Guess the title of JK Rowling’s 7th book of Harry Potter series and win

Guess the title of JK Rowling’s 7th book of Harry Potter series and win
JK Rowling said two characters will be killed and even hinted that it just might be the end of Harry Potter himself. While waiting to learn Harry Potter’s fate odds makers posted a new enticing prop: “What will be the title of the 7th book in the Harry Potter series: Harry Potter and the Parseltongue Trophy or Harry Potter and the Great Revelation?”
I’m sure that JK is just playing the publicity and getting people to talk about the upcomming book. The buzz can’t be anything but good for sales. Of course there’s a conflicitng opinion on Harry’s death here: Harry Potter Will Not Die, According to British Literature Expert
In the end, however, Harry will survive, says James Krasner, professor of English and British Victorian literature at the University of New Hampshire. “There’s no way Harry will die,†he says. “Harry won’t die largely because these are comic stories, like Dickens’ novels, in which good has to win.â€
[UPDATE]
Book 7 is ready for pre-oder at Amazon now!
Discuss it here.
July 31st, 2006 at 10:49 am
ok i think it will be harry potter and the chariot of light. i heard that somewheres and it sounded good
July 31st, 2006 at 10:51 am
what did every body think about my last comment on the last web page? i think harry is going back to school. but he is going to talk to dulbmedore in the picture. he is going to find out where the last horocruxes are. i think they are hidden in the school. i think the chamber of secrets is going to be in the last book. why do they call it the chamber of secrets. i think theres more ther than meets the eye. i think harry potter is related to godric griffiendore. because one of the teachers said it took a true griffiendore to pull the sword out of the hat in the second book. and harry lived in grodic hollow. i wonder if there is any relation there. and when harry first picked up a wand red and gold sparks shot out of it. and isn’t that the griffendore colors.
July 31st, 2006 at 2:56 pm
anton did you shut the other site down because of NO 1 FAN MAN ?
hope he doesnt come bak on here!! it was really good site and really good theories untill HE came along and started asking evrybody out!
July 31st, 2006 at 3:10 pm
Ni-ni,
I shut down comments on the other post partly because it was getting too long and mostly because of the people swearing and name calling. There’s no need for that sort of language and I’m likely to start deleting posts if they continue here.
–anton
July 31st, 2006 at 3:35 pm
yea i know! it does ruin things alot!! it used to be really good
July 31st, 2006 at 5:05 pm
Just Mayb–
No thats jsut a rumor its not true.
Oh yeah I said I agreed with you on pretty uch everythign you said. Except one thing but I forget.
I hope everyone knows where to go now.
Srry Anton. And is there a way where you can kick people out like No 1 Fan Man?
July 31st, 2006 at 7:12 pm
i got a question. you can not apperate in the school. but why can the house elves do it. and has everyone notice that dobby refers voldermort as dark lord. it thought that only you know who followers called him that. so is there more to dobby than meets the eye.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:13 pm
Just Mayb–
House elves have special powers. They can pretty much apparate anywhere they want.
August 1st, 2006 at 3:32 am
Just maby-
Dobby calls him the Dark lord cause he lived wid Malfoy n they were um,…….. Death eaters. N they don’t specify tht Dobby apparates, they jus say tht “there was a crack n Dobby appeared “.
August 1st, 2006 at 7:21 am
Nikki–
That means he apparated but House Elves can cuz they have different magic then wizards.
August 1st, 2006 at 8:59 am
yea, house elves can aapperate cuz they need to in hogwarts dontt they! they got the whole skwl 2 clean, but it just sounds diffrent to a wizard apperating
August 1st, 2006 at 10:14 am
i think voldermort will go back to the school sense dulmberdore is dead. and try to take it over. because dulmberdore said you know who wanted to find out the secrets of the school.
August 1st, 2006 at 11:51 am
Ok, for those of you that don’t read JK Rowlings official website on the FAQ page (click the paperclips) she says:
House elves have their own brand of magic which allows them to apparate and disapparate to allow them to do there work unseen
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And the thing about Dobby calling Voldermort “The Dark Lord” – he used to work for the Malfoys, which meant that other Death Eaters would frequently go to the Malfoys house to discuss ‘buisness’. Also, the reason Death Eaters reffer to Voldermort as “The Dark Lord” is out of fear and respect. What would Voldermort think if Death Eater’s house elves didn’t even have the respect to call him “The Dark Lord”? That would mean that Dobby would be punished if he failed to reffer to Voldermort as “The Dark Lord”.
Any more questions and I’m sure I can help
August 1st, 2006 at 12:16 pm
hia Jordan, what did you meen by (click on the paperclips) lol ??
August 1st, 2006 at 12:59 pm
Jordan–
Uhm yeah we alrdy answered that question like 50 bajillion [[hell yes thatsa real numer]] times and I would hope we all go to JKR site, mkay?
August 1st, 2006 at 4:01 pm
good point jordan i agree with you
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:53 am
omg, i just relised some thing( call me slow), Jordans right only the death eaters refer to voldi as the dark lord, in the note it says to the dark lord so the person who wrote it has to be a death eater (or was), so it is Regulus!
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:34 am
wel its not guna b slughorn is it?!
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:41 am
yeah i am so sure its Reglus Black all the clues add up-
1. R.A.B -Regulus, something, Black.
2. A locket was found in the Black household that no 1 could open
3. Only Death eaters refer to volid as the Dark Lord, the note is adressed to the Dark Lord.
4. Regulus died for backing out of a job, he could of know that he was going to die and did something to stop the Dark Lord.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:06 am
Harry Potter Girl/Ni-ni–
Yes most of the clues match up but still we don’t have much info on Sluggy and the info that we do have can also point to him being RAB and when asked JK if RAB was Regulus she ssaid “Oh really, you think that?”
I dont know.
August 2nd, 2006 at 9:08 am
i wonder if dobby can apperate in side the school some on can apperate along side with him.
August 2nd, 2006 at 10:41 am
I’ve got something to say about R.A.B being Regulus Black. Most people have only said that his Uncles middle initial was A, but his grandfather also has the initial A, which means the signs that point to Regulus are alot stronger. Also, in the forgein versions the name Black has been translated to correspont to the spelling of the colour Black, and in the forgein versions the last initial of R.A.B has been changed to the appropriate letter, which means the person was definitly a Black. Sorry if this doesn’t make much sense but I have a TV blaring in my ear.
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Jordan
Oh, and by ‘click on the paperclips’ you need to follow this link – http://www.jkrowling.com/en/index.cfm – and then actually click on the paper clips. If that link won’t work you’ll have to enter the text only version of the site using the following link – http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/ – And go to F.A.Q and then “About the Books”. Anything else, just ask.
August 2nd, 2006 at 1:14 pm
The other Chosen 1-
how in hell could it be slughorn???
August 2nd, 2006 at 1:27 pm
just mabey- dobby does not apperate!
August 2nd, 2006 at 1:50 pm
Dobby does apparate, he just uses a different form of magic to do it. But, now we’re on the topic, I’ve had a thought
Mabye if Voldermort and his Death Eaters could get hold of some Elf magic and somehow get the magic into their bodys and gain the ability to use the Elves brand of magic they could apparate into any building, because the Elves brand of magic can avoid inchantments to stop intruders – which means Death Eaters would have access to Hogwarts at any time.
This possibility could never become a reality in Jo’s world, it was just a thought that crossed my mind whilst we were on the topic
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Jordan
August 2nd, 2006 at 3:26 pm
Yea, but wudnt it b easier to just use the vanishing cabinets than elf magic to get in2 hogwarts ?
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:20 pm
I don’t mean to be rude, but do you really think that they’d keep the vanishing cabinet after it lead to the invasion? I think not.
August 2nd, 2006 at 6:55 pm
Jordan–
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August 2nd, 2006 at 6:59 pm
sry about that.
Any ways Jordan, good point about the DE and the vanishing cabienets.
Okay everyone pleassssse we know about House elves now lets get off that topic.
Harry Potter Girl–
This is a theory about how it could possibly be Sluggy.
So I was thinking of RAB…and what if JKR was just well…lying. I mean she does like to throw us off a lot so what so different about this time? What if those aren’t the real initials? I mean AGHH yeah why would hse do that but check this out. I believe Slughorn is a suspect.
Okay so in order to learn/do the Dark Mark, you must be a Death Eater, right? Okay…so when Harry and Dumbly go and try to get Sluggy for Potions master, Sluggy pretends to be attacked.But Dumbly knows better and finds him. Sluggy asks “How did you know I wasn’t rly attacked?†“Easy†Dumbly says “The Dark Mark wasn’t
over your house.â€
Big deal.
But Sluggy’s response. “Oh I WOULDN’T HAVE TIME TO DO IT ANYWAYS.†Now if he rly knew how to do it he would’ve been a former death eater. And knowing Dumbly he would’ve picked up on that statement very fast if he thought Sluggy wasn’t a previous Death Eater. So perhaps Dumbly knew Sluggy could’ve been a former DE but he has switched sides and is now good for good, and he has like truley switched sides.
Okay maybe just a coincidence? Here’s the biggy on this theory–
Now apprantly the only ppl who know about Voldy’s horcruxes are himself, Dumbly and Harry. And when Harry needs that memory from Sluggy he won’t give it to him. Why? Because Slughorn is “ashamed of what it shows.†He says he did “great damage that day.†He means of course by explaining to Voldy what a Horcrux is. But if Slug didn’t know that Voldy had Horcruxes [[which makes him almost impossible to kill]] how would he know the damage he had done? Why would he be ashamed of showing that memory? Because he DID know about those Horcruxes and perhaps he stole on of them….
One more thing. Slughorn says hes been running from the Death Eaters for more than a year. But why would he be running from them? Because he betrayed them? We know that the Death Eaters go after betrayers i.e. Regulus, Karkaroff, etc.
I know its a bit farfetched…I’m not even sure I completey believe it…But I guess anything is possible. I like my other one on Kreacher better though lol.
August 2nd, 2006 at 7:48 pm
i htink harry will go back for the book in the room of requirement.
August 2nd, 2006 at 8:21 pm
harry already got the book back from the room of requirement didn’t he?
August 3rd, 2006 at 7:15 am
the other chosen 1 -
dont the death eaters know about the horcruxes b’cuz member malfoy had the diary
August 3rd, 2006 at 8:39 am
ok i dont know what were tlkin bowt bcos i cudnt b bothad 2read all the comments .. but yeh nini nd beth hehe out theories sound soo rite
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:00 am
Ni-Ni—
We’re not sure whether DE know about the horcruxes. Maybe Voldy told everyone or maybe he told a select few or maybe Malfoy didn’t know it was a horcrux and just a possesion Voldy said DONT DESTRY but he absent mindedly gave it to GInny hoping to get Arthur perhaps fired. Noooo idea.
Whatd you all think about my Sluggy theory?
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:03 am
OKAY JKR HAS CONFIRMED IT HERSELF.
“Dumbledore is really dead. He is not in hiding and is not coming back. ”
Go to http://mugglenet.com/books/futurebooks/book7/rumors.shtml for more.
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:07 am
http://mugglenet.com/books/futurebooks/book7/confirmed.shtml
New Confirmed Info and Debunked Rumors.
August 3rd, 2006 at 2:48 pm
hey, just thought I’d say that Death Eaters were after Slughorn because they wanted to recruit him, and if he declined the offer they would kill him. Also, you might be intrested in the off MuggleNet.
Moderator Soledad O’Brien asked the three authors who from their books they’d invite to dinner. Stephen immediately said he’d invite Harry and Hermione.
- While Jo is listing the characters who she’d invite to dinner, she names the trio but then pauses. The crowd begins to shout out other characters, but Jo responds, “I’m the only one who knows who lives through the series,” accidentally implying that she could only list characters who make it through the final book. Her final two choices (after realizing what she said) were Dumbledore and Hagrid.
Well, she implied that she would only bring charaters that lived to dinner, and she said Dumbledore and Hagrid as her last two. Does this mean Dumbledore isn’t dead? Mabye she was just lying to MuggleNet on the debunked rumors page? As much as I want him to be live, I think he is dead.
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Jordan
Oh, and sorry if there are many missing letters in words, I’m not at home and using a horrible keyboard.
August 3rd, 2006 at 4:38 pm
does everyone agree that hermione will see herself intwined with victor since it says “other than Ron”?
and does anyone besides me think that either dudley or one of dudley’s mates might be the one that does magic late in life? i think it’s Piers from the first book
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:01 pm
sorry in the last thing i meant to say does everyone agree that hermione will see herself with harry. i was watching goblet of fire and he was who i saw so i accidentally said him
August 3rd, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Yes but what if the DE hadn’t goten to Slug yet. And what if he was previoulsy a DE turned good and now hes runnign from them.
JK would not lie in an interview about the books, you’ve seen her answer, if she can’t say she’ll say I can’t tell you. And she wouldn’t lie so that theories out of the question.
Lynah–
Yes I saw that too and thought the same thing but I don’t liek her and Victor =[
August 3rd, 2006 at 9:29 pm
her and victor could be one of the possibilities but i think her and harry. because i always thought that they liked each other before and i don’t know i think she might just see her and harry
August 4th, 2006 at 8:15 am
I’ve just remembered what I wanted to say! You know the ‘gleam of triumph’ in Dumbledores eyes after he was told that Voldermort used Harrys blood to rstore himself? Well, I had a thought! Most people think that Dumbledore could have been a Death Eater, but what if the blood cursed Voldermort in some way? I don’t know how, just sharing my thougts
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Jordan
August 4th, 2006 at 8:34 am
Jordan – Yeah thats wat i thought it does say that, but y wuld dumbledore be bad?
August 4th, 2006 at 11:10 am
Exactly – Dumbledore wouldn’t be bad, so there must be a deeper meaning to the ‘gleam of triumph’ in his eyes.
August 4th, 2006 at 11:13 am
Or maybe the stupid gleam of triumph doesn’t mean anything.
August 4th, 2006 at 1:44 pm
i was just wondering if we could take a few comments to try and figure out what the new book title could be. we can discuss it and enter that guess the title and win thing. it’s just that we’ve sorta been going over the same things the whole time like dumbledore being dead and who will be with who. so let’s mix it up and put in new ideas and comments
August 4th, 2006 at 6:33 pm
Lynah–
Yeha good idea. But what title and win thing?
August 4th, 2006 at 6:35 pm
Lynah–
Nevermind I see what you mean!
So any possibilites? I’m kinda at a writers block =]
August 4th, 2006 at 7:29 pm
To be honest, I have no idea what the title could be! But I’m sure Jo’ will make the title name something that isn’t to do with the main plot (Half blood Prince and Goblet of Fire are good examples, the Prince isn’t the main part of the story in Book 6, and in Goblet of Fire, the Triwizard tournament was the main event), so I doubt the title will be something like ‘Harry Potter and the Quest for Horcruxes’. It’ll be something that is beside the point. Also, Jo’ thought of the title whilst in the shower. Mabye a title to do with water? I doubt it, but it is a well educated guess
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Jordan
Off to bed, I’m British!
August 4th, 2006 at 8:10 pm
I think the 2 characters killed off will be Wormtail and Snape. Because Dumbly said Wormtail owed his life to Harry so I think he will die to save Harry. But i dunno about Snape I just have a hunch.
August 4th, 2006 at 11:43 pm
The Other Chosen One I think Harry’s aunt will die and Wormtail(I’m not including Voldemort since Im almost postive he’s going to die?
August 5th, 2006 at 8:13 am
She said at least two characters would die, not just two. My guesses are:
Luna Lovegood – Voldermort will try to kill Harrys loved ones, and Malfoy saw Harry and Luna together at Slughorns party.
Ron or Hermione – Best friends of Harry, their deaths would be a serious dent in Harrys confidence.
Ginny – I am not 100% sure that Ginny will die, I think their is a chance that she will live because I’m not sure Slytherins knew that Harry and Ginny were going out.
Voldermort – Voldermort will DEFINITLY die, even if Harry does (which I think is doubtful) because Good must Triumph against evil in a world like Harry Potter. IF it didn’t Jo’ would be very unpopular, though she did mention that she may continue writing other books with a pen name(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pen_name. Mabye she fears that if evil wins in her most popular book series people won’t buy her other books.
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Jordan
August 5th, 2006 at 9:28 am
I think Malfoy will turn good. Because when Dumbly offered it to him he never specifically said no he was jsut making up excuses. I think the onyl reason he didn’t say yes because the DE were on their way and plus we was still afraid Voldy would kill him.
August 5th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
y did dey shut down the last comments page- hey it was a little harsh but dats life.
neway i personally think snape is bad- i mean i no deres loads of stuff saying hes good but there are just as many saying otherwise. its a matter of perspective and i dont trust him.
August 5th, 2006 at 1:52 pm
I don’t think that Snape was with or against Dumbledore. I think that Snape is neutral, and he just wants people to think he’s the best.
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Jordan
August 5th, 2006 at 2:22 pm
yea probably! snape’s up himself, he thinks he perfect i agree with you jordan he probably wanted evry1 do think hes on theyre side!
August 5th, 2006 at 2:38 pm
Fergie–
I see where your coming from.
I’m getting pretty bored with this site. I mean all we tlak about is whether Snape’s good/bad, horcruxes, Dumbly, and RAB. Let’s get some other topics in here like Lynah said.
And DUMBLY IS GONE, JK SAID IT HERSELF.
August 5th, 2006 at 3:19 pm
ok – new topics- whos ur fave character- if u say harry- well duhhhhh- mines is hagrid cos he introduces u into the magic world- and hes in every book- and is important in 1 way or the other
August 5th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
Yeah, I’ve always liked Hagrid aswell. My favorites are
Hagrid – Just a likeable character
Dumbledore – A bit me-ish, brainy, wise (sorry for the lack of modesty)
Hermione – Just like me, a know-it-all.
Voldermort – (listens for gasps) Well, we wouldn’t have the Harry Potter series without him, would we?
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Jordan
My birthday in just under 40 mins (according to GMT time) so I’m logging off. 6th of August in just under 40 mins! Woo.
August 5th, 2006 at 11:29 pm
The Other Chosen One im not saying tour wrong but I thnk Dumbledore is alive. I think we will see him in bk7
August 6th, 2006 at 8:50 am
no j.k sed herself in an interviewn he is really dead
August 6th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
yea we looked! mugglenet is brilliant is reli good for infomation on the 7th book.
August 6th, 2006 at 1:41 pm
Look at the top of this page ^^^^^^^^^^^^“What will be the title of the 7th book in the Harry Potter series: Harry Potter and the Parseltongue Trophy or Harry Potter and the Great Revelation?
August 6th, 2006 at 2:59 pm
Great Revelation sounds better
August 6th, 2006 at 3:55 pm
oh and happy birthday Jordan!!
August 6th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
i don’t think that it will be either of those two titles. i think it will be something of the main conflict. like the sorceror’s stone was the main conflict in book one, same with book two and three and their titles. the climax of the story always had to do with whatever is described in the story. so i think it might be something like the place where they will fight. because they haven’t had a title named after a place yet. so maybe where harry and voldemort have the final duel will be the name of the last book
August 6th, 2006 at 6:54 pm
comments please
August 6th, 2006 at 7:46 pm
happy birthday jordan
August 6th, 2006 at 8:09 pm
heres a new topic. where do you think the final battle will take place at
August 6th, 2006 at 8:13 pm
i think it will end up at hogwarts
August 6th, 2006 at 8:17 pm
i wonder if they will ever find whats in that secret room they couldnt get into at the ministry of magic in the 5th book.
August 6th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
I think Harry’s parnets will help him in his finla battle against Voldemort like in the Goblet of Fire except with some more stuff
August 6th, 2006 at 9:45 pm
Just Maby I dont think they will unless it has something to do with Voldemort
August 7th, 2006 at 2:37 am
My fav. characters r Fred n George… lol I think I’ve said so be4. Anyways I think the last fight will take place at Godric’s Hollow. I Think Sirius n Dumbly r both gone cause I read in an interveiw tht JK cried when she killed sirius….. so I think he’s gone 4 good. N as 4 Dumbly yah……. he’s just umm…. dead???
August 7th, 2006 at 5:59 am
I think that the final battle will take place in somewhere like the graveyard (not the graveyard, but similar surrondings). I like the thoughts that pugman had about Harry’s parents helping him
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Jordan
Ni-ni Says:
oh and happy birthday Jordan!!
Thanks Ni-ni
August 7th, 2006 at 7:22 am
i think the final battle will take place at the riddle house or somewhere like that- i wonder will the battle take place on harrys terms or voldemorts
August 7th, 2006 at 9:20 am
i think it will be on harrys terms
August 7th, 2006 at 10:45 am
Lynah–
Love your idea about the climax of the story being the title. I think it would be sooo cool if they fought at like Godric’s Hollow or Azkaban.
