going to be a target. I’m almost positive it will be one of the Weasley’s, so we all need to brace ourselves. There’s a whole lot of them, and they’ve all been really lucky so far, but I think at least one of their numbers is up this time.
July 1st, 2007 at 4:08 pm
Veronica, its JuggaletteOwl@yahoo.com
And, thanks hun.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pm
huh. I’m flippin out over it!!
I know. The thing just wasn’t her. But it was still okay. I liked that there was a happy ending for everyone.
and who cares if we’re corrupted? I mean, to quote a certain Emerson Spartz, we’re all going to hell for reading Harry Potter anyway, right, guys?
I can’t stand that people will actually think that spoiling us will turn us off the series. We’ll only turn against them. Ahem, GABRIEL! and once we read it, it was obvious that it was just another fanfic.
July 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pm
yay! 18%
July 1st, 2007 at 6:45 pm
you go potter fan
July 1st, 2007 at 6:50 pm
i have been reading harry potter for years and i am still a christian cus harry potter has nothing leading to religion if you want to belive in it well good for you but i see it as an excelent book to read for fun
July 1st, 2007 at 6:55 pm
I can’t wait to see Grawp in the movie. He’ll look like a regular gargantuan, I assume.
July 1st, 2007 at 6:58 pm
probaly but taller than hagrid i guess
July 1st, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Way taller.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:01 pm
I am half christian (half jewish) and I have been reading HP since second grade! now would be an excellent time to refer to the wall of shame on mugglenet.
http://mugglenet.com/wallofshame.shtml
he gets letters that complain about how HP is satanic. and he said that people are insane for suggesting that… or to use his word, DELUSIONAL (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)
July 1st, 2007 at 7:03 pm
Goodness, PF, you’re at it again.
July 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pm
So….I guess…no one has anything to say about one of the weasleys being killed….that’s ok. I’m only a little sad.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:04 am
Hey James, I really hope one of the Weasleys don’t die. If one does though I hope it’s Percy!
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 am
I wish they could all… like no more deaths except for the bad guys! Cause Harry has been through alot!
July 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 am
o.o activity. Alright.
So, guys, what are your favourite and most disliked Harry Potter book. Start with your favourite, and go to your least favourite.
Prisoner of Askaban – I’ve read this the most. It’s my favourite book of all time. Not just Harry Potter, but of all time.
Half-Blood Prince – I think this would have come 3rd if Harry hadn’t been a whiney little bitch all the way through Order of the Phoenix. It had the adventure factor, and it had all the dark stuff. Also, you probably wouldn’t be able to understand Deathly Hallows unless you’ve read this. This is the only vital book that you need to read to understand the others.
Order of the Phoenix – Harry bitched about everything throughout this book, but it was still well written and had a good plot. It was also interesting because we start to learn about Voldemort and how he must be beaten.
Chamber of Secrets – Though not very good, it’s definitly better than the books below this. A fun and mysterious read.
Philosopher’s Stone – I got bored of this book. It has a twist at the end, but it was overall very boring.
Goblet of Fire – Though this has grown on me I still hate it. The first time I read this I was about 8 or 9 and din’t bother reading the last few chapters. You’re probably thinking that a 9 year old would get bored of 600 pages, but not me. The book was just boring and didn’t grip me like it should have done.
If you’ve seen it before, that’s because I copy and pasted it from somewhere else I put it.
July 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 pm
okay heres the order i am putting them in:
1. prisoner of azkaban
2. goblet of fire
3. order of the pheonix
4. hallf blood prince
5. Chamber of secrets
6. Sorcerers stone
sry but i dont have time to explain right now, i will sum other time…
July 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pm
OMG i just got done reading that fake version…it was very very good. I really liked it. I dont want Harry, Gin, Herm or Ron to die. The romance of it all was very good and it was all well thought out. I loved the romance between Gin and Harry…I caught myself smiling at certain parts..it was crazy..it made me happy ha. I really hope that JK incorporated the romance in the new book. There all becoming of age and its only natural for those feelings to come out. Besides if Harry has to die, GOD FORBID, he should atleast get laid first ha just kiddin. But it was really really good. I have decided that if for some reason I dont like jk’s version Im going to pretend the leaked version was the actually ending ha. Wow im am rambling..good bye ha
July 2nd, 2007 at 4:18 pm
1. ORDER OF THE PHEONIX
2. HALF BLOOD PRINCE
3. SORCERERS STONE
4. PRISONER OF AZKABAN
5. CHAMBER OF SECRETS
6. GOBLET OF FIRE
AND IF A WEASLY IS TO DIE I TO HOPE IT IS PERCY HE IS SUCH AN IDIOT
July 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pm
philosophers stone- this is my favourite hp book becuase it introduced me to the joy of reading. i never read for fun before this book (i was 7) and this opened up a whole new world for me (in more ways than one)
half blood prince- i liked the plot, the mystery, the romance, and it was so well wrote that when i read dumbledore getting killed, i felt…hollow
goblet of fire- i liked this one as it was probably the one with the most action, and magic in it
prisoner of askaban- i liked the whole intro to the dark part of harry potter and the characters were fleshed out in this book
order of the phoenix- i didnt like this one that much but i liked the whole DA part and the way emotions ran high. it made the characters more…human
chamber of secrets- i dont know why but i found this book…unnesecary. it didnt have any huge plot or plan to it. (ok the diary is important when you get to the 6th book, but thats it). it gave away too much. (im pretty sure it tells us harry is a horcrux)
July 2nd, 2007 at 8:57 pm
My order would be the order they came out in because each year they got older things got a little crazier.