But I def think it will be somewhere extremely important.
Favorite Characters–
Red and George– I am def a joker, always laughing, pulling pranks the whole deal. Luuuuurve them.
Ron– I love his sarcasm and how he flirts with Hermy so badly.
Sirius– Loves how he is a brother and father to Harry.
Just Mayb–
The only info we have on that room is that it holds the most powerful magic.
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Happy Birthday Jordan! We’re August babies…Mines on the 20th. 13 years old, baby. Holw old r u?
August 7th, 2006 at 12:31 pm
Jordan- thats quite alright!
for the name of the new book _ harry potter and godricks hollow ??!
August 7th, 2006 at 12:39 pm
just a thought i mean he said he’s gowing bak there insted of gowin bak 2 hogwarts soo i duno i mean theres alot to do with godricks hollow and his parets and stuff
wa’d you think?
August 7th, 2006 at 1:21 pm
well pepole how about this the final battle will be in the room which we know nothing about
August 7th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Pugman–
I don’t think it will be in that room. I think it will be highly significant.
Ni-Ni—
I think Harry will go back to Hogwarts and also go to Godric’s Hollow. I mean all the books are in Hogwarts and everyhting and I htink it will be a hge disappointment if this one he’s jsut traveling thrughout the place looking for horcruxes. Maybe he’ll go to Hogwarts to attend school, learn to fight DEs or maybe he’ll decide not to come back but then find out a horcrux is hidden there, so he will. I dunno all possibilities.
August 7th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
The Other Chosen One -
yea i think the last horcrux is at hogwarts wat i ment was hes might not go bak to learn at hogwarts if u get me
August 7th, 2006 at 1:47 pm
although like Harry Potter and the Unknown Room or like Unknown Army if dumbledore got a bunch of creatures he didn’t know of how how about just Harry Potter and the Priori Incantatem because that will be a problem. i don’t know but let’s get some ideas in here
August 7th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
did dumbledore not say in ootp that that room contains love or sumthin like dat- maybe dat will be the thing dat kills voldemort
August 7th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
Sorry but what room are you onnabout ? im confused :S
August 7th, 2006 at 2:08 pm
well dumbledore didn’t say anything about the room having love. that’s just what people thought. dumbledore said that the room is full of a different kind of magic and i do think it is love. but the room that we’re talking about is when harry, luna, ginny, hermione, and ron were running from the death eaters in the ministry of magic. and they would mark the doors they went through with fiery X’s but there was a door that wasn’t marked and it was the only locked one
August 7th, 2006 at 2:13 pm
well i think Harry will go back to school but maybe the next DADA will be Dumbledore’s brother
August 7th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
i think jk said that harry will go and see Azkaban
August 7th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
what if there is a horocrux at Azkaban
August 7th, 2006 at 4:05 pm
lynah- oh right thankyou, but when harry used sirius’s knife to try and unlock the door the blade melted soo … i duno, love is a good idea thou
Only thing is how did they put love in the room its neither sloid or liquid its a feeling
August 7th, 2006 at 10:26 pm
that’s a good question. there’s only one solution, it’s a soquid. no i’m just kidding idk it is a good question though. maybe it’s something else like perhaps it’s where all the souls go that went through the viel maybe
August 8th, 2006 at 1:02 am
I think there’s the world of the after life there………… remember sayin tht they were studyin Stuff like tht there in the DOM ????????
August 8th, 2006 at 6:01 am
maybe but if dats true – is it possible sirius could find is way back through the veil to the world of the living since he still has his body
August 8th, 2006 at 6:09 am
well i dont know,we don’t know where the people go if they fall behind the veil but luna and harry could here voices behind the veil wen they were looking for sirius
soo i’m not sure there :s
August 8th, 2006 at 6:25 am
Harry Potter and the H.B.P -
[[ Slughorn, Harry and Dumbledore ]] Pg.65
‘What gave it away?’ he grunted as he staggered to his feet, still rubbing his lower belly. He seemed remarkably unabashed for a man who had just been discovered pretneding to be an armchair.
‘My dear Horace,’ said Dumbledore, looking amused, ‘if the Death Eaters had really come to call, the Dark Mark would have been sent over your house.’
‘The Dark Mark,’ he muttered ‘Knew there was something…ah well. Wouldn’t of had time to do it anyway.’
Ok, perhaps Slughorn used to be a death eater i mean, only death eaters do the dark mark. Maybe Slughorn is R.A.B because only 4 people we know of know about the horcruxes and maybe thats why Slughorn was in hiding because the Death Eaters and Voldemort think he’s dead and didn’t want 2 be found out!
just an idea – what do u think?
August 8th, 2006 at 8:46 am
whats the time diffo between america and wales? is it like 7 hours ?
August 8th, 2006 at 10:13 am
Ni-ni i think we wne tover that its possible but money is on Regulus Black b/c we never really knew if he died
August 8th, 2006 at 10:49 am
Pugman – yea maybe ur moneys on reglus but i think it might b slughorn and were all intitled to our own opinion !
August 8th, 2006 at 11:40 am
ni-nis rite!! .. ho welse wud he of know how 2 unja the dark mark if he wasnt once a death eater.
and he knows about horcrukes .. and its their not in books. how wud he know about em? … and y was he in hiding ?
August 8th, 2006 at 11:42 am
i think the 7th books gona b called harry potter ansd thr last horcrux (withut my dodgy spelin tho)…
August 8th, 2006 at 11:45 am
u know the room that cudnt open by the knife tha aparently opens any door .. in the room is full with love. its not a matta of how it got in ther .. if they knew how they got it in ther .. its not such a ‘mystery’..in the department is it. i duno if im rite or wa im sayin is bull but ther we go
August 8th, 2006 at 11:49 am
u know up ther^^ rte at the top it ses harry potter and the parsletounge trophy … u no where it ses in the 5th book the nomble and most ancient house of black .. it also ses sumin else…but we dont know wat it meens .. maybe thas wa it ses on the trophy .. but i neva knew pasletounge has letters .. i thort it was only spoken as mostly only used to tlk 2 snakes. snakes cant reed :S
August 8th, 2006 at 11:54 am
sorri if i dnt make sence
August 8th, 2006 at 12:41 pm
becca u don’t make any sence at all! :S !!
August 8th, 2006 at 1:43 pm
thanx nia lol
August 8th, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Ni-ni take a chill pill i wasnt shooting your theory down about Slughorn all I was saying is we know probaly more about Slughorn than Regulus Black
August 8th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
sorii pugman i will indeed ‘take a chill pill’ all i was saying was were intitled to our own opinion and thats myne
August 8th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
guys don’t start arguing and all that because anton shut down the old one because of all that so let’s keep this a nice site to share ideas
August 8th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
i think it will be “Harry Potter ond the Fortress of Shadows”. read it somewhere and it sounded cool.
August 8th, 2006 at 5:16 pm
well my mom got me this book on theories on bk 7 ie names of bk7 and other stuff if you guys want me to post the nems let me know
August 8th, 2006 at 9:12 pm
i think it will be called harry potter and the great rebellion. or harry potter and the great war
August 8th, 2006 at 9:33 pm
I know this wont happen as all of you know probaly in retun of the jedi when luke almost went to the dark side blah blah i kinda hope that happens in bk7
August 8th, 2006 at 9:51 pm
pugman-
yeah that would be freakin sweet
what was that book though that your mom got you cause i wanna get that man. and sure list some of the names
August 9th, 2006 at 12:07 am
Lynah go to amzon and search the 7 harry potter
August 9th, 2006 at 12:07 am
i think youll know which bookm it is it has a big 7 on it
August 9th, 2006 at 4:21 am
The Other Chosen One
Happy Birthday Jordan! We’re August babies…Mines on the 20th. 13 years old, baby. Holw old r u?
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I turned 13 on the 6th.
I’ve had an idea. In a recent interview Jo’ said that she thought of a new title for book 7 whilst in the shower. Mabye the title will be something to do with water?
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Jordan
August 9th, 2006 at 8:01 am
pugman what kind of theorys does it say
August 9th, 2006 at 8:14 am
Jordan -
yea i read that somwere aswell about the name of the thing soo like wats special about water that might come up in the book ?
August 9th, 2006 at 8:16 am
lynah- i wasnt arguin with pugman i was just tryin to prove a poiint – that were all intitled to our own opinion
August 9th, 2006 at 11:29 am
i wonder if harrys dad had any brothers or sisters. does it say newhere in the book if he had?
August 9th, 2006 at 12:03 pm
no it doesnt, but if he had we would know dont u think?
August 9th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
noo he was an only child i just read it in O.O.T.P
sirius ran away and went to jameses and he ses sumthin like ‘they sort of adopted me as theyre second child’
soo i dont think he had any bros/sis
August 9th, 2006 at 2:45 pm
dus any1 hav an idea of wat ALL the 6 horcruxes r ?
August 9th, 2006 at 2:49 pm
numba 22 – jordan -
yeh tha makes loadsa sence!! gd1
August 9th, 2006 at 3:19 pm
no were not sure yet
August 9th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
oohh iya ni!:P
August 9th, 2006 at 6:56 pm
hey guys I’m in Buffalo New York for swimming nationals!
and it looks like theres like 50 new posts and I dont have time to read them all so can sum one gimme the cliff notes on em lol.
or if u dont know what cliff notes are just a short lil summary of whats been going on =]
sooo I’ll bb for good on like Sundayishhh. Talk to ya’ll then.
Nikkkkkkkkkkkkay!
August 10th, 2006 at 1:41 am
DANG!!!! i leave for two months and WOAH!!! wow anyways am i the only one who heard that Jk. Rowling said that only TWO people are dying? and haha we ALL know that Voldemort is one of those people! but whos the OTHER? hmmmmm….well i think its harry…still…im sorry but i do. if its ron…. darnit…hermione…darnit…ginny.
no im kidding…darnit….snape? if hes good then darnit….malfoy? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO….lol…umm…neville….oh snap….seamus….hmm….i dunno….voldemort? ::begins to throw a party:: lol…umm…McGonagall?…that sucks…she was a bit nice…Hagrid…PSSSH!!! Jk Rowling aint right if she do dat! Vernon? who CARES? dudley…dont care! Petunia? i GUESS i would care just a LITTLE bit. Hedwig? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…..:takes breath:: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Fred and George? SHED BETTER NOT! Lucius? HALLELUAH!!!! thats all got…lol….
August 10th, 2006 at 1:47 am
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHH i got a theory!!!! no its not about death! lol…its about Krum…what if….get this…what if Krum is now a dark wizard? no i mean what if krum BECOMES a dark wizard? and he likes hermiojne right? he kissed her right? maybe…maybe hermione likes krum still….MAYBE…and umm…he sides with voldemort, but she and the others dont know it and he uses hermione to get to Harry for voldemort? its just a theory…or not really a theory…just an opinion..or not really an opinion…but a suggestion…..or not really a suggestion but a thought…yea..a thought…lol
August 10th, 2006 at 5:57 am
Actually, she said that two people died that she didn’t intend to die. My guess is Fred and George because there whole family are blood traitors, and shop keepers are getting kidnapped left, right and centre. But on her website there is an FAQ page, and when asked if their will be more deaths she simpily replied ‘Yes. Sorry.’
There will be many more Deaths to come. Also, in response to bexioo I think that the Horcruxes are:
Diary (DESTROYED)
Slytherins’ locket (Taken by R.A.B, possibly been destroyed)
Gaunts Ring (DESTROYED)
Hufflepuffs Cup
Nagini the Snake (I’m not entirley sure about this one)
I’m not sure about the seventh one, perhaps when Dumbledore said ‘Voldemort liked to collect trophys’ mabye he litterally means that he liked to collect trophys. Mabye his Special Services to the Schools Award?
For those who have a theory about the Sorting hat being a horcrux, you are WRONG! Jo’ has confirmed the the Sorting Hat is not a Horcrux on her official site.
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Jordan
August 10th, 2006 at 1:09 pm
Jordan -
yea shopkeepers in Diagonally are gettin kidnapped buuuutttt (big but!) if Fred and George die thennn more than two people die! and that meens harry and voldemort don’t die, or doo more than 2 die? ohh im not sure actually but just a thought …
Anna -
Yooo seem awsum!
August 10th, 2006 at 5:55 pm
guys let me just say not to be mean at all jk said 2 that she didnt expect at first to die theres still a great chance for more than 2 characters to die
August 10th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
hey jordan..thats a good point!!!! maybe it IS his services to the school award!!! i NEVER thought of that. and it might be his trophy for getting hargrid expelled and getting away with opening the chamber!!! and did you say i seemed awsome jordan? if you did…THANK YOU!!!!!!! lol oh and i hope that fred and george dont die…ill be very upset…but then again, they did create those shield things, so voldemort might want them.
August 11th, 2006 at 3:40 am
I HOPE FRED N GROTGE DONT DIE……. I DON’T CARE much ABOUT WHO ELSE DOES…… BUT PLZ PLZ PLZ NOT FRED N GEORGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 11th, 2006 at 6:16 am
lol !
August 11th, 2006 at 6:19 am
well at least 2 ppl die innit!!
1)harry or voldimort(definatly)
but what im thinking is if harry nd co aint gowin bk 2 skwl .. then were notgona hear much about skwl .. maybe nothing!! so … its probly 1 or 2 or maybe 3+ of the MAIN characters tha die … harry, hermione, ron, fred, george, mr + mrs weasly maybe!!
August 11th, 2006 at 6:22 am
harry, hermione, ron, fred, george, mr + mrs weasly etc****
August 11th, 2006 at 6:23 am
wat about lupin and tonks and bill and mad-eye>?
August 11th, 2006 at 6:43 am
yh their classed as main charactrs ni … and come 2 think of it .. lupin aint getin any stronger!! maybe he dies (hmm)
August 11th, 2006 at 8:49 am
I’ve just been thinking about the rumors that Jo’ confirmed are NOT true, and she said that Pettigrew’s silver hand won’t kill Lupin, but she did say that Pettigrew’s life debt to Harry will come into play. I think that Fenrir Greyback (the Werewolf that bit Lupin) will try to attack Harry, and Pettigrew will save him, which will make him a traitor to Voldemort and will perhaps come back to the good side. Jo’ also said that Draco Malfoy would fight alongside Harry for a while, but something will happen that makes him go against Harry. Mabye Draco thinks that if Voldemorts servant can go back to the good side, (at the end of Book 6, The Half Blood Prince, it was obvious that he wanted to go back to the good side, but couldn’t because of fear of being murdered) but because Voldemorts servant has left him, Draco thinks he can to. But mabye Pettigrew gets forgiven and Draco wants to go back to Voldemort. Just a thought.
Half of this probably won’t make sense, but oh well
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Jordan
Oh, Anna, Ni-ni said that she thinks you seem awesome, but everyone here is awesome to me and that includes you
August 11th, 2006 at 10:29 am
lol! im mentioned
!! …. only my namee thou!
lol
Jordan – yea good idea ! but why did people start thinkin that petigrew was guna kill sonebody with his hand anyways? i meen wats so important about a metal hand ?
August 11th, 2006 at 11:46 am
Well, people say that you can only kill a werewolf with a silver bullet, and as wizards don’t use guns people think that the silver hand must have something to do with it.
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Jordan
August 11th, 2006 at 1:44 pm
ohh right!! well if warewolves only exist in the wizarding world then how do wizards know they can only be killed by a silver bullet if a gun is a muggle object?
August 11th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
It’s a real legend, and has been in many books, and many authors have used this idea and other similar ideas to make their books better.
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Jordan
Oh, and what about muggle borns? They know what a gun is
August 12th, 2006 at 5:08 am
I think you may be interested in this http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=a1b39e4e-078b-4e0d-8b6d-8e2176d11955&f=imbot_us_m_1417&fg=rss
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Jordan
August 12th, 2006 at 5:39 am
ohh yea! lol okk ..
August 12th, 2006 at 5:43 am
Bexi-boo – y’know the other day wen u sed vodemort might of planted the note in the horcrux? Well … i don’t think he did because the loocket had no markings of S on it and it was much smaller than the one harry saw in the pensive soo .. good idea thou ! x
August 12th, 2006 at 5:47 am
Bexi-oo*
August 12th, 2006 at 6:28 am
Ahh! this things gone al weird :S ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh …
August 12th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
what do you mean “this things gone all weird”?
what’s wrong with it?
August 12th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
We know that there are 12 uses for Dragon Blood and that Dumbledore became a noted wizard for finding all of them. Therefore, I don’t think we should just gloss over the fact that Aragog’s venom is so valuable – 100 Galleons a pint! – and that Slughorn is now in the posession of some of that venom.
so i think that the venom might be used in some way to help harry out.
by the way what are the twelve uses of dragon blood
August 13th, 2006 at 5:03 am
lynah -
i meen it was all blurry and muckign up all the time lol
August 13th, 2006 at 7:26 am
Apparently, we find out all 12 uses of Dragons Blood in book 7 and one of them is – wait for it…OVEN CLEANER!
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Jordan
But what could Aragogs venom be used for? 10 pints would be worth the same as Harry’s Triwizard winnings, so it’s got to be important. Perhaps it’s so expensive becuase of the difficulty of obtaining it, and nothing else.
August 13th, 2006 at 8:50 am
Jordan -
waw! how’d ya find tha out??
Oven cleaner? reallyyyy …
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Ni-niii
August 13th, 2006 at 10:39 am
It was on every Harry Potter 7 site I went to lol. I’m waiting for somebody to talk about something else, I’m in the mood for a really long theory lol.
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Jordan
August 13th, 2006 at 11:43 am
ok guys i was reading OoTP and Voldemort said Dumbledore you dont know how death is and Dumbledore said there anre many things worse than death(this is not the same wording it is close to it) what do you think he ment by this(dumbledore)
August 13th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
The meaning of this is explained. Dumbledore explained to Harry that their are many things worse than death, such as to be so close to death, just a thread away, but you can’t reach it. Imagine being in a car accident, and you have the Philosophers Stone. You are so close to death, but you have been taking the Elexer of Life from the Philosophers Stone, so you are immortal. The Philosophers Stone cann’t heal woulds, so every moment is filled with pain and suffering, like a never ending migraine (I suffer from migraines, so I find this the perfect example.)
I can’t really explain it in much depth, but basically, most people would preffer to die rather that be just a soul that is neither living nor dead.
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Jordan
Horcruxes kept Voldemort away from death when baby Harry tried to destroy him, but he was neither living nor dead because the curse would have killed Voldemort if he had no protection.
August 13th, 2006 at 9:52 pm
Hey guys I’m back from New York/Zones. I did bad lol
Soooo looks liek there has been like 50 new posts since I was last on here and I don’t have time to read all of them. Could someone give me a little summary of whats been going on?? kthxbye!
August 13th, 2006 at 9:54 pm
By the way…you can also use pixie droppings for oven cleaner =]
August 14th, 2006 at 2:07 am
Pugman–
I think we will find out whats worse than death in the 7th book and I think whatever it is will happen to Voldy.
August 14th, 2006 at 2:07 am
Pugman–
I think we will find out whats worse than death in the 7th book and I think whatever it is will happen to Voldy.
August 14th, 2006 at 2:09 am
Jordan-
Sorry if I alrdy asked you but what are ur thoughts on RAB and Snape?
August 14th, 2006 at 6:56 am
This is probably totally ridiculas but,I,ve been trying to find a reason for Dumbledore to still be alive.Way up on this site I read a theory that Ableforth might have taken Dumbledores place.I then gave my opinion that I didnt think Dumbledore would be weak or selfish enough to let another die in his place.My new idea is this.Dumbledore asked Hagrid to take his place by drinking polyjuice potion.Hagrid was missing at the start for ages,he says its because he was with the giants but I dont believe it took him quite as long as he said it did.There was also that very interesting moment when Dumbledore was showing Harry one of his own memories and instead of extracting it from his head he took it from a bottle.It is possible it was in there for safe keeping but,its definately a good point,you see Dumbledore normally extracts his memories from his head,but if it was somebody pretending to be him they,d have to take the memory from a bottle.And the final thing,Hagrid can not be affected by wizard curses so Dumbledore wouldnt have been risking Hagrids life by asking him to swap places with him.Well thats it.I know is stupidly far fetched but it just something to keep me distracted while Im waiting for the next book.
August 14th, 2006 at 8:33 am
jk said it her self dunbledore is dead
August 14th, 2006 at 11:11 am
livin its a cool theory but yeah like just maby said Dumbleodre is dead but there is one problem in your theory if HAgrid was Dumbledore for a lng time how did they get to the horcrux(i know how they got their i know Dummbldore took him and harry there)
August 14th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
Okay guys we know Dumbly is dead JK said it herself so lets get off the topic.