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 am
James i really liked your comment about the Weasleys i think one may die too hopefully its douchebag Percy… i just hope its not Ron, Ginny or the twins… I have a thing for twins… lol jk no there just comic relief and i would be said if they died!! anyways do u think the kids at Hogwarts mess around in the dorms? Like there normal boys that have hormones they have to right? What do u think James?
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 am
Omg!! wow sum of these ideas are awsome!!!
wooooooooohoooooooo im so excited!!!
I love the idea about the invisibility cloak!!! bwt the note harry got with it!! wow
how du yu ppl think of such guurd things!!
ure magnificent lol!!
Neway woooooooooooooooo cnt wait!!!!!!!
July 3rd, 2007 at 11:44 am
veronica i am not james but i think they do mess around
July 3rd, 2007 at 1:47 pm
to hbp= please use correct spelling. it is a chore having to decipher what you wrote.
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm
lol someone… i was wondering i figured they had to
July 3rd, 2007 at 2:54 pm
I read the supposed hacked version. I thought it was excellent but the idea of it being JK is total bullshit. Its just not her style. I do recommend that you all read it because its like living the adventure twice.
Goblet of Fire
Half-Blood Prince
Prisoner of Azkaban
Order of the Phoenix
The other two books I consider to be just average. In my eyes there horrendous compared to the other four. I don’t mean this in an offensive manner but its just my opinion.
July 3rd, 2007 at 4:25 pm
yea i thought so to
July 3rd, 2007 at 5:38 pm
i feel silly calling your someone whats your first name… lol
July 3rd, 2007 at 6:51 pm
it’s ashlee but i am not shlee
July 3rd, 2007 at 9:55 pm
He my name is ashley but i was called shlee by everyone when i was little..amoung other nick names we wont talk about. I agree with you Veronica..my order would be the order they were written in. All the books are coming together amazingly! I love love love HARRY POTTER…incase you all didn’t know ha!
Oh by the way..what was Harry Potter Pwincess talking about..something about the cloak..what was she meaning when she said that she liked the idea about the cloak? hmm anyway talk to you all later!
July 3rd, 2007 at 10:01 pm
P.S. I love you alllllll! ha
July 4th, 2007 at 3:25 am
Hahahaha. Yeah veronica, i’m sure all the little hormonal wizards sneak into each others dorms to explore. And you know what I think about that. HAhahahaha. I’ve been reading GOF again, and it’s so obvious that moody was an imposter. J.k. drops mad clues everywhere.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:16 am
okay, this is my order:
1) Order of the Phoenix – I don’t like that Harry was so whiny all through the book, but it made him seem more human. In the real world, his hormones would be raging at this point in his life. He’s not superhuman, just magical. I also thought the plotline was very well-developed. I love that there’s so much drama in the story. We see the other sides of lots of characters. And the book starts off with a bang – Dementors in Little Whinging, Harry almost being expelled, and the thestrals, which are a small mystery for a long time and show up because of Harry’s experience with death.
2) Prisoner of Azkaban – I love the book. That’s it. Who wouldn’t? I loved trying to sole the mystery of where Lupin was disappearing to every month. And the mystery of how Hermione was managing to attend all those extra classes, and where she kept disappearing to and showing up in a different spot than the last place she was seen. I was very surprised by the ending, and I was happy to find out that Harry had a sort of surrogate parent, someone whom he could depend on.
3) Half-Blood Prince – This book explains everything. It finally answers the age-old question that no one asked – not, “Why did Harry live,” but, “Why didn’t Voldemort die?” The answer was much more disturbing than anything I had imagined. I defy anyone who says they didn’t wonder. The only bad thing about this book is that it’s the only one in the series where everyone goes home before the conflict is completely resolved. The real ending is left hanging, which is why this book ranks number three. Although, maybe it’s a good thing the plotline was left hanging. If it wasn’t. none of us would be on this forum.
4) Chamber of Secrets – This book ranks number four because I absolutely despise the other two. The twist is astonishing, and I can honestly say I was shocked. Who ever would have suspected that it was little, innocent Ginny Weasley petrifyinng all those people? I never would have suspecte her. The little child, sister of Harry’s best friend in the world, and who seemed to have such a thing for Harry. Still, this was not my favorite book. Compared to more recent books, this one was astonishingly lacking in detail, and the trail of clues was almost invisible.
5) Philosopher’s Stone – JK Rowling was only just getting truly serious about writing. This was her first book ever to be published. Her skill has grown a lot, which makes me more inclined to favor newer books. She was still learning how to deliver important information (see chapter one) and the details were lacking. Nonetheless, I admire the twist at the end. As Quirrel himself said, “Yes, Severus does seem the type, doesn’t he?” Yes, he does, and we never would have suspected Quirrel.
6) Goblet of Fire – maybe I’ve just seen the movie too many times, but this book no longer does anything at all for me. The plotline seems to ramble on during the slow parts and seems to be at least one hundred pages too long. The book’s plotline is very long and exciting, but I can’t feel much enthusiasm anymore. Also, this is the first book where we witness the death of a person firsthand. This step may be necessary, but that doesn’t make it pleasant. Even though the book is good, it doesn’t take long to lose it’s luster.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Sorry that was so long.
18%!!!
July 4th, 2007 at 11:42 am
James inlighten us on your thoughts about boys and girls toegther at Hogwarts? What happens behind the scenes? lol Yeah i re read all the books and when i was reading GOF i felt the same way. There will prob be some twist in this one too JKR is good at that.
July 4th, 2007 at 11:58 am
Bookworm, the librarian’s name is Madam PINCE, not Prince. Sorry.
It was a good try though.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Hmm.. I actually cannot decide which book I love more.. Half Blood Prince of Order of the Phoenix. But I think I’ll have to say HBP by a hair
July 4th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Jeez, PF, slice my favorite one, why dontcha? Anyways, here’s my list:
1) Goblet of Fire: Well, the bad guy comes to life in this one. That’s always interesting.
2) Order of the Phoenix: Ok, aside from being dramatic, Umbridge gets owned in this, and we get introduced to Tonks and Luna (my fave characters)
3) Prisoner of Azkaban: Lupin and Sirius were introduced in this, and this was the only book with a decent DADA teacher (that wasn’t evil). Also, Sirius was intorduced.
4) Half-Blood Prince: This finally gives off a lot of the info that we’ve been looking for. Also, Ginny and Harry are at last on the same love wavelength.
5) Philosopher’s Stone: Ah, yes. This book fulfills Harry’s dream of escaping the Dursley’s and finally making friends. It’s one of the few books that still portrays innocence.
6) Chamber of Secrets: Ok, I almost hate this one. It’s not boring, but it’s not that exciting either.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Well, I have to slice your favorite book. I hated that one.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
no offense.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
Well then….
July 4th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
Ha ha! 19% already!
July 4th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
BTW you mentioned Sirius was introduced in PoA twice. And that’s not exactly true. We first met him in PoA, but he was mentioned back in chapter 1 of PS.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
Yeah, that was the point. And we didn’t actually see him in PS.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
I know. I said that too. MENTIONED! but so what? we still heard about him first there.
July 4th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Eh, grumble, grumble….
July 4th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
do you guys think that when harry gose back to godrics hollow he would find some amazing clue if he dose go back which i think he would
July 4th, 2007 at 5:49 pm
yeah. there definately will be something significant. maybe a horcrux (doubt it) or maybe just an insite to harry’s parents lifes
July 4th, 2007 at 7:22 pm
cool
July 4th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
I think Neville will be one of the most important characters in the next book. I mean, even if the prophecy DOES point to Harry, I still think Neville has a very important part to fulfill.
July 4th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
My list of favorites go from the most recent to the least. HPB, OOTP, GoF, PoA, CoS, and last PS.