I think Draco will play a huge part in book 7. I think he will turn good, but I’m not too sure about his parents. I mean his mother seems like she’ll go to extremes to make sure Draco is not hurt/killed.
What do you think?
August 14th, 2006 at 1:54 pm
The Other Chosen One -
Well yeah, i mean any mother would go to extreme lengths too protect theyre child , but what can Lucius do while he’s locked up in Askaban? I meen with no Dementors therer its pretty easy for the death eaters to help Lucius get out eh?
I’d also like to know HOW Sirius escaped from Askaban? or does it say somewhere in the books?
August 14th, 2006 at 3:14 pm
Ni-Ni–
Uhm yes I agree it will be very easy for Lucius to get out. And yes haf the ending for the third book is how he escaped with Pettigrew, etc, etc.
Have you even read the books?
August 14th, 2006 at 3:15 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you…Tonks.
http://www.mugglenet.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1898&pos=1
August 14th, 2006 at 4:45 pm
she looks a good actress but she looks sensible – i expectd tonks to be a bumbling funny (almost comical) woman
August 14th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
i just read someone say “JK said that Dumbledore is dead.” and yes “Dumbledore” is. but which one is it that’s dead. Albus or Aberforth?
August 14th, 2006 at 7:23 pm
Lynah–
I betcha if hes still alive thats the loophole. =]
August 15th, 2006 at 1:29 am
I dont think jk would say dumbledore (meaning Albus)is dead she knew what we ment
August 15th, 2006 at 6:11 am
The Other Chosen One -
Yes i have read the books i just didnt really like the first and second book, i’ve read the 3rd one 2wice and atm i keep re-reading the 5th and sixth too find out some clues
August 15th, 2006 at 7:03 am
The Other Chosen One – My thoughts on Snape and RAB are : I’m not pointing my finger at Regulus, but RAB is definitly a Black. In the Deutch version, RAB is RAZ and Black in Deutch is Zwart. The same is in all other versions, a letter in RAB has been changed if Black is somethign else in that language. So, he (or she) is definitly a Black
As for my views on Snape, Jo’ has tangled this web up very well. But I think he is neutral, I think he is neither good or bad. Basically, I just think he wants to hang around with the biggest bullies in the playground (Sirius’s words to Pettigrew in Prisoner of Azkaban). He doesn’t care who wins, who loses, he just wants to make sure he’s on the winning side. He planned this very carefully from the moment Voldemort came to power, and I admire Jo’ for her work on Snape.
And to answer Ni-ni’s question about how Sirius escaped from Azkaban, the only reason he didn’t go mad like everyone else was because he had no happy thoughts to be sucked out of him. Then he saw Pettigrew in the Daily Prophet, and that gave him strength. It wasn’t a happy thought, it was an obsession that kept him going. Eventually he managed to transform and he slipped through the bars and escaped. Dementors are blind, they can only pick up emotions, and they can’t feel animal emotions as strongly as humans.
I like that loop-hole, where she said ‘Dumbledore’ is dead, but not any ‘Dumbledore’ specifically. She said that Aberforth would play a big role, but she also said that she would be introducing no new characters. RAB could still be Regulus because he has been introduced by name, but Aberforth has never once been mntioned in the books.
You’ve got to read the first and second books a few times to appreciate them. My favorite book is Prisoner of Azkaban, I’ve read it 11 times so far. The fastest I’ve read it is one day (not so fast, but I only read for a bit in the morning, then continued at night). The most well written books are the last two, but I think Prizoner of Azkaban has a better story line. I’m reading all the books continuously until the next one comes out, so I’m sure I’ll discover everything before Book 7 comes out.
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Jordan
August 15th, 2006 at 10:40 am
on the site called ‘DUMBLEDORE IS NOT DEAD’.theres an interview with Jk on it.All of you are saying that she said Dumbledore is definately dead which is completely right,she did say that,but,in the question before that a boy asked her(word for word)
‘In a recent interview you hinted at two main characters dying and possibly Harry Potter too.Was Dumbledore considered one of the main characters or will we have the chance to see him in action once again?Since he is the most powerful wizard of all time and Harry Potter is so loyal to him,how could he realy be dead?
She replies…
‘I feel terrible.The British writer Graham Green once said that every writer had to have a chip of ice in their heart.Oh no,I think I may have just ruined my career.Umm I really cant answer that question because the answer is in book seven but you shouldnt expect Dumbldore to do a Gandalf,let me put it that way.Im sorry.’
But straight after that another auther challenges her about Dumbledores death and thats when she says Dumbledore is definately dead.
My point is that a young boy would probably not get the hidden meaning in her answer as easily as a fellow auther would.So I believe she may have lied to the auther just to keep on safe grounds.
Heres an example.. If you bought your best friend the thing he/she most wanted for their birthday and it was a surprise…they ask if you got them the thin… would you lie and say you didnt to keep the surprise or would you tell them they got it right and ruin the surprise?
August 15th, 2006 at 10:42 am
sorry i meant thing not thin.
August 15th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
livin it-
i’d defoonitly keep it a surprise and thats a really good idea
Ni-ni
August 15th, 2006 at 12:41 pm
I can’t see Jo’ lying about something like that though, but (there is a but) when she said ‘Don’t expect him to do a Gandalf’ that might just mean in the way in which he will come back, not that he doesn’t come back.
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Jordan
That video has caused more discussion than I thought lol
August 16th, 2006 at 12:21 am
Jordan–
Whoa the whole Dutch thing wtih RAB…that would make a lot of sense then.
Hha yeah my fav book is the 4 bc it just seems like everything ties in and everythign that happens affects something else [[i.e. Harry once sees an owl fly into Hogwarts...and that owl was the one Voldy sent to fake Moody to tell him Crouch has escaped]]. I’ve read that 11 times too…in one day! Lol we gotta lot in common.
Livin it–
You do make a good point about the birthday thing and it is convincing. But I did question myself, I mean JK has never lied yet about the books and she could have just kept her mouth shut or tangled her words [[so there was a loophole of sum sort]] to her answer but instead she said it flat out.
Just a thought– What would happen if one animagus was an owl…they could just slip in and outta Hogwarts unknown. I know its not important but hey–they can get in.
August 16th, 2006 at 5:13 am
I suppose if there were any animaguses who were owls they would be able to get into Hogwarts.Thats a cool idea.I wonder is it possible that Voldermort is an unregistered animagus,he is extremely powerful and it doesnt seem like him to not avail of every piece of magic he can use.Maybe he can change into a snake or something.
Im pretty sure Jk said that she would kill off as many characters as she wants.It has me worried,she said she’ll let us know what happens to the ‘SURVIVOURS’.
My suggestions of who might die…
Voldermort-Duh!
Belatrix-killed by Neville
Lucius-maybe by Draco after he turns good
Percy-by accident
Mad eye moody-dead in battle
I have just one more question,if anyone thinks the know the answer..
Im fairly sure that Harrys parants were pretty young when they died so isnt it strange that neither his mothers or his fathers parants were in contact with him?Is it possible that they are still alive or that he might even know them?
August 16th, 2006 at 7:30 am
Harrys grand parents must have also been killed during Voldemort’s reign of power. Also, Dumbledore said that The Dursleys were Harrys only living relatives. Aunt Marge isn’t related by blood, so she doesn’t count. Everyone kept Sirius quiet because they thought it might upset Harry, so he wasn’t told about him either (plus Sirius isn’t related by blood). And technically, James Potter is still alive inside Harry, because of Harry’s patronus.
I don’t know why, but I just had a crazy thought. Could Percy be a big part of Book 7? Mabye Jo’ wanted to get him out of the way for a while and then give him a massive part in Book 7, which would be a big surprise. And when Percy went to the Weasleys for christmas, why is his hair greying? At the age of either 20 or 21, he must be severly overworked to have hair greying. When Percy went to the Weasleys for christmas I think he was imperiused, or confunded. The Percy we know would be rambling of about thin-ness of wands, and boasting about having such an important role in the Ministry. Something wasn’t right about him there.
Yeah, I agree with livn it, many characters will be killed off.
The Other Chosen One – I didn’t used to like The Goblet of Fire, it bored me a bit, but it was an impressive piece of writing, how everything tied together. I’m currently reading it now, but I’ve only read 300 pages in 4 days because I don’t like it much. I would have read it in one and a half days if I found it enjoyeable, but I like to read and look for clues so I read it anyway.
I don’t think Lucius would be killed by Draco, Draco has to much respect for his father.
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Jordan
August 16th, 2006 at 8:53 am
Jordan -
Yes, maybe Percy was under the imperius curse but what would somebody want with him? Do you think Scrimgeour would do it so that he HAD a reason to go to the Weasleys and talk to Harry with out it looking to suspicious? And do you really think he would [[after everything that had been happening with the death eaters]] preform an unforgivable curse on an innocent man?
But later did he not storm out of the house? [Percy i meen]
Ahh, i just read a very frosty christmas again and it says -
Pg.320 – HBP -
And sure enough, the man harry had seen in the daily prophet was following along in Percy’s wake, limping slightly, his mane of greying hair and his black cloak flecked with snow.
Does that meen Percy’s hair was greying or the Minister Of Magic?
mmm, Jordan, it is a possibility that Percy was under the imperius curse … but i’m not yet completely convinced but i’ll bair it in mind …..
~ Ni-Ni ~
August 16th, 2006 at 10:14 am
You’re right Ni-ni, it does mean the minister. Sorry about that, I didn’t actually look in The Half-Blood Prince when I wrote that, it came from memory.
Half-Blood Prince, page 230
“Rufus Scrimgeour paused in the doorway, leaning on his walking stick and smiling as he this affecting scene.
‘You must forgive me for the intrusion,’ he said, when Mrs Weasley looked around at him, beaming and wiping her eyes. ‘Percy and I were in the vicinity – working, you know – and he couldn’t resist dropping in and seeing you all.’
But Percy showed no sign of wanting to greet any of the rest of the family. He stood, poker-straight and awkward-looking, and stared over everybody else’s heads. Mr Weasley, Fred and George were all observing him, stony-faced.”
He didn’t seem to exited to see him family to me. After not seeing his family for ages, he wouldn’t stand there, poker-faced would he? He would have some sort of expression on his face. And about Percy storming out, he’d always had a disliking for Fred and George, and anyone that caused trouble (in this case, that was Ginny.) so I think he would have stormed out of the house if he had been splattered with mashed Parsnip, imperiused or not. And he did leave once Rufus had finished talking to Harry, so the possibilitys are:
1) It was timed well, and Rufus thought that would be the perfect opportunity to leave, by making Percy storm out of the house.
2) Rufus did a non-verbal imperius on Fred, George and Ginny to create a chance for him to leave, the doing a non-verbal memory charm to make them forget the feeling that they had ever beem Impiriused (very unlikly, I know, but Jo’ is good with thse kinds of twists in her plots)
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Jordan
August 16th, 2006 at 2:44 pm
Sorry im not sure on how to spell i meant i’ll bare it in mind **
August 16th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
Livin It–
I think when asked about Harrys rents JK said she couldnt answer but I really hope if their still alive they will play a role in book 7 bc they were technically introduced alrdy in book 1.
Okay I just read what Jordan said and take it back bc yes Dumbly said he has no living relatives.
Jordan–
I do agree with you about Lucius. I mean even Draco had a hard time about killing Dumbly and he hated Dumbly. So even if he wanted to I don;t think he ccould bring himself to do it. But I do truely hope that he will turn good.
Yes now when I read the books [[with the exception of when I'm extremely bored and theres nothign else to do]] I read very slowly to pick up forshadowings, clues, etc, etc.
Yes I agree with Ni-Ni, JK said Percy wasn’t under the curse after book 5, but that is book 5 not book 6 and I can perfectly see Smigeour [[I can't spellllll]] doing a Unforgivalbe Curse [[Oh the shame!]] on him but I truely don’t think he did, but I will keep it in mind most definatly. BC there is nothign proving that he didn’t.
I really hope Bellatrix does get killed by Neville. I mean yes she killed Sirius and that was Harry’s almost brother like father sorta person but Neville just owns that right, bc it was her that made him live with his grandmother, her that made his life miserable, and her that took away his parents from him. I really really hope he kills her.
Another thought–
I think some of the spouses of teachers will somehow playa role. Or maybe we alrdy know the spouses, as another character, but we don’t know whos spouse they are. Does that make sense? BC when asked JK said she could not tell…
Perhaps Snape is married to Pro. Sprout? Hahah jk.
I wanna know who McGonagall is married to if she is married.
August 17th, 2006 at 5:48 am
I made a post before The Other Chosen One’s post, but it didn’t post. I’m not re-typing the whole thing, so I’ll just say a bit about it. If you read A Very Frosty Christmas (Pages 305-326, Half-Blood Prince) on page 320 Rufus said that Percy couldn’t resist dropping in, but a little down the page it says that he had no intention of greeting the rest of the family. But then what was the point of going to the Burrow if he didn’t want to see his family? Well, Rufus had a reason. He wanted Harry to help the Ministry, sort of be their “Poster Boy” to put it in Harry’s words, and it just that as soon as Rufus is finished Fred, George and Ginny splat Percy with mashed Parsley. Mabye Rufus did a non-verbal imperius on Fred, George and Ginny, then commanded them to do something to make Percy leave. You may be thinking “Hang on a minute, in Book 4 Crouch put the Imperius on all of them so they know the feeling.” Rufus could have just did a non-verbal memory charm so they forgot the feeling of being Imperiused. The he could have just commanded Percy to leave. Remember, Jo’ is extremly good with these sort of plots, she could have easily pulled it off. And Rufus said that they were just passing by. The Burrow is out of the way, no-one, wizard or muggle, would just be “passing by.” And a quote from Molly’s letter from The Goblet of Fire (Pae 32):
It would be best for Harry to send us your answer as quickly as possible in the normal way, because the Muggle postman has never delivered to our house, and I am not sure he even knows where it is.
The Burrow is out of the way, no-one would just be passing by.
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Jordan
Oh, and Jo’ said that in the seventh book a student and teacher will marry, but not to each other. (I think it was Jo’ that said it, but it might be a rumour off of an other site)
August 17th, 2006 at 9:52 am
Jordan,I think your right about the burrow being out of the way and its not likely that they would have been just passing by.I’m not so sure about Percy being put under the imperious curse though,yes,its definately a possibility but,given Percy’s history…he’s a total suck up! I’m sure if the new minister for magic asked him to do anything at all he’d probably do it.I dont think that Percy is bad but I think he would have a very hard time turning down responcibility or power.I think maybe Voldermorts going to get hold of him,and use him.Thats why he might get killed.
August 17th, 2006 at 11:19 am
I never thought about Voldemort getting hold of him, but I don’t think Percy would do anything for him. Percy isn’t thristy for power, he’s just fussy about rules. Deep down, he’d die for his family. But I suppose he would suck up to Rufus, so I guess he wouldn’t need to be Imperiused. Good thinking.
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Jordan
August 17th, 2006 at 3:08 pm
I think the whole Rufus/Percy imperisued is getting just a little far fetched for me. Though I do agree that whole visit is a bit suspicious and the Burrow is defanitly not “on the way” to anywhere, I don’t think that could have happened, tho I will def keep it in mind. Whoever said Percy needed to be under the curse? Rufus prolly said hey I need talk to Harry so you need to come with me so I have an excuse. Do you think he will turn down a favor from the MoM, who he deeply admires, just bc he doesn’t want to see his family. I don’t think so. And as for George and Fred and Ginny? They hate him! They called him git and they love pulling pranks, so they were just doing what they do best. And even if Percy was under the imperius curse why would Rufus have to put Fred and Geroge and Ginny under it bc he can just tell Percy that they had to go and he would follow. I’m sorry but it just doesn’t make sense.
August 17th, 2006 at 3:12 pm
Livin it -
Yea, your right, Percy didn’t need to be Imperiused he would defonitly do whatever anybody, that was higher in the job than he was, asked him to do. So if Scrimigeour asked him to go he would most defonitly go butt it’s still a possibility that he was still imperiused.
I also think that Voldemort might use Percy like he did with Bertha Jonkins, find out alot of infomation and after that [[possibly]] murder him, but only if Percy becomes close to the Weasleys again and becomes part of the Order.
Do you think the Order Of The Pheonix will continue even after Dumbledores death? I meen, he was the founder wasn’t he soo they might have to find somebody else to run it now, if soo who do you think that will be?
August 18th, 2006 at 5:20 am
Yes, Dumbledore was the founder but he wasn’t what we could call the ‘Leader.’ He respected everybody equally, so I don’t think he considered himself or anybody else the Leader. Yeah, of course it will continue. There is no reason to stop just because of his death. I’m sure the same rule applys for the Order as it does for the school.
“I will have only truly left when none here are loyal to me!”
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Jordan
August 18th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
who do you think will die in the next book?
August 18th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
I think most def the Order will continue. With Dumbly gone they will have to double their efforts seeing as the only one he ever feared is gone and I wouldn;t be surpirsed if the quadrupled their efforts in honor of Dumbly.
I think that quote “I will have only truly left when none here are loyal to me!†really does mean more than what it is. Like its more than meets the eye but I don’t know how yet.
Lynah–
I think Voldy most def will and sadly [[I love this family]] one of the of age Weasleys [[excluding Ron]].
Or instead of a Weasley, Wormtail, bc he owes his life to Harry. I think right when Harry’s about to die by Voldy Wormtial will sarafice himself.
I rly hope the Weasley prents don’t die bc I love them but JK said that one person that will die is Harry’s admirers.
August 18th, 2006 at 3:40 pm
The Other Chosen One -
Yes, I think that Mrs Weasley will die because most of Harry’s parenty figures have died for instance; His parents, Sirius and Dumbldore have all died [[Well we're still not sure on Sirius yet]]
I also think Lupin might die for some reason – Don’t ask why I just seem to have a hunch.
August 18th, 2006 at 4:34 pm
I want to know why potraits aren’t used more often. If Harry wants to ask Dumbeldore something, why not ask the portrait?
August 18th, 2006 at 4:40 pm
I also want to know something else. Dumbeldore said that the only thing of Gryfindor’s was the sword, but what about the Sorting Hat? “‘Twas Gryfindor who found the way, He whipped me off his head, the founder’s put some brains in me, so i could choose instead…” idk
August 18th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
well what about Collin Creevey? he was a huge admirer of Harry’s. but Neville was also a huge admirer of harry’s
August 18th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
My Name-
we already discussed that on the other webpage but i’m still not too sure about it. i think Dumbledore considered it as all four of the founders because they put their “brains” in the hat.
August 19th, 2006 at 6:07 am
lynah your righ, it was G.G BUT they put all of theyre brains in there soo its more like theres insted of his anyways My name if you thought it was a horcrux it probobly isnt because they dont draw attention to themselfs or like do anyting and well, frankly the sorting hat does
August 19th, 2006 at 6:07 am
i gota theory about horcruxes nd tha .. if harry destroys all the horcruxes …
but ea im thinkin is if harry has 2 kill voldi and all tha!! but he doesnt know how 2 do the killing curse .. as hes tried it b4! (i think) i think thers another way he could destroy voldi!
once he is immortal .. couldt he use a dementor 2 suk out tha last part of his soul!! as the other 6 parts r conseald in items! …
it probly doesnt make sence!! and i dont thik it rite or anything!! but its just a thort! xx
August 19th, 2006 at 6:11 am
Umm.. well the Dementors are on Voldemorts side now so they woudn’t suck out theyre masters soul, andd err i don’t think harry hass done Avada Kedavra i think hes only tried Crucio
But other wise its a good idea
August 19th, 2006 at 6:18 am
well the demontours r only on voldis side bcos he has sumin 2 offer him if the ministry hav somthing 2 offer aswell they mite go bk .. AND dementors can secne weekness ,.. sirus sed!! .. and if they can sence voldis gettin week as he only has a 7th of a soul left .. !! they mite realise !
i cut it down by about 3 aragraphs lol bcos i cudnt b bothad 2 re write it
August 20th, 2006 at 10:40 am
The order of phionix will continue……. any idea who the leader will be????……. i think … Lupin??? Molly or Lupin will die, cause tht’s the two Harry is most attached to.
August 20th, 2006 at 4:45 pm
how come no1 posts anything anymore?
August 21st, 2006 at 4:57 am
Bexico,I agree with you about Harry killing Voldermort.I think its unlikely that he’ll use the killing curse.Dont have a clue how he’s going to do it though.
Ni-ni, I know the dementors are on Voldermorts side at the moment but they havn’t really proven themselves to be very faithful creatures in the past,so they may still turn against him.
But I just know when Harry kills him its going to have to be something amazing,its going to be something we hav’nt seen before,remember its taken seven books to build up to the final moment,its not just going to be some quick spell.Oh and I think that a lot of people will witness his death so there will be no doubt as to what happened.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:10 am
Stupid theory but does anybody think that Harry might be royalty?
August 21st, 2006 at 7:32 am
i agree livn it
August 21st, 2006 at 2:23 pm
quick question:—>Wouldn’t part of Voldy’s soul have been destroyed when the killing curse bounced off of Harry>?
August 21st, 2006 at 2:25 pm
bexioo i think harry will make a spell(love)and it will kill voldemort
ps guys give me sparknotes ive been away
August 21st, 2006 at 2:36 pm
ok i just got on this site and i just wanna say as a harry potter fan,some of you dont know what ye are talkin about.seriously.i mean for example ‘SOMEONE’.did you not read the books???you dont seem to have…. but some of you DO have sense thankfully like ‘livinit’ and ‘kansas’ to name a few.. i just wanna say a few things for now
firstly ginny and harry are in love and right for each other,j k rowling wrote them together and i think maybe just maybe she knows what shes doin???hello.
secondly if anyone knows her style they will know she keeps each books information a close secret until they are released.i think she would do whatever it takes to keep it a secret even lie.because it makes it better for us all not knowing when it comes to it,and any good true author with love of the written word knows thats what its all about, so we can have our theories but the bottom line is only jk knows exactly how it will end, and i have never been disappointed by a book of hers before and wont be.so im happy to wait
August 21st, 2006 at 2:50 pm
i do have theories though.like i think as some people have mentioned petunia may be a squib.it would explain the treatment she gives harry etc. i dunno.also i think someone really close to snape was killed by voldemort,maybe a lover or only friend and snape is now on a mission to kill voldemort even if it meant doing all which he did,it links to the fact that snape could be r a b too.it would be fantastic if it ended with snape saying to voldemort (while harry kills him) ‘you fool.you trusted me even though iv denied you countless times!!.now harry and i together are stronger than you could even imagine,haha.feel the revenge us both.this is for those you took from us ”AVADA KEDAVRA”.
maybe its far fetched but maybe not
August 21st, 2006 at 3:41 pm
guys i think snape is evil look in bk1 the ch right before norbert shows snape talking to quillo(w/e i speeled his name wrong) but he siad to quillo(snaoe said this) you have to decided who you are loyal to. well this makes me think snape knew about voldemort maybe tell me what you guys think
August 21st, 2006 at 3:44 pm
uhm sry guys havent been here in ahile again, what r we tlaking about?
August 21st, 2006 at 4:05 pm
pugman, thats a very good point but i dont think so simply because snape could just have wanted quirell out of the school, therefore protecting harry,hurrying up the inevitable??
what you think?
August 21st, 2006 at 5:58 pm
Sarahius i just want to say that it in one of the books they explain that a squib is a regular person with wizard parents
August 21st, 2006 at 6:00 pm
but anyways sarahius i think your second theory of snape is really good.
August 21st, 2006 at 7:03 pm
i know what a squib is, i still think its possible that petunia is a squib and lily is a full blood wev just been led to think lily wasnt of wizard parents, but maybe it will turn out that she is,it explains petunias dislike for magic and harry etc,its just a theory!!!!
August 21st, 2006 at 7:27 pm
sarahius like i said go to bk1 read the last few pgs the one before norbert the dragon Snape said quillo should decided who he is loaly to(sry for the misspells)
August 21st, 2006 at 8:14 pm
My Name–
Yes I thought the same thing with Voldy but then I remembered that Dumbly said only when all Horcruxes are destroyed can the piece of soul in Voldys body be destroyed so no it has NOT been destroyed yet.
August 21st, 2006 at 8:15 pm
UHm what part of RECAP ON WHAT WE HAVE TLAKING ABOUT don;t you guys understand?! Lol Pugman and me asked.
August 21st, 2006 at 9:38 pm
i know guys just give us sparknotes its simple
August 21st, 2006 at 9:52 pm
to be honest people are talking about the same stuff we’ve been talking about since the site started =/
debating on whether snape is good or evil and wondering how harry will kill voldemort. that’s all i’ve read about but i only came back on the 18th. not that fun
August 21st, 2006 at 9:54 pm
i know it’s probably been discussed before but lets try to see what harry’s parents did or at least why he has so much money. i mean he got 1,000 galleons and acted like that was barely anything compared to the money he’s got, and he earned it from the Triwizard Tournament. they had to have a job bigger than something in the ministry i think
August 21st, 2006 at 9:59 pm
sorry that last one was sort of confusing
what i meant was that when he looked into his vault at gringotts it was filled with wizard money. and when he earned 1,000 Galleons from the TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT which is one of the biggest events in wizard history, he just handed it over like it didn’t even compare to the money he already has.
my main point is his parents had to have really good jobs to have that much money. so how could you think the potters got all that
August 21st, 2006 at 11:56 pm
back…. still listening…
August 22nd, 2006 at 12:03 am
…… Percy is being a douchebag in my view…. wut a rotten cigarette……
August 22nd, 2006 at 10:45 am
Lynah.I agree with you,we definately need to uncover what Harrys parants did for a living.It is always possible that one of them came from a rich family though,thats why I suggested they could be royalty.(as if Harry needed any more fame).But it definately would be cooler if the became rich because of their jobs.
Here are some ideas for jobs…
His dad was a great seeker,could have had a highly paid job involved somehow with quidditch.
They could have been aurors but thats too expected.
they could have invented something really important and useful.
One of them might have been a healer,I know doctors are highly paid but I dont know how it works in the wizarding world.
Finally,Sometimes when people have ordinary jobs they can become rich by just making the right decisions and saving really well.
So thats all I can think of for now,maybe if we go through all the muggle jobs we can come up with something that might be the same only involving magic.ie.a teacher.
August 22nd, 2006 at 11:50 am
those are good ideas. and to be honest i hope that james did play quidditch because that’d be pretty sweet for his ego you know? like famous athlete defends against the evil
August 22nd, 2006 at 1:09 pm
Thanks Lynah–
I think they were professors at Hogwarts or Aurors. And liek you guys said maybe he played Quidditch…Imena today you get paid big bucks to paly sports. Perhaps he /she/they could’ve inheirted it. I’m not sure but I hope we do find out.
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:09 pm
i thik if they were teachers dumbledore would of told Harry
August 22nd, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Saharius – Your theory on snape about Voldemort killin somebody he loved was cool, well some people think that he liked Lilly potter, its not on this site but on the old site people did think that. Personaly i dont thinkkk he did because he used 2 call her mudblood and things. And the bit about R.A.B being Snape… well i duno its a good idea anall but did snape know about the horcruxes? because soo far Slughorn, Dumbldore , harry and ron are the only people who know about [[ that we knwo of]]. or do you think Voldemort told him about them??
Livin it – itts a good idea about james/lilly being royalty but in the sixth book cant remember wat chapoter lupin told harry that there where noo royal family in the wizarding world, and as Lilly was muggle born her family could be royalty [[ Petunia certainly acts the role ]] but dont you think harry would of found out about it by now??
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:16 pm
first of all, pugman, snape is a double agent.so its just as possible he is on harrys side as voldemorts.he didnt know exactly about quirell he told dumbledore.and even if he did he would have to do the odd bad deed (ie encourage quirell)to keep voldemort thinking he is on his side, and all he was doing really as i said before was hurrying up the inevitable while he and dumbledore could supervise.its just a theory.
ni-ni i think you make some really good points, i dont know really for sure about the snape/r a b thing, its a mad theory i had, but it is possible snape knows, he is very clever and trusted.i dunno tho!!!
livin it you really make some great points, i seriously cant wait for book 7. just a few months more……
August 22nd, 2006 at 5:20 pm
maybe james or lily invented something!!!
but what???
something voldemort would want…maybe,but what and why??
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:06 pm
Lets remember tho that we think Slug knwos about the Horcruxes.
Is there anything that gives us the smallest hint that tells us what they could have done?
I’m re reading the whoel series yet again to check for Lily/James.
BTW whoever said Voldy/Snape liked Lily this is not true. JK said it herself about both characters. Yes Voldy said he would spare Lily but lets take a look at his other murders. There was always someone else blamed not him. So he would’ve just bewitched her into thinking she did it.
August 22nd, 2006 at 6:43 pm
i dont think there is any hint at all but thats jk rowling for you, mystery incarnate,
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:12 am
Ni-ni,that made me laugh when you said about Petuna acting like royalty,its definately true.
Pugman,Remember how guilty Dumbledore said he felt for always keeping secrets from Harry about the prophesy and all that? well even if Harrys parants were teachers Dumbledore may have had a reason not to tell him.I still like the quidditch idea the best though.
Sarahius,I had a simular idea about Petunia being a squib before,I think its a really cool idea.Like I said before I think there are loads of reasons for Dumbledore to keep secrets from Harry.
Think about it maybe theres a bigger reason,maybe hes actually keeping Voldermort from finding out information that might help him to defeat Harry,and he wont tell Harry any of the secrets because hes worried Voldermort will read his mind.
One last thing,I hate Voldermort so much,I cant wait to see the look on his face when Harry finally defeats him.
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:26 am
thanks livin it. i think your right.dumbledore does know that harrys mind can be read.
ni-ni coming back to the question u asked as to if voldemort told snape bout the horcruxes,i think maybe he did,like maybe snape got the word ‘horcrux’ from harrys mind and then went on to tell voldemort what harry knows, and voldemort explained to snape about them then.maybe…(so if/when snape betrays voldemort its extra special,as voldemort trusted snape even tho he left him before and denied him, and voldemort trusted him again,only to be killed!! and it would be his own fault.awesome…
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:40 am
Sarahius – Yeaa thats good, but say now that Snape did know about the horcruxes, and if he asked voldemort about them don’t you think that voldemort would of erased his memory or something i meen it doesnt say any where in the books that voldemort told any other death eaters and,as snape wasn’t really his favourite dont you think he’d of least told Wormtail ‘his most worthy servant’ first?? just a thought … but he could also know about them [[snape i meen ]] and he might also be R a b, but we’ll just have to wait i supose …
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:57 am
I think you guys have some interesting points about Snape and Voldermort .We wont find out till the end if Voldy truly trusts Snape or not but at the moment all signs definately point to yes.I disagree about Wormtail being his most worthy servant though.Voldermort said it himself,Wormtail only came back out of fear.So I dont think he,d confide any important thoughts or plans in Wormtail.
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:05 am
yeah wormtail is just a ’slave’ in voldemorts eyes. i dont think he trusts him, but he does trust snape seemingly despite everything.
also fact is this is a book about good vs evil and full of heroes etc. were all agreed on that right??
well ok if so are we all agreeing that harry is the main hero?
obvious? yes i think so.well basically bottom line is either voldemort or dumbledore was wrong to trust snape,and most likely the hero will not be wrong at the end
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:11 am
i know harry doesnt trust snape but dumbledore does and harry trusts him.he is his mentor and his role model etc and another hero in my opinion anyway.and i think given the type of book it is the heroes will win.
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:41 am
Sarahius – i think it would be a real shame if voldemort won and well books mostly are the good people win in the end! its predictable i know but thats what people want to hear and people wont want voldemort to win soo people will stop readding the books if thats wat happens but i think harry will win anyways!
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:49 am
anyone got any suggestions for the name of book 7 ?
here are a few from me.
harry potter and the solitary fight.
harry potter and the unbreakable force.
harry potter and the revelations
harry potter and the strenght of love
harry potter and the eternal bond
harry potter and the sacrafice
harry potter and the dark lord
harry potter and the final showdown
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:50 am
thats what i said ni-ni
i agree
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:51 am
yeah,theres usually an undercover good guy in these type of stories who helps win the battle for the main hero in the end.I know that Jk is differant and this isnt an ordinary book but its possible that Snape will turn out to be that guy.I agree ni-ni,it would encourage anyone to re-read the series if Voldermort won.So Im about 99.9% sure that he,l die.
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:54 am
Sarahius,good titles but I dont think JK will give away information about the final battle in the title.
Harry potter and the dark lord sounds the most possible.
Its simple but to the point.
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:59 am
your probably right…
have you any suggestions?
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:07 am
Ok I,ll just pull some stuff out of the top of my head cause I havn,t really thought about it…
eh..
Harry Potter and the all seeing eye
Harry Potter and the beginning
Harry Potter and the lost souls
Harry Potter and the darkness
If you ask me im pretty sure iv,e heard some of those titles before but its fun to guess anyway.
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:13 am
ya i was thinkin it might b somethin about the begining alright. but an unusual way of putting it.somebody said she came up with the name when she was in the shower!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:18 am
Harry Potter and the forbidden shower hahahahahaha
or Harry Potter gets soaked!
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:36 am
Yea! lol if she thought of it in the shower maybe its a sort of potion?
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:36 am
haha.livin it you make me laugh.
but does anyone else have any ideas??
i mean as to what it could be called realistically.
also has anyone heard any more about exact release dates???
last i heard it was next july..
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:37 am
Like what was inside the ‘lake’ wen harry and dumbledore wenmt to go get the horcrux ??
August 23rd, 2006 at 7:39 am
Yea they were guna release it on the 7.7.07 as 7 is the most powerfull number in the wizarding world but J.k sed she didn’t want it to colide with school soo nobody’s quite sure yet
August 23rd, 2006 at 8:08 am
thanks ni-ni.
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:34 am
thas ok
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:45 am
also i think ginny will hav a lot to do with how it all ends, like maybe voldemort will use her as bait and harry will say kill me not her…and offer himself as his parents did for him.
then i dont know!
August 23rd, 2006 at 10:13 am
mmmm maybe!
August 23rd, 2006 at 10:57 am
but just to make it clear i dont think harry will die,something will happen.
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:15 am
the deaths i predict and at who’s hands for 7 are
voldemort which is obvious killed by harry, or by harry and ginny together(love)
arthur weasley,by voldemort trying to protect harry which also bringing ron and hermione together finally when she comforts him
bellatrix by neville,revenge,(helped by luna who he gets together with)
wormtail and/or lucius by voldemort,bait, or anger,
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:20 pm
i have a theory bout this snape is evil/good debate:
well…at the start of the 6th book he made a unbreakable vow with narcissa (malfoys mother) saying that if malfoy counldn’t complete the task he was set by voldemort he (snape) would have to complete i.e snape would have to kill dumbledore if malfoy didn’t and as you know if u break an unbreakable vow you die. then further on in the book hagrid let slip to harry hermione and ron that he had heard snape and dumbledore fighting and that it was about snape saying that he didn’t want to do it (a certain task) anymore but dumbledore insists that snape has to go thru with it. now the trio automatically presume that snape is talking this task that he does for the order but what if they wernt whta if dumbledore and snape wer talknig about the unbreakable vow beause it is likely that snape told dumbledore. so maybe snape was saying that he would rather die than have to kill dumbledore himself. but dumbledore insisted that he had to go through with it ( well oviously otherwise snape would blow his cover and voldemort would kill him aswel) so when it came to malfoy having to kill dumbledore he did not. snape points his wand at dumbledore about to fulfil his unbreakable vow but the look of hatred is hatred towards voldemort and towards the unbreakable vow which is forcing him to kill dumbledore and also hatred to dumbledore because he is making him (snape) kill dumbledore then dumbledore pleads so snape kills him. thsi would fit in aswel cause snape didnt blow his coevr wit voldemort. just a theory hope it isnt to hard to understand!!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:36 pm
mastermind it actually says in book 6 that you have to have a look of hatred and disgust when you are using an unforgivable curse, so yes your right he would have been disguted and hated himself for doing it,even though it probably is what dumbledore wanted.so your right on that part in my opinion too
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:47 pm
Wormtail is most defanately more than what Voldy sees him as. I don’t think Voldy knows what Harry did for Wormtail, therefore does not know the dangers in having him. Wormtail is Voldy’s least wanted supporter but even Voldy does not know that. Because Wormtail owes his life to Harry. I think Wormtail in the end will somehow save Harry.
Mastermind–
Yes that theory had been repeated over and over and over and over. Sorry!
Guys…I have another big theory [[yet again lol sorry]] but I’m not sure what it will relaly lead to and it’ll be very surprising if somethign like this happens but I will post it in my next comment.
August 23rd, 2006 at 3:56 pm
As Harry Potter fans, we all know that the most important events in Harry’s life are those that he alone, out of all of his friends, encounters: the conversations with Dumbledore, the run-ins with Voldemort, various eavesdropping experiences. When Harry experiences something in the absence of other students, we know it’s important.
It surprised me, then, upon re-reading GOF, that there was a little, only-Harry encounter that nobody seems to have picked up on its importance. I am talking about Chapter 31, “The Third Task,” in particular, Harry’s meeting with the Sphinx. We can be pretty sure that none of the other Triwizard champions faced the riddle — Cedric approached the centre of the maze from a different direction, and Fleur and Krum were taken out before they could have reached that far. This is the Sphinx’s riddle:
“First think of the person who lives in disguise,
Who deals in secrets and tells naught but lies,
Next tell me what’s always the last thing to mend,
The middle of middle and end of the end?
And finally give me the sound often heard,
During the search for a hard-to-find word.
Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?”
Reading this, it struck me how easy it would be for JKR to slip in a crucial clue, and everybody would be so eager to find out if Harry would win the Triwizard Tournament that nobody would search here for clues. And since it seems the unlikely place to look for foreshadowing (right before the major action of the book), it would be the perfect place to hide it. As a really famous person should have said, but didn’t, “every rhyming couplet tells a story…”
The first two lines are relatively easy to decipher. We are looking for a spy. My first thought was Snape, but on closer examination, I found that Wormtail was a much more fitting choice. We are looking for someone who “lives in disguise,” and Wormtail lived in probably the best disguise ever for 12 whole years. Also, “deals in secrets” is a good indication that the person we are looking for is Wormtail — he was, after all, the Secret Keeper for the Potters.
The next rhyming couplet is more difficult. The first line seemed far too cryptic to attempt straight away, so I moved on to the second. My immediate thought was, what if this is a clue hiding in plain sight? “The middle of middle,” I believe, is a direct reference to the Harry Potter books. Since GOF is the middle book of the series, I thought that the clue was hidden there. GOF, as I’m sure you know, has 37 chapters. This means that the middle chapter is Chapter 18, “The Weighing of the Wands.” To my dismay, “the middle of middle” is 21 pages long. Since the rule of middle had brought me this far, I decided to trust it and take it one step further than the riddle said, and I found the middle page, page 263. There, I found my Holy Grail. That very page is a perfect example of Professor Snape being cruel and unfair towards Harry. Snape, then, is the person that these two lines refer to, and it is his animosity with Harry that will be the “last thing to mend” — either by a union between the two parties or the death of one or both of them. And when will this happen? At the “end of the end,” of course; the final confrontation, the elusive climax of book 7.
The third rhyming couplet came to me in a flash of realization. What is the most “hard-to-find word” in the Potterverse? Voldemort, of course! The “sound often heard” could relate to You-Know-Who, but they both lead us to the same person anyway.
So there I was. I had a riddle which I could link to three people in the Potterverse. Since the riddle was Harry’s experience, and no one else’s, I could understand that their relevance was to Harry, but where to go from there? I was stuck for a long time, wondering if all I could reach from the riddle was three names. Then I realised I hadn’t checked out the final two lines:
“Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?
I searched this couplet, trying desperately to find these three people’s significance to Harry, and what will be their roles at the “end of the end.” But all I could find was that the Dementors would be “unwilling to kiss” the three people, or else it was simply a clue to tell Harry the answer to the riddle in it’s current context: spider.
Spider.
Tempted as I was to run naked down the street shouting “Eureka!” I knew this was the answer I had been looking for. Spiders. Hadn’t I only minutes ago been thinking about clues hiding in plain sight? Let me explain.
Spiders have been mentioned in varying degrees of importance in all of the books. This suggests that spiders need to be kept in the limelight to give us clues — they are aided and abetted here by Ron’s phobia. So which spider reference is the riddle referring to? I thought about it, and decided on GOF for three reasons:
1) The spider references stop after GOF, and it would make no sense to carry them on after they had done their job.
2) GOF is the book in which the riddle occurs.
3) GOF is the pivotal, central point of the series. If you’re looking for major clues, here is a good place to start.
With that in mind, I found myself a nice juicy spider reference in GOF — in fact, a whole chapter devoted to our favorite eight-legged friends. I am talking, of course, about Chapter 14, “The Unforgivable Curses.” Now, of all the small creatures to control, torture and kill, why did Impostor Moody choose spiders? I’ll tell you why: he was controlled by a higher power (the author) to give us an important clue. Seventeen chapters before spider is the answer to the riddle, we see three spiders, being subjected to three curses.
Three curses for three spiders. And the riddle refers to three wizards.