July 4th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
I think Neville will be very important too. I think he will battle with Bellatrix, i don’t think he will die (or maybe he could) but i think maybe in their fight both will get away, and Bella will disappoint Voldy (which in her eyes would be worse then death). Neville and Harry share alot of similarities in their life, Both Parents were stolen away. they have the same birthday (which i don’t think Neville even knows)…I think Harry will tell Neville how close he could have been to having the scar lay upon his forehead.
i think Harry will find something very important in Godrics Hollow, Maybe nothing as important as the Horcrux at least something about his parents. Even if it’s just a feeling of how his life could have been.
July 4th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
I think Neville and Luna should deff hook up… Neville is more normal and Luna is a better wizard (except maybe in Herbolgy). If this is war i think love should be every where… Look at WWI and WWII, people were getting married before left and right and the babyboom happened right after the soliders came home. Plus Harry’s biggest difference from Mr. Voldy Vuu is his ability to love. (sorry i like to make Voldermorts name into a joke because he’s so big and bad) His ability to love others will play a big importance.
Do you guys think Harry wont be returning to Hogwarts… And if he doesn’t or the school doesn’t re-open, Do you think the not as main characters, like the DA memebers will have any place within fighting VoldyPoo. I think it will be necessary to get more people involved in the Order because i feel like they have so many less people then Voldumpy.
July 5th, 2007 at 12:13 am
No affense potterfan but i dont understand how someone can dislike the 4th book that much. The main reason i love it so much was because i read it in 3rd grade and everything going on seemed so awsome. So many main events going and the book just seemed to drag on forever and then right at the end when you think its all calmed down you find the true villian.
And Veronica i think whether hogwarts opens or not we will see it at some point along with Sirius house.
July 5th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that we will see Harry go to Sirius’s house. (The locket for one and thats where the order meets.)
July 5th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Okay..
Order of the Phoenix- It had to do alot with the polotics of wizarding england, and showed that even though Harry is extreamly gifted, even for a wizard, he’s still just a 15 year old boy who is cracking under all the pressure.
Half Blood Prince- We get to see into the life of Voldemort and see what made him tick. Also, even though we didn’t know it till the end, we were finding out more about Snape and how, if you really look, he is alot like Harry in some ways.
Prisoner of Azkaban- I love this book. The other two only beat it because they are alot more mature, but this book really opens things up and starts to explain inportant points. And, we are introduced to Lupin, Sirius and Peter.
Goblet of Fire- I loved the twist at the end. This book also forced Harry to start growing up. Yes, he had problems before, but this just shoves everything in his face. Voldemorts back, Cedrics dead, Spies are in Hogwarts. As unpleasent as it is, harry’s childhood gets cut short in this book and it paves the way for the mature content in the next books.
Philospher’s Stone- This book is great, I’ve been trying to get my cousins to read it for ages, but since the movies are out they wont touch it. You find out that magic is real, and you’r life doesn’t really have to be what it seems. I mean, after reading just this first book, how many of you seriously havent wished that you were really a witch or wizard and could attend hogwarts? Hell, I spent the time counting down. (”Okay, one year left till the send me my letter”..”ten months”..”two months”..”any day now”…”they’re probably just running late this year”..I figured that since this is america, they’d just start you in your high school years.)
Chamber of Secrets- This book starts to show you a teeny bit about who Voldemort really is. This is actualy the first book I read and it holds a special place in my heart. Aww.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:02 am
the more i think about the book the more i want to read it. I mean if i worked at one of those stores that had the books i would def jack one of those from the back room and book it. Id rather be in jail for a week with that book that at home forever without it. man i sound like a nerd.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Noob, I’m actually planning a break in! I figured if i went into Walmart where the trucks park and unload stuff.. get one of thoughs blue shirts and start looking through the packages i’ll be okay? right?I have been debating for weeks… lol we’re all nerds if were blogging about Harry Potter… I’m a closet Nerd you see.. My friends know my obession they just know how bad it is! lol!
I need HarryPotter Anonymous… a self help group for someone to get over there Harry Potter Addiction…
Hi, My name is Veronica and i’m a Addict. I’m addicted to the Harry Potter series… ::crowd sighs with disgust:: yeah, i know its terrible i have been harry potter clean for uhh about an hour. I’m so bad that i blog, read JKR’s website, other websites, search him on You tube, look at Myspaces of people who play “wizard rock”, Re-read all the books and watch the movies over and over again… I even watch Potter Puppet Pals! I have a count down till the book comes out and i have taken off from work the 11th and 21st….
July 6th, 2007 at 11:12 am
well if we dont get a comment from you for a while we know what happened lol
July 6th, 2007 at 11:13 am
i just thought to myself jail really cant be all that bad if you have good books to read.
July