It’s not difficult to see where I went after this. Because the riddle almost certainly needs to refer to Harry (or why else would he witness it?), I narrowed it down to two choices. Either Harry performs these curses on them, or they perform them on him. I’m not saying that the former is impossible, but I prefer the latter: it makes for more interesting plotting, and nobody wants Harry to become a patron of the Unforgivables.
So who is going to perform which curse on Harry? Logic would dictate the first curse for the first person mentioned in the riddle, and since logic is all we have to go with, this is what I think:
Wormtail = Imperius
Snape = Cruciatus
Voldemort = Avada Kedavra
Wormtail performing the Imperious curse on Harry doesn’t seem too far-fetched; the little rat has always been fond of power, although I can’t really see Harry being affected by it, unless he’s really weak at the time.
I am NOT saying that Voldemort will kill Harry, simply that he will aim the Avada Kedavra curse at him (in fact, I would say he’s already done it — twice — if it wasn’t for “end of the end” telling me this riddle is referring to the final confrontation). Whether or not he will survive, I haven’t the foggiest.
I can hear all the Snape fans screaming in anguish that I think Snape will perform the Cruciatus Curse on Harry. Well, since I’ve upset them already, I’ll expand on what I’ve said.
For me, Snape being evil is a very real possibility. It would be the greatest double-bluff ever, to have Harry and Ron’s childish, almost laughable accusations of Snape being swept aside by Hermione and Dumbledore’s unwavering trust in him, only to find that he really was evil. It would be very clever, to tell us constantly for nearly seven whole books that whatever it looks like, Snape is not evil, and then drop it on us at the climax of the series that he really is. Of course, Snape’s being evil suggests that for his and Harry’s enmity to be the “last thing to mend,” one of them would have to die, because I doubt that Harry would forgive him if he turned out to be a loyal Death Eater. If I were a betting girl, my money would be on Snape dying, but this is merely gut instinct and totally unjustified.
Of course, it is possible that their feud could be solved without one of their deaths, and without Snape being evil. It could be that when Snape performs the Cruciatus Curse on Harry, he is himself the victim of the Imperius Curse, cast by Voldemort or another Death Eater, upon finding out that he has betrayed them to help Dumbledore, and, consequently, Harry. It would be poetic justice on the Voldemort/Death Eater’s behalf, punishing him by making him torture the person he had betrayed them for.
Thanks for reading, and please let me know what you think.
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:11 pm
The Other Chosen one – im very intrested in ur theories please tell us!
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:13 pm
Thanks Ni-Ni!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:18 pm
Thas ok!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:21 pm
THE OTHER CHOSEN ONE–
You’ve done it again!! your amazing, how do u htink of this stuff?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!? the onyl thing i got is that snape is neutral! i think dumblys gone foreber no coming back with that mirror/picture. its sad. btw its been announced that book 7 will be ou ton Dec 2 2006!!!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:26 pm
WHAT!! THATS 4 MONTHS!! AHH .. are you sure?
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:31 pm
uhh wats gowin on sori im behind times!1 i red a few theorys tho!! theya wkd
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:33 pm
YOU BETTER BE SHURE IF YOURNT I WILL BE VERY PISSED
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:37 pm
YES ME TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! early crimbo prezzie …
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:38 pm
Anywyas im off to read harry potter then im off too bed!
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:45 pm
i think all the death eeters will break free of azkaban (agen) voldimorts at large agen and hardly ny ppl will stand up 2 him .. even if they do they dont stand much of a chnace do they?? any 1 agree? its probly rly obvious and im gona shut up naw bcos im makin my self seem dumb
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:51 pm
if harrys related 2 godrik G smwhere along the line …
then there was no chance of him ever beingrealted 2 salazar S and bein the heir of slytherin. so that meens all the things about him like being able 2 speek parslemouth and all tha are ALL from voldimort!! he must of transfers a heel of a lot of powers!! .. it made him week . he lost his powers and so on… voldimort is a very powerful person .. so that meen all the powers that where given 2 harry (accidently of corse) are ones that coukd b used agaisnt voldimort!! if they made him almost ded once b4!! harry has now matured and will probly learn his new powers .. how 2 use them … and use then agaisnt ppl!! im sori once agen i will say tha .. half of everythin i say is hard 2 understand .. i confuse my self
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:54 pm
wen dumbi’s picci was on the hed masters wall!! he seemd happy and smily!! maybe he wasnt shoked by what was comingf .. maybe he knew it rite from the start :S:S
August 23rd, 2006 at 4:57 pm
r my coments so dull no 1 even replys em?
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:56 pm
sorry i haven’t been on this for a while bexioo. but harry isn’t the Heir of Slytherin. Tom Riddle/Voldemort is. remember he was like brainwashing Ginny. Harry just got some of Riddle’s powers because of the way the Killing Curse didn’t kill harry
August 23rd, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Mastermind-
if you are wrong about the date of the seventh book’s release i’ll be pissed to. but i won’t be able to do anything about it so it’s all right if your wrong. i just want to know how you found out
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:09 pm
yeah who told you that.i personally have my hopes built up now so ‘the boy who lived’ if you are lying have my dissappointment on your shoulders………
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:13 pm
the more i think about it.that cant be right, id have heard….
although it is said she does have the last chapter written….
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:16 pm
no im sorry i dont think thats right,
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:20 pm
Mastermind-
sorry about that didn’t realize that it was The Boy Who Lived
Sarahius-
thank you for correcting me
The Boy Who Lived-
please don’t be lieing or wrong
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:22 pm
lynah i am gonna be so so soooooo annoyed if the boy who lined is wrong. (even though i think he is ) arent you?
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:23 pm
yes i am. i just don’t really like that you know? you get all excited and then the disappointment is worse
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:26 pm
yeah exactly.i mean im reallllly excited about it.we finally will get to know the answer to everything were discussing here!!!i wish the boy who lived would write back and tell us….
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:30 pm
me too. what’s eating away the most at me is how sirius will come back into the book and what has happened to dumbledore and harry’s parents. i really want to know what they were like. but most of all i can’t wait to find out if harry kills voldy
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:30 pm
i must go to bed now…if i can sleep!il be thinkin of that
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:32 pm
i think he will.i mean he has to really.i am curious about his parents and about snape most though.
who said sirius is coming back?
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:35 pm
i heard it from this website called http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org it was a while back though but they said that in an interview with JK she said that Sirius would come back but we are not sure in what form yet
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:35 pm
by the way j k has confirmed that 2 more people than planned originally are going to die in 7
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:36 pm
yeah.. i hope it’s not one of the main characters
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:40 pm
o well that makes a theory that i had even more possible….
i thought maybe he wasnt dead at all.we never knew what happened after he fell through that veil… you never know but the theory i had was he and voldemort could be alive and will re emerge just when harry needs him most, i know j k said he is definetly dead(dumbledore) but she would say that!! she doesnt WANT us to know yet.
its just a theory…
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:41 pm
iv said already somewhere on this page who i think will die..
August 23rd, 2006 at 6:49 pm
the one before your last comment i like that very much because it would be awesome for that to happen harry’s had a lot happen to him and any author would lie to keep a story interesting. i mean so many people act as if they’re soul mates with JK saying she would never lie to them but she’s human and an author and both are good reasons for her to do so.
for your last comment-
yes i read that peice on who you believe will die and i agree with you. they are all very likely because each of those death eaters have done something to deserve it
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:06 pm
GUYS ITS JUST A RUMOR ITS NOT CONFIRMED YET!!!!!!
you guys are scaring me…dont kill me!!!
once again just a rumor!!!!!!!!!!
i dunno if its true or not.
but i hope it is.
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:08 pm
the boy who lived–
thanks but that makes no sense the book is coming out in 4 months.
Lets think…b4 the 6th one came out it was publizced EVERYWHERE [[at least where I live]] bookshops, targets, walmarts, even schools. And mugglenet always has that countdown…It’s just too soon. Using common sense, then its a false rumor.
What do you guys think about my theory?! I worked forever on it and I’m not gettnig any feedback!!
Should I repost it?
August 23rd, 2006 at 9:53 pm
The Other Chosen One-
please repost it because i didn’t see it
August 23rd, 2006 at 10:33 pm
umm, first of all, I just wanna say I’m gonna be laughin my fat ole ass off when “dumbly” comes back [its insulting for me to even say that]. I, however, am ready to listen to all theories provided by u “dumbledore is dead” fanatics, they are quite amusing. Anyway, I think that any ETA for the final book is bogus and I also think that any names I’ve heard for the final book are just stupid and or ridiculous. “Harry Potter and the Strength of Love”????? omg, where is that noose I had ready for just such an occasion…… ah there it is. If my mom finds me in time, perhaps I’ll leave another comment. Until next time you “dumbly” cigarettes.
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:18 pm
as we all know jk said she is going to kill 2 characters now(at least) but if they are main ones i think Harry will be one even though he maybe alive (well i bet he will be alive at the end) i dont really want the smae old ending to a serioes like this Harry kills Voldemort YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH WE LOVE YOU HARYY YEAHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH really i would love if Voldemort kills harry and says HAHAHHAHHAHA DIE DIE DIE JUST LIKE YOUR PARENTS DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE and after Harrt is dead voldemort does another killing spell on him
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:22 pm
Dude, pugman, I’m really gonna give it to yer mom tonight, yer so dumb. THEY ARE BOTH GONNA DIE, you stupid shit. God I love stupid ppl like you, yer so easy to make fun of. And yer mom puts out like a pro. NOW I AM BUSY TRYING TO HANG MYSELF!!!
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:24 pm
Raptor shutup man lets keep this clean
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:26 pm
yeah sry guys for the pointless comment
August 23rd, 2006 at 11:29 pm
but i was kinda serious about the ending what i mean is as we all know Harry will kill Voldemort but like i siad im so sick of that kind of ending why cant evil win for once
August 24th, 2006 at 2:37 am
Pugman–
Yeah I know its always the same thing..first its goods winning, then bads winning then its a tie then bad again the the good always wins somehow. In almost every movie I watch its like that…good bad tie bad good.
Enough with it already!!
But I dunno what I truely want for HP. Yes I want Voldy gone but then it’ll just be another book but HP isn’t just another book, its one of the most popular books in the world whether you like it or not and I will be surprised if it doesn’t go down in history. Hahah I sound like I’m giving off some noble, justice speech for a book…but anyways but then if Voldy wins it’ll be a huge upset..I don’t know =]
Ehh Raptor your getting retarded again just stfu.
August 24th, 2006 at 2:37 am
Okay guys heres the theory, read it this time–
As Harry Potter fans, we all know that the most important events in Harry’s life are those that he alone, out of all of his friends, encounters: the conversations with Dumbledore, the run-ins with Voldemort, various eavesdropping experiences. When Harry experiences something in the absence of other students, we know it’s important.
It surprised me, then, upon re-reading GOF, that there was a little, only-Harry encounter that nobody seems to have picked up on its importance. I am talking about Chapter 31, “The Third Task,†in particular, Harry’s meeting with the Sphinx. We can be pretty sure that none of the other Triwizard champions faced the riddle — Cedric approached the centre of the maze from a different direction, and Fleur and Krum were taken out before they could have reached that far. This is the Sphinx’s riddle:
“First think of the person who lives in disguise,
Who deals in secrets and tells naught but lies,
Next tell me what’s always the last thing to mend,
The middle of middle and end of the end?
And finally give me the sound often heard,
During the search for a hard-to-find word.
Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?â€
Reading this, it struck me how easy it would be for JKR to slip in a crucial clue, and everybody would be so eager to find out if Harry would win the Triwizard Tournament that nobody would search here for clues. And since it seems the unlikely place to look for foreshadowing (right before the major action of the book), it would be the perfect place to hide it. As a really famous person should have said, but didn’t, “every rhyming couplet tells a story…â€
The first two lines are relatively easy to decipher. We are looking for a spy. My first thought was Snape, but on closer examination, I found that Wormtail was a much more fitting choice. We are looking for someone who “lives in disguise,†and Wormtail lived in probably the best disguise ever for 12 whole years. Also, “deals in secrets†is a good indication that the person we are looking for is Wormtail — he was, after all, the Secret Keeper for the Potters.
The next rhyming couplet is more difficult. The first line seemed far too cryptic to attempt straight away, so I moved on to the second. My immediate thought was, what if this is a clue hiding in plain sight? “The middle of middle,†I believe, is a direct reference to the Harry Potter books. Since GOF is the middle book of the series, I thought that the clue was hidden there. GOF, as I’m sure you know, has 37 chapters. This means that the middle chapter is Chapter 18, “The Weighing of the Wands.†To my dismay, “the middle of middle†is 21 pages long. Since the rule of middle had brought me this far, I decided to trust it and take it one step further than the riddle said, and I found the middle page, page 263. There, I found my Holy Grail. That very page is a perfect example of Professor Snape being cruel and unfair towards Harry. Snape, then, is the person that these two lines refer to, and it is his animosity with Harry that will be the “last thing to mend†— either by a union between the two parties or the death of one or both of them. And when will this happen? At the “end of the end,†of course; the final confrontation, the elusive climax of book 7.
The third rhyming couplet came to me in a flash of realization. What is the most “hard-to-find word†in the Potterverse? Voldemort, of course! The “sound often heard†could relate to You-Know-Who, but they both lead us to the same person anyway.
So there I was. I had a riddle which I could link to three people in the Potterverse. Since the riddle was Harry’s experience, and no one else’s, I could understand that their relevance was to Harry, but where to go from there? I was stuck for a long time, wondering if all I could reach from the riddle was three names. Then I realised I hadn’t checked out the final two lines:
“Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?
I searched this couplet, trying desperately to find these three people’s significance to Harry, and what will be their roles at the “end of the end.†But all I could find was that the Dementors would be “unwilling to kiss†the three people, or else it was simply a clue to tell Harry the answer to the riddle in it’s current context: spider.
Spider.
Tempted as I was to run naked down the street shouting “Eureka!†I knew this was the answer I had been looking for. Spiders. Hadn’t I only minutes ago been thinking about clues hiding in plain sight? Let me explain.
Spiders have been mentioned in varying degrees of importance in all of the books. This suggests that spiders need to be kept in the limelight to give us clues — they are aided and abetted here by Ron’s phobia. So which spider reference is the riddle referring to? I thought about it, and decided on GOF for three reasons:
1) The spider references stop after GOF, and it would make no sense to carry them on after they had done their job.
2) GOF is the book in which the riddle occurs.
3) GOF is the pivotal, central point of the series. If you’re looking for major clues, here is a good place to start.
With that in mind, I found myself a nice juicy spider reference in GOF — in fact, a whole chapter devoted to our favorite eight-legged friends. I am talking, of course, about Chapter 14, “The Unforgivable Curses.†Now, of all the small creatures to control, torture and kill, why did Impostor Moody choose spiders? I’ll tell you why: he was controlled by a higher power (the author) to give us an important clue. Seventeen chapters before spider is the answer to the riddle, we see three spiders, being subjected to three curses.
Three curses for three spiders. And the riddle refers to three wizards.
It’s not difficult to see where I went after this. Because the riddle almost certainly needs to refer to Harry (or why else would he witness it?), I narrowed it down to two choices. Either Harry performs these curses on them, or they perform them on him. I’m not saying that the former is impossible, but I prefer the latter: it makes for more interesting plotting, and nobody wants Harry to become a patron of the Unforgivables.
So who is going to perform which curse on Harry? Logic would dictate the first curse for the first person mentioned in the riddle, and since logic is all we have to go with, this is what I think:
Wormtail = Imperius
Snape = Cruciatus
Voldemort = Avada Kedavra
Wormtail performing the Imperious curse on Harry doesn’t seem too far-fetched; the little rat has always been fond of power, although I can’t really see Harry being affected by it, unless he’s really weak at the time.
I am NOT saying that Voldemort will kill Harry, simply that he will aim the Avada Kedavra curse at him (in fact, I would say he’s already done it — twice — if it wasn’t for “end of the end†telling me this riddle is referring to the final confrontation). Whether or not he will survive, I haven’t the foggiest.
I can hear all the Snape fans screaming in anguish that I think Snape will perform the Cruciatus Curse on Harry. Well, since I’ve upset them already, I’ll expand on what I’ve said.
For me, Snape being evil is a very real possibility. It would be the greatest double-bluff ever, to have Harry and Ron’s childish, almost laughable accusations of Snape being swept aside by Hermione and Dumbledore’s unwavering trust in him, only to find that he really was evil. It would be very clever, to tell us constantly for nearly seven whole books that whatever it looks like, Snape is not evil, and then drop it on us at the climax of the series that he really is. Of course, Snape’s being evil suggests that for his and Harry’s enmity to be the “last thing to mend,†one of them would have to die, because I doubt that Harry would forgive him if he turned out to be a loyal Death Eater. If I were a betting girl, my money would be on Snape dying, but this is merely gut instinct and totally unjustified.
Of course, it is possible that their feud could be solved without one of their deaths, and without Snape being evil. It could be that when Snape performs the Cruciatus Curse on Harry, he is himself the victim of the Imperius Curse, cast by Voldemort or another Death Eater, upon finding out that he has betrayed them to help Dumbledore, and, consequently, Harry. It would be poetic justice on the Voldemort/Death Eater’s behalf, punishing him by making him torture the person he had betrayed them for.
Thanks for reading, and please let me know what you think.
August 24th, 2006 at 2:55 am
Okay I was just thinking..I think the whole Lily hating James and then ending up marrying him was forshawdowing to Ginny and Harry i.e. Harry looks just like James Lily/Ginny has same similarites like hair, skin complexion, Ginny used to be afraid around Harry..sorta same feelings that Lily felt about James only she hated him and then Lily/James end up together just like Harry and Ginny.
Well one red head alrdy sacraaficed her life for Harry…Perhaps Ginny will too? Very very unlikely but it could happen.
August 24th, 2006 at 3:02 am
Hahah I get out on May 31 or June 1 so its oaky with me if it comes out 07.07.07
August 24th, 2006 at 3:05 am
Hey guys I’m 13 now =]]]
I can legally sit in the front seat and I can see PG13 without my parents permission..though Im prolly gonna have to ask fo it neways lol. I LOVE AUGUST 20 ITS THE BEST DAY IN TEH HISTORY OF MAN KIND!
Hhaah well its 4am and I’m gonna go to bed..ttyl and tell mea bout my theory =]
August 24th, 2006 at 5:44 am
on mugglenet it sed dat snape could be nagini as an anmagus well that would explain how dumbledore gets his information i suppose what do you guys think?
the otehr hosen one- it is a good theory but i think jk wunt do that because it is to easy to predict a repeat of history event….
August 24th, 2006 at 9:02 am
Mastermind–
Are you talking about my tri wizard clue theory or my foreshawdowing? I assume the forshawdowing…I think repeating history means nothing to her [[check out the second book]] and plus its not really repeating history…well kidna i udnno.
BUT WHAT ABOUT MY TRIWIZARD CLUE I WORKED FOREVER ON?!?!
YA’LL AINT GIVING ME FEEDBACK!
August 24th, 2006 at 9:46 am
The Other Chosen One – What Triwizard clue? i dont think that it was posted because i cant c it
Sorii!
August 24th, 2006 at 9:51 am
i no i cnt see it either lol i fink u 4gt 2 post it ….?
August 24th, 2006 at 9:53 am
You know Godricks Hollow, well maybee godrcik griffindor used to live there?!?!
Sory I’m just soooooooooooooooooooooo bored!
August 24th, 2006 at 9:55 am
Will you just roughly tell us what u wrote please ?? [[the other chosen one]]
August 24th, 2006 at 10:00 am
yeah that what loads of people have said but jk wunt make it that ovious would she?! what do you fink botu me snape is nagini thoery ?:
on mugglenet it sed dat snape could be nagini as an anmagus well that would explain how dumbledore gets his information i suppose what do you guys think?
August 24th, 2006 at 10:07 am
Well yea thats a good idea butt how would snape get somewhere when hes in hogwarts ? i meen they cant dissaparate there and it would take ages for him to fly soo i dunoo …
August 24th, 2006 at 10:21 am
well i no they say hogwarts is impossilbe 2 get in2 but if u wer an animagus as an owl then you would be able to!! but then mayeb snape is an owl remember on harry poter 55 i think it was he had a dream were he flew on an owl to wer voldemort was and the owl was snape?!!
August 24th, 2006 at 10:29 am
No, i read this last night the 4th book, and err i dont think it says any wherer that it was snape …
August 24th, 2006 at 10:31 am
no i no but it could be i mean its a way that eh could get in and otu of hogwarts undetected if he was an owl
August 24th, 2006 at 10:34 am
Yea maybe but like it would still take him time to fly wherever voldemort was and be bak at hogwarts in time to teach
August 24th, 2006 at 10:35 am
spose all he would have to do is fly out of hogwarts then apparate to where voldemort was??!!!
August 24th, 2006 at 10:37 am
Then apparate back and then fly bak again!
August 24th, 2006 at 10:39 am
e3xaclty!! so maybe he is helping voldemort with somethign or maybe he is helping dumbledoreby spying on voldemort and that is the secret job that snape dus foe the order???
August 24th, 2006 at 10:41 am
Or maybe hes a spy for both of them!
August 24th, 2006 at 10:43 am
i stil say snape is a good guy but it think he is gonna stick with the eprson who is the strognestso he is a double spy for both fo them but whoever coems otu on top thta is who snape is gona claim he was loyal to all along
August 24th, 2006 at 10:44 am
cuz in the 6th book he and dumbledore where arguin n snape was like i dont wanna do this anymore! soo he was doing somethin for him so…
August 24th, 2006 at 10:47 am
but maybe wen they wer arguing snape was saying that he ditn want 2 fooloow with the unbreakable vow and dumbledore was saying he had to because the unbreakable vow was that snape would have to kill dumbledore if malfoy didnt and mayeb snape was saying that he didnt want to
August 24th, 2006 at 10:52 am
on mugglenet it sed dat snape could be nagini as an anmagus well that would explain how dumbledore gets his information i suppose what do you guys think?
the otehr hosen one- it is a good theory but i think jk wunt do that because it is to easy to predict a repeat of history event….
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I just think that it couldn’t happen. On the night Arthur Weasley was attacked (by Nagini) Snape was still in Hogwarts. I don’t think that Nagini is an animagus, but Dumbledore said before that Voldemort had an unusual amount of control over Nagini. Could Nagini be a snake that used to be a human being? Some sort of spell or potion. I really don’t know, but I don’t think that Nagini is an Animagus. And I’ve been reading the old posts so I’ll just quash a few old rumors
The sorting hat is NOT a horcrux (confirmed on Jo’s website)
Petunia is NOT a squid, neither is she magical in any way. She is a muggle.
Crookshanks and Mrs. Norris are NOT Animagi, Crookshanks is just very intelligent (as Sirius once said in Prizoner of Azkaban) and Mrs. Norris is just a well trained cat that’s out to get everyone (confirmed by Jo’ on her website).
I don’t Snape is an Animagus at all. I just couldn’t believe that. Dumbledore is getting information from other peoples memorys from ex-death eaters and people that had known him at a younger age.
Oh, and something to think about. If Chamber of Secrets is set in 1992 and Voldemort was in his 5th year at Hogwarts when Hagrid was expelled, that means that both Voldemort and Hagrid are both around 60-70 years of age. You just wouldn’t normally think of Hagrid or Voldemort that old…
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Jordan
August 24th, 2006 at 10:58 am
thats doesnt make sence :S
August 24th, 2006 at 11:18 am
The Other Chosen One-
i love your theory on this webpage
Ni Ni-
the other chosen one’s triwizard theory was on the last webpage
August 24th, 2006 at 11:40 am
Pugman, my opinion on what you said above.
I know it would make the story more interesting if Voldermort beat Harry at the end but think about it…
I dont know whats going through Jks head but the one thing I think we can all agree on is that shes going to make it a fantastic ending.Im not saying that it will be predictable but I have my doubts that shes going to let evil tryumph over good,it wouldnt be the best example to set for young people either and shes always so concerned about kids learning good information.
okay,somebody has to say it so here goes..
Raptor,YOU IDIOT! what is your problem? I think its amazing that you can insult people when you clearly have some serious issues yourself.If you have a problem with people voicing their opinions then go interupt some other website cause we wont put up with it.see ya!!
August 24th, 2006 at 11:44 am
Jordan,your theories are really good.
I have a question for you though. Where did you find out that Petunia was definately not a squid?just curious cause Im trying to figure out if she is or not.
August 24th, 2006 at 11:56 am
guys i know some of you think snape could be nagni but couple things are wrong with that 1 if he was nagni dont you think he would of told dumbledpre he was going to attack arthar weasly 2 dumbledore tinks nagni is a horcrux and i dont think humans can be horcruxs
guys i wasnt trying to shoot down your theorys im sry if youre offended by it
August 24th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
Lynah – ohh right soo the other chosen ones theory was on the last one .. i can’t remember the address for it soo will somebody please tell mee roughl yof whta it said?
Thanx
August 24th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
sorry Ni Ni i don’t rememeber the other page’s address
August 24th, 2006 at 3:24 pm
Okay guys this is the last time I’m posting this, just scroll up and find it, okay?? And I need feedback, but thanks to those who did =]
As Harry Potter fans, we all know that the most important events in Harry’s life are those that he alone, out of all of his friends, encounters: the conversations with Dumbledore, the run-ins with Voldemort, various eavesdropping experiences. When Harry experiences something in the absence of other students, we know it’s important.
It surprised me, then, upon re-reading GOF, that there was a little, only-Harry encounter that nobody seems to have picked up on its importance. I am talking about Chapter 31, “The Third Task,†in particular, Harry’s meeting with the Sphinx. We can be pretty sure that none of the other Triwizard champions faced the riddle — Cedric approached the centre of the maze from a different direction, and Fleur and Krum were taken out before they could have reached that far. This is the Sphinx’s riddle:
“First think of the person who lives in disguise,
Who deals in secrets and tells naught but lies,
Next tell me what’s always the last thing to mend,
The middle of middle and end of the end?
And finally give me the sound often heard,
During the search for a hard-to-find word.
Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?â€
Reading this, it struck me how easy it would be for JKR to slip in a crucial clue, and everybody would be so eager to find out if Harry would win the Triwizard Tournament that nobody would search here for clues. And since it seems the unlikely place to look for foreshadowing (right before the major action of the book), it would be the perfect place to hide it. As a really famous person should have said, but didn’t, “every rhyming couplet tells a story…â€
The first two lines are relatively easy to decipher. We are looking for a spy. My first thought was Snape, but on closer examination, I found that Wormtail was a much more fitting choice. We are looking for someone who “lives in disguise,†and Wormtail lived in probably the best disguise ever for 12 whole years. Also, “deals in secrets†is a good indication that the person we are looking for is Wormtail — he was, after all, the Secret Keeper for the Potters.
The next rhyming couplet is more difficult. The first line seemed far too cryptic to attempt straight away, so I moved on to the second. My immediate thought was, what if this is a clue hiding in plain sight? “The middle of middle,†I believe, is a direct reference to the Harry Potter books. Since GOF is the middle book of the series, I thought that the clue was hidden there. GOF, as I’m sure you know, has 37 chapters. This means that the middle chapter is Chapter 18, “The Weighing of the Wands.†To my dismay, “the middle of middle†is 21 pages long. Since the rule of middle had brought me this far, I decided to trust it and take it one step further than the riddle said, and I found the middle page, page 263. There, I found my Holy Grail. That very page is a perfect example of Professor Snape being cruel and unfair towards Harry. Snape, then, is the person that these two lines refer to, and it is his animosity with Harry that will be the “last thing to mend†— either by a union between the two parties or the death of one or both of them. And when will this happen? At the “end of the end,†of course; the final confrontation, the elusive climax of book 7.
The third rhyming couplet came to me in a flash of realization. What is the most “hard-to-find word†in the Potterverse? Voldemort, of course! The “sound often heard†could relate to You-Know-Who, but they both lead us to the same person anyway.
So there I was. I had a riddle which I could link to three people in the Potterverse. Since the riddle was Harry’s experience, and no one else’s, I could understand that their relevance was to Harry, but where to go from there? I was stuck for a long time, wondering if all I could reach from the riddle was three names. Then I realised I hadn’t checked out the final two lines:
“Now string them together, and answer me this,
Which creature would you be unwilling to kiss?
I searched this couplet, trying desperately to find these three people’s significance to Harry, and what will be their roles at the “end of the end.†But all I could find was that the Dementors would be “unwilling to kiss†the three people, or else it was simply a clue to tell Harry the answer to the riddle in it’s current context: spider.
Spider.
Tempted as I was to run naked down the street shouting “Eureka!†I knew this was the answer I had been looking for. Spiders. Hadn’t I only minutes ago been thinking about clues hiding in plain sight? Let me explain.
Spiders have been mentioned in varying degrees of importance in all of the books. This suggests that spiders need to be kept in the limelight to give us clues — they are aided and abetted here by Ron’s phobia. So which spider reference is the riddle referring to? I thought about it, and decided on GOF for three reasons:
1) The spider references stop after GOF, and it would make no sense to carry them on after they had done their job.
2) GOF is the book in which the riddle occurs.
3) GOF is the pivotal, central point of the series. If you’re looking for major clues, here is a good place to start.
With that in mind, I found myself a nice juicy spider reference in GOF — in fact, a whole chapter devoted to our favorite eight-legged friends. I am talking, of course, about Chapter 14, “The Unforgivable Curses.†Now, of all the small creatures to control, torture and kill, why did Impostor Moody choose spiders? I’ll tell you why: he was controlled by a higher power (the author) to give us an important clue. Seventeen chapters before spider is the answer to the riddle, we see three spiders, being subjected to three curses.
Three curses for three spiders. And the riddle refers to three wizards.
It’s not difficult to see where I went after this. Because the riddle almost certainly needs to refer to Harry (or why else would he witness it?), I narrowed it down to two choices. Either Harry performs these curses on them, or they perform them on him. I’m not saying that the former is impossible, but I prefer the latter: it makes for more interesting plotting, and nobody wants Harry to become a patron of the Unforgivables.
So who is going to perform which curse on Harry? Logic would dictate the first curse for the first person mentioned in the riddle, and since logic is all we have to go with, this is what I think:
Wormtail = Imperius
Snape = Cruciatus
Voldemort = Avada Kedavra
Wormtail performing the Imperious curse on Harry doesn’t seem too far-fetched; the little rat has always been fond of power, although I can’t really see Harry being affected by it, unless he’s really weak at the time.
I am NOT saying that Voldemort will kill Harry, simply that he will aim the Avada Kedavra curse at him (in fact, I would say he’s already done it — twice — if it wasn’t for “end of the end†telling me this riddle is referring to the final confrontation). Whether or not he will survive, I haven’t the foggiest.
I can hear all the Snape fans screaming in anguish that I think Snape will perform the Cruciatus Curse on Harry. Well, since I’ve upset them already, I’ll expand on what I’ve said.
For me, Snape being evil is a very real possibility. It would be the greatest double-bluff ever, to have Harry and Ron’s childish, almost laughable accusations of Snape being swept aside by Hermione and Dumbledore’s unwavering trust in him, only to find that he really was evil. It would be very clever, to tell us constantly for nearly seven whole books that whatever it looks like, Snape is not evil, and then drop it on us at the climax of the series that he really is. Of course, Snape’s being evil suggests that for his and Harry’s enmity to be the “last thing to mend,†one of them would have to die, because I doubt that Harry would forgive him if he turned out to be a loyal Death Eater. If I were a betting girl, my money would be on Snape dying, but this is merely gut instinct and totally unjustified.
Of course, it is possible that their feud could be solved without one of their deaths, and without Snape being evil. It could be that when Snape performs the Cruciatus Curse on Harry, he is himself the victim of the Imperius Curse, cast by Voldemort or another Death Eater, upon finding out that he has betrayed them to help Dumbledore, and, consequently, Harry. It would be poetic justice on the Voldemort/Death Eater’s behalf, punishing him by making him torture the person he had betrayed them for.
Thanks for reading, and please let me know what you think.
August 24th, 2006 at 3:30 pm
raptor your sooo rude. thanks for the insult, i am entitled to my opinion,(a title which by the way i dont even believe is possible, i was just putting stuff out there.)people are here to give thier opinion,if you disagree thats fine but stop being so arrogant,there are forums and chat rooms you can use to insult people and/or as you do ‘try’ to be funny,what are you 5??besides where are your showstopping comments…??? what are YOUR suggestions for titles???
ni-ni i think yo make really great points
the other chosen one, your comments are v interesting, better than a lot here and your only 13???wow.good for you.
livin it i agree with you on almost everything youv said…
pugman,how could you say that about harry dying?
also its not gonna happen, the hero will live, people would never read another jk rowling book again most likely if he died as that would leave us sad and pissed off. also evil does win in some books and movies.just not this one.sorry if that dissappoints you,,
August 24th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
Sarahius – Thanks!! you make rili good points aswell and i agree with you that harry will win! good normaly defeat the bad and i think every harry potter fan would be megga dissapointed if voldemort won! its just not J.k’s style …
August 24th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
exactly.who would want to read that!!!
except maybe pugman…. lol
August 24th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
jordan i also wanna know who said petunia is defrinetly not a squib?… i dont recall that
August 24th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
sarahius i wasnt saying i would celebrate id harry died but you have to agree with me on this evil rarely wins
August 24th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
Yep 13 baby =
I’m too sexy for my shirt..too sexy for my shirt so sexy I WANT HARRY POTTER BOOK 7 TO COME OUT.
August 24th, 2006 at 10:17 pm
the other chosen one could you repost the triwizard theory im not shure if i rember it
also in gof where was snape when voldemort came bac was he there with him cause i rember there being alot of people but voldemort didnt take off all of there masks but if he was there maybe dumbleodre wanted him there
August 25th, 2006 at 10:48 am
Jordan,your theories are really good.
. It’s posted on Jo’s website, just check out the rumours page and have a look there. All the rumours are there and Jo’ comments on them.
I have a question for you though. Where did you find out that Petunia was definately not a squid?just curious cause Im trying to figure out if she is or not.
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Ahem…squib, not squid
The Other Chosen one, what a great theory! There was alot of effort in that, it was great, perhaps a little far-fetched at times, but great none the less.
I don’t think Harry will die, Jo’ couldn’t finished the series like that. Basically, she couldn’t and wouldn’t.
And whilst on the topic of GOF (which I finished after 2 weeks of reading a few nights ago. It is my leat favorite book, I can finish Azkaban in less than a day) I’ll just quote a line
” ‘He [Voldemort] said my blood would make him stronger, than if he’d used someone else’s,’ Harry told Dumbledore. ‘He said the protection my – my mother left in me – he’d have it, too. And he was right – he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face.’
And for a fleeting instant, Harry though he saw something like a gleam of triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes. But the next second, Harry was sure he had imagined it, for when Dumbledore had returned to the seat behind his desk, he looked as old and weary as Harry had ever seen him.”
I know people hate coming back onto this topic, but I feel something is really important about this paragraph. I think it means something, though Jo’ may be trying to throw the scent off something else. Mabye by using Harry’s blood Voldemort somehow weakened himself. I don’t know, but I want to hear some other peoples views on it.
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Jordan
August 25th, 2006 at 11:07 am
Gof -
[[voldemort]]
I wanted the lood of the one who stripped me of my powers thiertten years ago, for the lingerouse protection his mother once gave him, would then reside in my vanes to’
Does that voldemort has Lilys love and protection aswell?
August 25th, 2006 at 11:19 am
JKR said 2 people were going to die in the next book. And I think Harry and voldemort are ones who will die. I think harry is the last horcrux and he will kill himself to kill voldemort.
August 25th, 2006 at 11:20 am
What do you guys think of my idea
August 25th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Hello? anyone on
August 25th, 2006 at 11:25 am
Hello
August 25th, 2006 at 11:27 am
Yes eloo
August 25th, 2006 at 11:28 am
I dont think harry will die becauase people cant be horcruxes .. wel they can but horcruzes arent suposed 2 talk or draw attention to themselfz
August 25th, 2006 at 11:44 am
The Other Chosen One -
WOWWWW! how on earth doo you make up sumthin like that out of a few lines … thats totally amazing!! lil bit far fetched at times but wow is all i can say!!……… thats a really good theory you should practicly rite the new book ! :S
August 25th, 2006 at 11:52 am
potter fan one problem is harry kills himslef b/c hes a horcrux Voldemort is still alive b/c he still has a piece of his soul
August 25th, 2006 at 11:54 am
oh my god seriously, what is goin on here? harry dying,voldemort winning,etc….what have ye done with the people who have read harry potter and love it??
August 25th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Sarahius – i agree, or umm wher u talking about me aswell ? lol :S
August 25th, 2006 at 2:41 pm
did JK rowling say that harry will get a new pet or is that a rumor?
August 25th, 2006 at 2:51 pm
Yes it is impossible for Harry to be a horcrux for the reason Sarahius gave. But I dunno about his actual scar being a horcrux, thatd be rly weird bc to destroy that I’m assuming he would have to kill himself so I don’t think its a horcrux.
What do you guys think the last horcrux is?
THANKS GUYS!! Yeah it was a bit “yeah thats never gonna happen at times” but you knowww. Thanks!
August 25th, 2006 at 3:02 pm
Haha, i just wached the simpseons episode abuot harry potter .. not important i know but i thought id say … lol
August 25th, 2006 at 3:07 pm
My Name–
Uhm yeah I remember that too but I think that was Buckbeat cuz he inheirted him but he gave him to Hagrid.
August 25th, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Yea i think they where onnabout buckbeak ..
August 25th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
oh ok. i was thinking about wormtail since he owes his life to harry (3rd book) and in a way he could be considered a pet bc he can become a rat…
August 25th, 2006 at 3:33 pm
Good idea but err i dontt think soo … maybe thou
August 25th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
The Other Chosen One – I’ve just been reading the old comments from the old sight that u wrote and i must say ur AMAZING!! i reeeeeeealllyy wanna know how u cum up with these ideas gawd, thats totaly wowed me out .. :S are you sure ur not like Jo’ herself?! cuz u seem to lyk knowwww loads great things and cum up with amazing ideas! ….
Well anyways im of too bed too c if i can find enymore theories !
August 25th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
JKR said 2 people were going to die in the next book. And I think Harry and voldemort are ones who will die. I think harry is the last horcrux and he will kill himself to kill voldemort.
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She didn’t say 2 people would die. She said 2 people she didn’t intend to die would die. When asked if there were many more deaths she simply replied “Yes. Sorry”
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Jordan
August 25th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
ni-ni. i do NOT include you in that.!!! you seem to know what your talkin about, there are a few here that do.(livinit, the other chosen one etc.)
but some here seriously need slaps!!!
also maybe your right maybe the chosen one is jk pretending to be him/her!lol
but now thats interesting…..maybe somebody here IS jk……maybe i am….or you!!!
my name i heard that too i dunno though.
August 25th, 2006 at 8:05 pm
has anyone noticed raptors dissapperance??
haha where is he/she to fight his/her corner.hiding somewhere no doubt. knows where he/she is not welcome i guess….
the boy who lived….u really got my hopes up with that before xmas release date shit… i stupidly thought …maybe…. i should have know.u are lucky i cant slap you. lol.
o my god i didnt know there was a harry potter episode of the simpsons!!! hyaha.i HAVE to see that!!!!
August 25th, 2006 at 8:20 pm
yeah the harry episode of the simpsons is funny and sarahius raptor doesnt post alot of stuff
August 25th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
oh i have a theory that would support snape being good. in the Half-Blood Prince in the chapter “Spinners End” Snape is talking to Narcissa and Bellatrix and he says to them “I am pleased to say, however, that Dumbledore is growing old. The duel with the Dark Lord last month shook him, He has since sustained a serious injury because his reactions are slower than they once were. But through all these years, he has never stopped trusting Severus Snape, and therein lies my great value to the Dark Lord”
but we know that Dumbledore tells harry this…”The ring, Harry. Marvolo’s ring. And a terrible curse there was upon it too. Had it not been – forgive me for the lack of seemly modesty – for my own prodigious skill, and for Professor Snape’s timely action when i returned to Hogwarts, desperately injured, I might not have lived to tell the tale. However, a withered hand does not seem an unreasonable exchange for a seventh of Voldemort’s soul. The ring is no longer a Horcrux.”
so Snape most likely did know about the Horcuxes but he lied to Narcissa and Bellatrix saying that Dumbledore was injured from Voldemort.
It also says in the chapter The Lightning Struck Tower, “Oh, weaker resistance, slower reflexes, Amycus,” said Dumbledore. “Old age, in short… One day, perhaps, it will happen to you…if you are lucky….”
So my point is that Snape had covered for Dumbledore about the Horcruxes in the chapter that he speaks to Narciss and Bellatrix. I myself think that Snape is good.
August 25th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
Please leave comments on my theory. thank you very much.
August 26th, 2006 at 8:39 am
Sarahius – The harry potter eppisode of the simpsons is a hollowe’en one [[ sorri i cant spell ]] its the new series soo it’ll be on again soon …
Lynah – Thats a good theory, yea i also think Snape is good but i think he’s evil aswell in some ways but genuinly at the end of the day i think he’ll help Harry not Voldemort. But then again…
Oh and by the way, im not J.k… just to make it perfectly clear
August 26th, 2006 at 11:18 am
Ohh ok well im the only one on here today!! do u have like saturday skwl in america or sumthing?
Harry Potter Girl – Welcome bak! i’ve really missd u catch up swn please cum on wen ya get a chance!
August 26th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
nope i’m here Ni-ni
August 26th, 2006 at 1:01 pm
not only death eater call the voldi the dark lord … cos in prof.T’s prediction she ses ”the DARK LORD will rise agen, greater and more terrible than ever before”
dus that make sence
August 26th, 2006 at 1:07 pm
Lynah–
I really liek that point. Makes sense, short, simple and to the point!
August 26th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
well she waz avin a preminision so it waznt er tlkin
August 26th, 2006 at 1:08 pm
Yay – evrybodys on now!
August 26th, 2006 at 1:12 pm
Sraharius–
No I think Raptors here still hes just reading what everone else is sayng and speaks when he wants too.
Bexiboo–
Hmmm, thats a detail I missed. I think thats just the prochecy being spoken, not having anythign to do with Trelawny. In my opoinon Trelawny is liek a Bertha Jorkins kinda…
Hahah no guys I’m not JK! lol. And neither is anyone else here I hope. I doubt it. I’m Nikki and I’m 13 and I live in the unknown state of the USA aka Md =]
As
August 26th, 2006 at 1:20 pm
Ok! me and Sarahius just wondered… lol because ur really good at theories!
August 26th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Rapotors obbsesed with the word ciggarete
Sorry it had to be said!
And well frankly fag is a nicer word..
August 26th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Yeah I’m here! Haha
So there are a lotta reasons why Harry CANNOT be a horcrux.
a]] Someone else pointed this out I think it was Sarrahius correct me if I’m wrong, but lets say Harry killed himself because hes a horctux. Well VOldy still wouldn’t be dead because he still has the last part of his soul inside him and yo have to kill all horcruxes b4 you kill the last part of his soul.
b]] Dumbly would’ve realized if Harry was a horcrux. He’s just smart like that =
c]] Harry can do some pretty intense magic [[patrounus, knows how to fight imperius curse...etc etc]]. I thhink he would’ve realized if he had a piece of Voldy him in. I mean we don’t knwo how it feels but DUmbly did say its a bad idea to make humans/animals horcruxes bc they can see/think/feel for themselves. And plus Voldy knew what he was doing with his Horcruxes so do you really think he would want Harry to be one and have him right under Dumblys nose. But yes I do know it could be foolproof bc maybe Dumbly would kill Harry when Harry’s the only one who can destroy Voldy..but I haven’t thought about that excuse against that yet =]
d]] Neither cna live while the other survives…Oh c’mon gusy you haven’t forgotten that have you?! Let’s just say if Harry WAS a horcrux and he kills himself to kill Voldy, and we’re totally leaving out the whole piece of Voldy inside him still, and Voldy and Harry die AT THE SAME TIME. That means they would’ve lived at the same tiem and dided at the same time but that goes against Neither can live while the other survives. Now yes I know the prochecy means nothign has to happen its what prolly WILL happen. But yeah.
Yeha I’m sure that was confusing as hell. Sorry!
August 26th, 2006 at 1:28 pm
Hahash thanks.
So whats so bad about cigeratte? I’m not from where you guys are lol. But they bleep out fag on the radio. Its not a bad word cut its crude..like crap. But this is a HP site not a cuss word site so lets hurry up with this topic lol
August 26th, 2006 at 1:37 pm
Oh ok sorri … lol
August 26th, 2006 at 1:41 pm
Sorry? No I was wondering whats so bad about cigarette lol.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:43 pm
sarahius::
soooo sorry! it was just a rumor.
SO SORRY FOR GETTING EVERYS1 HOPES UP.
August 26th, 2006 at 1:44 pm
Thats ok stupid of us to belive it!
August 26th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
Well theres nothing wrong with ciggarette but frmo where i live cigarete is a posh word and well evrbody just ses fagg … O-K moving on ….
August 26th, 2006 at 3:37 pm
thanx the other chosen one!! but i duno it mite not b anything at all … its just … well ppl r saying that wasnt rili her .. its a prediction … she wasnt posesed! how else could it sum1 else … no1 gd wud wanna poses … and y wud 1 of voldis lot want ppl 2 know ?
August 26th, 2006 at 4:01 pm
Does anyone think that Voldemort will move back into the open? What was the weapon Sirius mentioned? Is there ACTUALLY a weapon? Who is R.A.B, is he alive? What are the rest of the Hocruxes?
Sorry, just giving a list of topics so everyone can get off this “cigarette” and “fag” buisness
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August 26th, 2006 at 4:16 pm
Yeaa .. wat was the secret weapon?
August 26th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
the boy who lived’ its ok. i forgive you…it wasnt your fault i chose to get excited..
ni-ni you are funny
pugman i cant wait to see that simpsons…
guys does anyone think neville and luna are in love??? poor little neville i hope that bitch bellatrix gets what she deserves.
guys are there other adults here???or are ye all 13??
August 26th, 2006 at 7:10 pm
im not 13 im 16 holla and the simpsons rule and guys i was thinking what if dragon’s blood brings oyu bac to life or someting like that and maybe harry’s parents are alive ie ghots like sir nick
August 26th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
also guys i have a book that gives somes names for the next harry potter you want me to post them
August 26th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
ya obviously
August 26th, 2006 at 8:01 pm
what you waitin for?
August 26th, 2006 at 9:22 pm
yes pugman please name some
August 26th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
all of them go harry potter and.. so i wont say harry potter for all of them but the ones that are possibles fot bk7are 1the serpent prince
the curse of the dementors
the tower of shadows
the death’s head plot
i like this one but its withdrawn harry potter and the serphants revenge
August 26th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
and guys let me know what you thought of me saying harrys parents maybe ghosts
August 26th, 2006 at 10:48 pm
guys h=HUGE THEIRY as we all know we dont knwo what RAB stanks for i have a theory like albus said no one can get a horcrux by them self(i think he said that) so what is RB is Regulus Black and A Albus give some feedbac
August 27th, 2006 at 12:32 am
i was reading the GOF and Voldemort mentioned a faithful servant he was meaning Croutch right?????? or was it someone else??????
August 27th, 2006 at 2:54 am
Voldemort said tht 1 had left his service for good, 1 is to scared to return n the last is his most loyal servant……… hmmmmm, at tht point he thought , Snape, Karakoff and Crouch.
August 27th, 2006 at 2:55 am
As 4 the titles……. I have only 1 to suggest,
Harry Potter And The Begining Of The End
August 27th, 2006 at 3:49 am
i think harrys parents are not ghosts.sorry pugman, its a good theory i just dont think they are for a good few reasons which il post if you ask me to.
also everyone r a b may not neccisarily be somebodys initials…. we presume they are but matbe theyre not. j k likes us to wonder and she likes to keep secrets,take for example eileen prince= snape,nothing alike…and tom riddle = lord voldemort so r a b could be ANYONE.maybe they are initials but keep in mind maybe not.
August 27th, 2006 at 7:26 am
pugman i can understand why you would think that harry’s parents are ghosts because their souls came out of voldemort’s wands in Goblet Of Fire but i think they’ll choose the other path, the one Sirius did.
August 27th, 2006 at 8:16 am
i think maybe someone working for Voldemort in the Ministry or Hogworts
August 27th, 2006 at 9:02 am
sarahius, Neville and Luna are not in love. In an interview she said that all Neville and Luna shippers are wasting there time, because they won’t fall in love, neither were they in love. Whilst on topic
Hermione
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What do you guys think? Does Hermione love Harry, Ron, or someone else? I think Jo’ would be slaughtered if she left this question unanswered in Book 7.
Reasons it could be Harry
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-She does like Quidditch players
-She has always been very friendly with Harry, hugging him ect, which she never has done with Ron
-She cries when she makes Harry angry, mad or upset. If you loved someone, you wouldn’t want to upset them, would you?
Reasons it could be Ron
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-She got very jealous of Ron and Lavender hooking up
-Opposites attract
Your views?
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August 27th, 2006 at 9:08 am
Sorry about the
Hermione
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Harry Someone else Ron
It was meant to come out differently, so I’ll try again.
Hermione
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Harry………….Someone Else…………….Ron
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August 27th, 2006 at 9:19 am
Jorden i think its Ron to me it seemed they got very close in bk 3 also Ron plays Quidditch
August 27th, 2006 at 9:44 am
all right well in an interview Jo says that Hermione sees herself with someone other than Ron in the Mirror or Desire/eriseD. and she said some people have already guessed who it was. so i think it’s either harry or viktor krum
August 27th, 2006 at 10:02 am
when did Hermione see the mirror of desire
August 27th, 2006 at 10:02 am
This is Potter Fan back on!
August 27th, 2006 at 10:13 am
I still wonder what the last horcrux is, and I think harry still might kill himself to kill voldemort, because he or his scar are the last one. In the book Harry will kill and find all the horcruxes, but I think he will never find the truth about the last horcrux till a battle to the death with voldemort. Harry won’t be protected by the ancient sheld his mother gave him because he come to age at 17, and dumbeldor said it won’t work anymore.
August 27th, 2006 at 10:14 am
I still wonder what the last horcrux is, and I think harry still might kill himself to kill voldemort, because he or his scar are the last one. In the book Harry will kill and find all the horcruxes, but I think he will never find the truth about the last horcrux till a battle to the death with voldemort. Harry won’t be protected by the ancient sheld his mother gave him because he come to age at 17, and dumbeldor said it won’t work anymore. I also think the book could be writen as harry being older.
August 27th, 2006 at 10:22 am
This is a really cool website, I love it. I have so many guesses about what will happen! But, every time I go on nobody will answer me, well I’m on the website. If someone puts up something will it automaticaly come up or do u have to of the website and back on?
August 27th, 2006 at 10:22 am
pugman-
jk said in an interview that she will in book seven
August 27th, 2006 at 10:23 am
Is anyone on here right now!!!!!!!
August 27th, 2006 at 10:24 am
i think the last book will begin as year seven or when harry’s 17 but i think the entire thing could be within more than one year
August 27th, 2006 at 10:25 am
What did Jk say?
August 27th, 2006 at 10:26 am
What do you think of my idea with harry being the last horcrux?
August 27th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
Uhm Pugman I dont get ur RAB theory…lol
Hmm well its obvious and safe to say Rone likes Hermione. Just look at book 4 adn 6 for that.
As for Hermione I think she likes Ron secretly. She helps him with his hw a lot more than Harry but this is easily concealed in the books. If you carefully read all the times she helps them it seems liek most of the time she helps Ron more. I dont know.
And she almost seems to encourage Harry and Ginny daitng
while with Ron and Lavendar dating she is very upset. Jealousy anyone?
And shes kissed both of them on the check. Ron def seems more “OMIGOD DID THAT JUST HAPPEN?” more than Harry times about 1,000,000,000. She also seems to stand up for Ron sometimes. And their are lotsa other clues, I’ll repost em later.
Well Hermione is sure ocnfusing with her love triangle. Whadda pimp.
August 27th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HARRY TO BE A HORCRUX.
August 27th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
I’m pretty sure the weapon was the prophecy cuz Voldy wanted it to see how to kill Harry.
What I really wanna knwo is what Snape would see if he saw a boggart, what he would be if he was an animagus, and what his patronus was. But JK said she coudln’t tell us. Phooey.
Any ideas? I guess it all really ends up being whether hes good/bad.
August 27th, 2006 at 1:01 pm
The Other Chosen One what i ment by my RAB theory is that Albus said it is very hard to get them by yourself and destroy them right?????? SO i thought RB could be Regulus Black and maybe the A stood for Albus(Dumbledore)so all in all RB is REgulus Black and the A ALbus who helped him along the way
August 27th, 2006 at 1:32 pm
Other Chosen One i think Snape’s boggart might be his father. because remember in book five in the chapter Occlumency Harry goes into snape’s mind reversing the legilimens and he sees snape in a corner and his father yelling
August 27th, 2006 at 1:34 pm
his father was yelling at his mother and snape was hiding/crying in a corner
August 27th, 2006 at 1:35 pm
i leave for 24 hours and theres like a thousand new posts!!! hii by thee way !…
August 27th, 2006 at 3:25 pm
guys listen to me now…
ok harry and ginny are in love.i know this because firstly thats what j k wrote and as i said before i think she knows what shes doin.duh also harry has always lost those he LOVED and didnt want the same to happen her because he loves her he was afraid it would..he didnt tell hermione he couldnt be around her specifically.
ron and hermione DEFINETLEY have strong feelings for each other, heres why…its obvious.she has no problem hugging harry or neville etc but when it comes to ron its awkward,as it usually is with someone you like..she smiles when ron and lavender fight, he got odd when he heard she kissed krum,even more importantly they spoke about it really didnt they???think about it,remember when in gof after the dance they were arguin that she went with krum and she says next time ask me b4 somebody else does etc.do you guys want me to keep goin??? i mean come on its obvious
August 27th, 2006 at 4:17 pm
i got a little theory— Since Dumbly died to save harry (kinda, he could have defended himself but instead protected harry), wouldnt he have protection from dumbly? it seems like sumthing dumbly would do— give harry protection just as his mothers’ was running out.
August 27th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
thats kinda interesting..but i dont know if thats possible
August 27th, 2006 at 5:31 pm
My Name, that is a very good theory, but I’d say it is not a vey possible theory. Motherly love, and the love of a friend (I think that, to Harry, Dumbledore was considered more of a friend than a Professor, though he could see his as a fatherly figure) is completly different. A mother dying for her son is a different sort of love. I can’t explain it in words, that would be impossible, something that even Jo’, or other great names in litterature could do. But you just know that it is different. But, while we are rambling on about Lilly dying for Harry we have never considered the possibility that James helped strengthen that protection, because he died for his Son AND his wife out of pure love.
And now is the time to mention this, I think. I found either a mistake, or something that could extend theories beyond belief. *Gets every Harry Potter book he owns from his bedside table, trying to remember where the mistake is*
Can’t find it, I wanted to quote it, but I’ll just say what I remember. At one point, Snape said that he went to James and Lilly’s house and tried to warn them about Voldemort, but James slammed the door in his face. Well, how did he FIND the door? Wasn’t the house under the protection of the Fidelius charm at the time? Perhaps the Fidelius charm didn’t work properly, and the blame shouln’t have fallen on Wormtail, so he fled and joined Voldemort? Mabye it wasn’t Voldemort that killed the Potters. After all, there were no witnesses, just proof. For all we know it could have been Barty Crouch before he went to Azkaban (I’m not saying I think it was, it’s just an example).
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Oh, and could I give a note of warning to everyone? If you like to post long, like me, you’d be better off highlighting all of your text, and pressing copy (Ctrl + C) because once I posted an extremly long post with alot of quotes from the book, but it didn’t appear on the page, so I had to re-type the whole thing. Just a word of warning for people like me and The Other Chosen One.
August 27th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
I’m sorry, but doesn’t anyone else think Regulus Black was way too obvious to actually be RAB? I mean, I’m pretty slow when it comes to stuff like that, so I didn’t even realize it could be him until I went online and saw practically EVERYONE saying, “RAB is Regulus Black!” But seriously, if it took some people all of five seconds to figure it out, it’s not really a mystery, is it? I think J.K.R. is a bit more subtle than that.
August 27th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Have you ever thought that RAB might stand for 3 different people?
August 27th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
she is or maybe she wants to think it RAB is Black and it really is but yeah its a complete mystery jusy like all of the theory all of us have said
August 27th, 2006 at 6:35 pm
guys vread my 2nd last comment about that r a b thing
August 27th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
it said j k probably wouldnt make it that obvious.eileen prince=snape tom riddle=voldemort etc..so most likely r a b is not gonna be initials
August 27th, 2006 at 6:38 pm
RAB, 3 people or 1, might be someone that has never been introduced in the books. I’m reading all the Harry Potter books agan and I’m on the look out for anyone that might be RAB. RAB might also be someone we all know as well, but has been using a different name.
August 27th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
also lynah
hermione may have seen her future way down the line in the mirror,like with her child or something.i dont remember that exactly though..
August 27th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
potter fan! read my comment before your last
August 27th, 2006 at 6:47 pm
i think it could be snape.i said it before and il say it again.MAYBE voldemort killed someone snape loved and he wants revenge too and decided to befriend him and then betray him.it would be AWESOME if snape stood beside harry while he (harry) killed voldemort, saying things like you fool you trusted me,haha after all i did!!you idiot,even though i betrayed you before you trusted me again hahahaHhahahahahahahha!!!!
August 27th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
i have one question though????
guys what do you think dumbledore meant by iv made mistakes.??? he said this when he was dying.just wantin to know what people think?
lynah?
livinit?
the other chosen one?
everyone?
August 27th, 2006 at 6:59 pm
Here’s a new topic, I don’t know if anyone wrote this, but I went on this one website that said JK wanted to release the next book on July 7/07. She has a thing with the number 7…… releasing the 7th book, on the 7th month, in the 7th year I wonder if she planned that. There are also 7 quidich (I know I mis spelt) players on a team, the griffendor common room is on the 7th floor, 7 is the most powerful number so voldemort made 7 horcruxes etc…
August 27th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Sarahius, Dumbledor already said what, well one of his mistake was. He said that not telling Harry right away about his destany was a mistake, he was more worried about harry being happy than the truth, remember now.
August 27th, 2006 at 7:07 pm
Did you guys notice that the time on this website is a hour slow when people post things?
August 27th, 2006 at 7:14 pm
I am so happy I found this website!
August 27th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
Here’s a new topic, I don’t know if anyone wrote this, but I went on this one website that said JK wanted to release the next book on July 7/07. She has a thing with the number 7…… releasing the 7th book, on the 7th month, in the 7th year I wonder if she planned that. There are also 7 quidich (I know I mis spelt) players on a team, the griffendor common room is on the 7th floor, 7 is the most powerful number so voldemort made 7 horcruxes etc…
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Ok, Jo’ never said anything about when it will be released and when she wants it to be release, that is a rumor. And I know you copied that almost word for word off a website, as I once stumbled onto that site
Now, back onto the topic of Mr or Mrs Black. I am calling him/her that because I know it is a Black. Quote from Wikipedia
“In several foreign-language versions of the series, the surname Black has been translated into the respective language to carry the same meaning (the colour black). In those cases, the ‘B’ in R.A.B. has been changed accordingly. For example, the Dutch edition uses the initials R.A.Z. (as in Zwarts) in the note, the Norwegian edition has R.A.S. (as in Svart), the Finnish edition has the letters R.A.M. (as in Musta)”
So, it is definitly a Black. But in an interview Jo’ this was said, and I quote
Interviewer: “Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?”
Jo’ said: “Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.”
So it is possible that he got the locket, hid it or destroyed it, then was later killed. Poor, dead Regulus
Also, I think another quote from Wikipedia is required
HP Lexicon’s “leak”
Toward the end of the summer in 2005, The Harry Potter Lexicon reported that a “well-placed source” confirmed that R.A.B. stood for “Regulus Arcturus Black”. Soon afterward, this was removed from the site, allegedly at the publisher’s request. In MuggleCast Episode 7, Melissa Anelli reported that she had a good idea what the source was, but that she would not be much more specific out of respect for the HP-Lexicon’s webmaster. However, she did somewhat defend the credibility of the source and hint at his/her identity with the following statement:
“Well, I just want to address what people say, when they say how could it be anybody other than JK Rowling? It could very well be somebody other than JK Rowling. Clearly any information that is accurate about the books ultimately comes from JK Rowling, but many people are now involved making sure her books go around the world, go into different editions, go to the illustrators. You know what I mean? So different people need to see different things.”
Well, I’m pretty certain it was Regulus now. Lets sum things up. It was definitly a Black, and Sirius said he was the last living Black. But perhaps Regulus didn’t die, and Sirius was wrong.
But then we ask ourselves “But how would poor ol’ Regulus get his hands on that locket himself?”, and then after a few minutes of careful thinking, our mind has a click. ‘Kreacher’!
Regulus would be the last living person with the Black name after Sirius’s death (or supposed death, he could still be alive) so Kreacher would be sure to follow orders from him. Then, back to square one, “How did two magical creatures get across the lake in that boat?” Well, it has been confimed that Elves have their own brand of magic, and probably got in undetected.
But I think one more quote from Wikipedia is in order, just so this theory doesn’t come to a complete halt.
“The object which had replaced the real Horcrux was a locket. Dumbledore believed the real Horcrux to also be a locket, once the property of Salazar Slytherin. Chapter Six of The Order of the Phoenix mentions a heavy, unopenable locket in a glass case at number 12 Grimmauld Place. The locket was amongst property discarded by Sirius Black as he undertook a total cleaning of the house. There was no mention of it having a Slytherin seal, which the real Slytherin locket is known to have. The locket may have been taken either by the house elf Kreacher, who was trying to save Black family artifacts from the house cleaning, or stolen by Mundungus Fletcher, who was keen to exploit the financial potential of any neglected goods. Mundungus is later spotted with a suitcase full of possessions taken from the house, and in the company of the barman from the Hog’s Head. J. K. Rowling confirmed the barman is Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth. Aberforth was seen drawing his cloak about his throat, as if concealing something, as he walked away from the scene. It is possible that he now has the locket. Mundungus was later arrested and taken to Azkaban prison.”
I’d like to direct attention to the last bit of the quote. Could Aberforth have been concealing something? I’m tired of explaining, I want answers off you guys!
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Jordan
PS: I think this is my longest post here
August 27th, 2006 at 8:54 pm
Maybe RAB is three different people…but who? There’s no way I’m going to figure it out. Just like when I read all the other books and a mystery way revealed, I will probably gasp “oh! it was so obvious!” but whatever.
And why do I still see people debating if Ron and Hermione like each other? THEY DO, AND IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE, GET OVER IT! I mean, by now it’s just obvious, and second, rowling herself said “We all know now that it is Ron and Hermione” or something to that effect. whether they get together is a completely different story.
August 27th, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Here’s a new topic, I don’t know if anyone wrote this, but I went on this one website that said JK wanted to release the next book on July 7/07. She has a thing with the number 7…… releasing the 7th book, on the 7th month, in the 7th year I wonder if she planned that. There are also 7 quidich (I know I mis spelt) players on a team, the griffendor common room is on the 7th floor, 7 is the most powerful number so voldemort made 7 horcruxes etc…
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Ok, Jo’ never said anything about when it will be released and when she wants it to be release, that is a rumor. And I know you copied that almost word for word off a website, as I once stumbled onto that site
Now, back onto the topic of Mr or Mrs Black. I am calling him/her that because I know it is a Black. Quote from Wikipedia
“In several foreign-language versions of the series, the surname Black has been translated into the respective language to carry the same meaning (the colour black). In those cases, the ‘B’ in R.A.B. has been changed accordingly. For example, the Dutch edition uses the initials R.A.Z. (as in Zwarts) in the note, the Norwegian edition has R.A.S. (as in Svart), the Finnish edition has the letters R.A.M. (as in Musta)”
So, it is definitly a Black. But in an interview Jo’ this was said, and I quote
Interviewer: “Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?”
Jo’ said: “Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.”
So it is possible that he got the locket, hid it or destroyed it, then was later killed. Poor, dead Regulus
Also, I think another quote from Wikipedia is required
HP Lexicon’s “leak”
Toward the end of the summer in 2005, The Harry Potter Lexicon reported that a “well-placed source” confirmed that R.A.B. stood for “Regulus Arcturus Black”. Soon afterward, this was removed from the site, allegedly at the publisher’s request. In MuggleCast Episode 7, Melissa Anelli reported that she had a good idea what the source was, but that she would not be much more specific out of respect for the HP-Lexicon’s webmaster. However, she did somewhat defend the credibility of the source and hint at his/her identity with the following statement:
“Well, I just want to address what people say, when they say how could it be anybody other than JK Rowling? It could very well be somebody other than JK Rowling. Clearly any information that is accurate about the books ultimately comes from JK Rowling, but many people are now involved making sure her books go around the world, go into different editions, go to the illustrators. You know what I mean? So different people need to see different things.”
Well, I’m pretty certain it was Regulus now. Lets sum things up. It was definitly a Black, and Sirius said he was the last living Black. But perhaps Regulus didn’t die, and Sirius was wrong.
But then we ask ourselves “But how would poor ol’ Regulus get his hands on that locket himself?”, and then after a few minutes of careful thinking, our mind has a click. ‘Kreacher’!
Regulus would be the last living person with the Black name after Sirius’s death (or supposed death, he could still be alive) so Kreacher would be sure to follow orders from him. Then, back to square one, “How did two magical creatures get across the lake in that boat?” Well, it has been confimed that Elves have their own brand of magic, and probably got in undetected.
But I think one more quote from Wikipedia is in order, just so this theory doesn’t come to a complete halt.
“The object which had replaced the real Horcrux was a locket. Dumbledore believed the real Horcrux to also be a locket, once the property of Salazar Slytherin. Chapter Six of The Order of the Phoenix mentions a heavy, unopenable locket in a glass case at number 12 Grimmauld Place. The locket was amongst property discarded by Sirius Black as he undertook a total cleaning of the house. There was no mention of it having a Slytherin seal, which the real Slytherin locket is known to have. The locket may have been taken either by the house elf Kreacher, who was trying to save Black family artifacts from the house cleaning, or stolen by Mundungus Fletcher, who was keen to exploit the financial potential of any neglected goods. Mundungus is later spotted with a suitcase full of possessions taken from the house, and in the company of the barman from the Hog’s Head. J. K. Rowling confirmed the barman is Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth. Aberforth was seen drawing his cloak about his throat, as if concealing something, as he walked away from the scene. It is possible that he now has the locket. Mundungus was later arrested and taken to Azkaban prison.”
I’d like to direct attention to the last bit of the quote. Could Aberforth have been concealing something? I’m tired of explaining, I want answers off you guys!
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Jordan
PS: I think this is my longest post here
August 27th, 2006 at 8:57 pm
Here’s a new topic, I don’t know if anyone wrote this, but I went on this one website that said JK wanted to release the next book on July 7/07. She has a thing with the number 7…… releasing the 7th book, on the 7th month, in the 7th year I wonder if she planned that. There are also 7 quidich (I know I mis spelt) players on a team, the griffendor common room is on the 7th floor, 7 is the most powerful number so voldemort made 7 horcruxes etc…
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Ok, Jo’ never said anything about when it will be released and when she wants it to be release, that is a rumor. And I know you copied that almost word for word off a website, as I once stumbled onto that site
Now, back onto the topic of Mr or Mrs Black. I am calling him/her that because I know it is a Black. Quote from Wikipedia
“In several foreign-language versions of the series, the surname Black has been translated into the respective language to carry the same meaning (the colour black). In those cases, the ‘B’ in R.A.B. has been changed accordingly. For example, the Dutch edition uses the initials R.A.Z. (as in Zwarts) in the note, the Norwegian edition has R.A.S. (as in Svart), the Finnish edition has the letters R.A.M. (as in Musta)”
So, it is definitly a Black. But in an interview Jo’ this was said, and I quote
Interviewer: “Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?”
Jo’ said: “Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.”
So it is possible that he got the locket, hid it or destroyed it, then was later killed. Poor, dead Regulus
Also, I think another quote from Wikipedia is required
HP Lexicon’s “leak”
Toward the end of the summer in 2005, The Harry Potter Lexicon reported that a “well-placed source” confirmed that R.A.B. stood for “Regulus Arcturus Black”. Soon afterward, this was removed from the site, allegedly at the publisher’s request. In MuggleCast Episode 7, Melissa Anelli reported that she had a good idea what the source was, but that she would not be much more specific out of respect for the HP-Lexicon’s webmaster. However, she did somewhat defend the credibility of the source and hint at his/her identity with the following statement:
“Well, I just want to address what people say, when they say how could it be anybody other than JK Rowling? It could very well be somebody other than JK Rowling. Clearly any information that is accurate about the books ultimately comes from JK Rowling, but many people are now involved making sure her books go around the world, go into different editions, go to the illustrators. You know what I mean? So different people need to see different things.”
Well, I’m pretty certain it was Regulus now. Lets sum things up. It was definitly a Black, and Sirius said he was the last living Black. But perhaps Regulus didn’t die, and Sirius was wrong.
But then we ask ourselves “But how would poor ol’ Regulus get his hands on that locket himself?”, and then after a few minutes of careful thinking, our mind has a click. ‘Kreacher’!
Regulus would be the last living person with the Black name after Sirius’s death (or supposed death, he could still be alive) so Kreacher would be sure to follow orders from him. Then, back to square one, “How did two magical creatures get across the lake in that boat?” Well, it has been confimed that Elves have their own brand of magic, and probably got in undetected.
But I think one more quote from Wikipedia is in order, just so this theory doesn’t come to a complete halt.
“The object which had replaced the real Horcrux was a locket. Dumbledore believed the real Horcrux to also be a locket, once the property of Salazar Slytherin. Chapter Six of The Order of the Phoenix mentions a heavy, unopenable locket in a glass case at number 12 Grimmauld Place. The locket was amongst property discarded by Sirius Black as he undertook a total cleaning of the house. There was no mention of it having a Slytherin seal, which the real Slytherin locket is known to have. The locket may have been taken either by the house elf Kreacher, who was trying to save Black family artifacts from the house cleaning, or stolen by Mundungus Fletcher, who was keen to exploit the financial potential of any neglected goods. Mundungus is later spotted with a suitcase full of possessions taken from the house, and in the company of the barman from the Hog’s Head. J. K. Rowling confirmed the barman is Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth. Aberforth was seen drawing his cloak about his throat, as if concealing something, as he walked away from the scene. It is possible that he now has the locket. Mundungus was later arrested and taken to Azkaban prison.”
I’d like to direct attention to the last bit of the quote. Could Aberforth have been concealing something? I’m tired of explaining, I want answers off you guys!
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Jordan
PS: I think this is my longest post here
PPS: 3rd attept at posting this. I’m glad I clicked “copy”
August 27th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Here’s a new topic, I don’t know if anyone wrote this, but I went on this one website that said JK wanted to release the next book on July 7/07. She has a thing with the number 7…… releasing the 7th book, on the 7th month, in the 7th year I wonder if she planned that. There are also 7 quidich (I know I mis spelt) players on a team, the griffendor common room is on the 7th floor, 7 is the most powerful number so voldemort made 7 horcruxes etc…
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Ok, Jo’ never said anything about when it will be released and when she wants it to be release, that is a rumor. And I know you copied that almost word for word off a website, as I once stumbled onto that site
Now, back onto the topic of Mr or Mrs Black. I am calling him/her that because I know it is a Black. Quote from Wikipedia
“In several foreign-language versions of the series, the surname Black has been translated into the respective language to carry the same meaning (the colour black). In those cases, the ‘B’ in R.A.B. has been changed accordingly. For example, the Dutch edition uses the initials R.A.Z. (as in Zwarts) in the note, the Norwegian edition has R.A.S. (as in Svart), the Finnish edition has the letters R.A.M. (as in Musta)”
So, it is definitly a Black. But in an interview Jo’ this was said, and I quote
Interviewer: “Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?”
Jo’ said: “Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.”
So it is possible that he got the locket, hid it or destroyed it, then was later killed. Poor, dead Regulus
Also, I think another quote from Wikipedia is required
HP Lexicon’s “leak”
Toward the end of the summer in 2005, The Harry Potter Lexicon reported that a “well-placed source” confirmed that R.A.B. stood for “Regulus Arcturus Black”. Soon afterward, this was removed from the site, allegedly at the publisher’s request. In MuggleCast Episode 7, Melissa Anelli reported that she had a good idea what the source was, but that she would not be much more specific out of respect for the HP-Lexicon’s webmaster. However, she did somewhat defend the credibility of the source and hint at his/her identity with the following statement:
“Well, I just want to address what people say, when they say how could it be anybody other than JK Rowling? It could very well be somebody other than JK Rowling. Clearly any information that is accurate about the books ultimately comes from JK Rowling, but many people are now involved making sure her books go around the world, go into different editions, go to the illustrators. You know what I mean? So different people need to see different things.”
Well, I’m pretty certain it was Regulus now. Lets sum things up. It was definitly a Black, and Sirius said he was the last living Black. But perhaps Regulus didn’t die, and Sirius was wrong.
But then we ask ourselves “But how would poor ol’ Regulus get his hands on that locket himself?”, and then after a few minutes of careful thinking, our mind has a click. ‘Kreacher’!
Regulus would be the last living person with the Black name after Sirius’s death (or supposed death, he could still be alive) so Kreacher would be sure to follow orders from him. Then, back to square one, “How did two magical creatures get across the lake in that boat?” Well, it has been confimed that Elves have their own brand of magic, and probably got in undetected.
But I think one more quote from Wikipedia is in order, just so this theory doesn’t come to a complete halt.
“The object which had replaced the real Horcrux was a locket. Dumbledore believed the real Horcrux to also be a locket, once the property of Salazar Slytherin. Chapter Six of The Order of the Phoenix mentions a heavy, unopenable locket in a glass case at number 12 Grimmauld Place. The locket was amongst property discarded by Sirius Black as he undertook a total cleaning of the house. There was no mention of it having a Slytherin seal, which the real Slytherin locket is known to have. The locket may have been taken either by the house elf Kreacher, who was trying to save Black family artifacts from the house cleaning, or stolen by Mundungus Fletcher, who was keen to exploit the financial potential of any neglected goods. Mundungus is later spotted with a suitcase full of possessions taken from the house, and in the company of the barman from the Hog’s Head. J. K. Rowling confirmed the barman is Dumbledore’s brother Aberforth. Aberforth was seen drawing his cloak about his throat, as if concealing something, as he walked away from the scene. It is possible that he now has the locket. Mundungus was later arrested and taken to Azkaban prison.”
I’d like to direct attention to the last bit of the quote. Could Aberforth have been concealing something? I’m tired of explaining, I want answers off you guys!
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Jordan
August 27th, 2006 at 9:21 pm
ok i ahve a theory but it is kinda weird and far fetched in HBP when Voldemort was reapplying for the DADA at Hogworts he didnt get yeah we know but Voldemort reached for his wand and twitched (sometihng like that)maybe maybe Voldmoert said a spell in his mind and made Dumbledore a horcrux cause i guess theres a chacne since hes dead
August 27th, 2006 at 9:26 pm
That would be impossible. You have to kill someone, and then make the Horcrux, possibly using their soul to merge with a part of your soul, and what you make into the Horcrux.
“For a second, Harry was on the verge of shouting a pointless warning;he was sure that Voldemorts hand twitched towards his pocket and his wand; but the moment had passed, Voldemort had turned away, the door was closing and he was gone.”
Voldemort never touched his wand, so no spell was cast. Attacking Dumbledore had just crossed his mind for a moment, that’s all.
August 27th, 2006 at 9:27 pm
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Jordan
August 27th, 2006 at 9:34 pm
Sarahius-
what dumbledore meant was the “old man’s mistake” in his words. his mistake was that he loved harry and he didn’t want to because by loving harry he worried more about harry’s happiness than what he knew he must tell him
August 27th, 2006 at 10:13 pm
Jordan–
Hahah yeah thats happened to me A LOT b4 I do that every time now lol I love the short copy and paste.
By the way, if your post is really really long and it doesnt show up and first give it liek 10-15 minutes bc it takes awhile. Once I retyped my really long theory like 3 times and then next thing I know it shows up 3 huge long things…
Thanks though!
August 27th, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Aghhh everytime I leave theres about 100 new posts! So I try to just skim over them, if there something you gusy want me to read just tell me the date/time and I’ll read it.
Pugman–
It does make sense now but why would DUmbly send Harry with him if he knew it was a fake?
August 27th, 2006 at 10:18 pm
i agree other chosen one. i had always wanted it to be that dumbledore set it up but i never really knew why he brought harry. unless he needed someone to explain to the others what happened. you know to make it all believable but still i don’t think it was a set up anymore
August 27th, 2006 at 10:21 pm
RAB–
I’m still going with my “it could be Regulus and Kreacher or it could be Slughorn” theory. But if we think its 3 diff people we need to find ppl in he Potter books that first/last names starts with R, A, or B. I think they would use their last name but who knows.
August 27th, 2006 at 11:14 pm
the other chosen one if albus knew it was fake maybe he was shwing harry what the horcrux challenge would be like
August 28th, 2006 at 1:04 am
i was readin the GOF and read a very god point how the hell is Harry going to kill Voldemort or vice versa(unlikly Voldemort will win) but we need to rember their wands are brothers both of them have a feather from a phoniez(Fawkes Albus’s phoniex) and when they meet in battle its they connect so gonna be fun to see how Voldmoert is gonna die or vice versa
let me know what you think of my theory
August 28th, 2006 at 5:17 am
Jordan,I agree with you about the importance of Harrys blood now be in Voldermort.Its probably going turn be one of the most important things in the end.On your other theory about Harry and Hermione,yeah I think she loves him very much and she would probably do anything for him but that doesnt mean she wants to be his girlfriend.Besides Sarahius is right,Jk does seem to be pointing out that shes clearly more interested in ron.
Okay,one last response for you.I do think Voldermort will come back into the open,The books are hardly going to end without us getting a firsthand look at the damage and destruction he and his deatheaters can cause the wizarding and the muggle community.Oh and very funny about the squid,didnt think anyone would notice,haha.
Potter fan,what you said about Harry being a horcrux.He cant be,remember when Voldermort asked Slughorn about them?well that obviously suggests that there is a powerful and difficult spell to be performed to create one.So my point is he couldnt possibly have made Harry one by accident and we know he didnt do it on purpose because he keeps trying to end Harrys life.Also as many people have already stated,horcruxes cant talk or draw attention to theselves and are usually kept well protected with powerful curses and spells.
The other chosen one,I think your really really long theory is fantastic and more people should have commented on it.I just have a teeny little bit of trouble believing that your only thirteen.But anyway I agree with pretty much all of it.
Sarahius,really good point about RAB being something else besides initials,I just know it will probably turn out to be something really significant.
Lynah,I agree with you that Snape is good,I have apsolutely nothing to back it up on but I just believe it.
Pugman,I dont agree or disagree with your point about Harrys parants being ghosts but its possible.And if you think they are,do you have any ideas as to where theyve been hiding out all this time?
So sorry guys about making that so long but I wanted to give you all something to think about.Try not to fall asleep…
August 28th, 2006 at 11:02 am
pugman that priori incantatem only happened because they both fired a spell at the same exact time. remember Voldemort did the Cruciatus Curse on harry and it worked for him
August 28th, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Pugman–
Yes right after I posted that I realized “maybe Dumbly
was showing Harry what it would be liek to obtain a horcrux.”
Lynah–
Yeah, it only works at the same time..SOMEONME ELSE GETS IT!!
August 28th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
Voldy will not die of some spell or a curse. He is too smart and powerful for that. And plus anyone can do that. Him being killed will be some of the deepest magic ever possible which is why Harry is the only one that can and must kill him.
August 28th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
Helo
August 28th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
hey everyone.what we talkin about?
August 28th, 2006 at 1:45 pm
Horcruxes, RAB, Voldy dying, Priori Incantatem…
August 28th, 2006 at 1:53 pm
ooh i had an idea!! … JKR sed that she chances r very slim of her making and 8th book!
buut she has alredy made her mind up on who dies!! … (out of harry and voldi that is)
what wud harry potter and the (sumthing) b WITHOUT harry potter!!
dus that make sence
August 28th, 2006 at 2:36 pm
Hey guys, anyone there, did anyone read what I wrote about when the book is going to come out on July 7/07, and that Jk has a thing with the number 7. The next movie is also supos to come out on July 13/07.
August 28th, 2006 at 2:37 pm
bexi-boo i suppose so …. but she sed she was going to end it so that no 1 else culd carry it on e.g tell them all about their futures if any of them survive (harri, ron, hermy, ginnie ect ect)
August 28th, 2006 at 2:38 pm
Potter Fan
i know we all know
August 28th, 2006 at 2:41 pm
I still think JK has a thing for the number 7, mabe it’s her lucky number, with the 7th book coming out on the 7th day of the 7th month of the 7th year, and there being 7 quitich players, and having the griffendor common room on the 7th floor, and having the number 7 as the most powerful magic number so voldy made 7 horcruxes.
August 28th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
of course.seven is the most important number in magic so obviously
August 28th, 2006 at 4:52 pm
guys i just had a theory,maybe its completely wrong but…is it possible that r a b does not exist at all… that voldemort himself took back the horcrux an wants harry to think someone else did it?? i cant remember, maybe ye can remind me if its possible.
August 28th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
anything is possible but it makes it kinda weird with the note
August 28th, 2006 at 5:34 pm
pugman
ya i know but he would or could be tricking harry with the note.its just a suggestion im not sure.
August 28th, 2006 at 5:46 pm
Maybe voldemort knew someone was after or knew about his horcruxes so he planted a fake note, to have people wasteing there time over a person that doesn’t exist.
August 28th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
It is possible….think about it…..
August 28th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
exactly thats what im saying.maybe…
August 28th, 2006 at 5:54 pm
Hello..?
August 28th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
hello what
August 28th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
question guys how old are most people here.?? i cant believe some of ye are 13 thats amazing.
August 28th, 2006 at 6:06 pm
Do you think Sirius will ever come back? I mean dumbly died with the killing curse so he can’t come back to life or anything. But remember how harry heard whispers behind the arch, I think the arch could act like some kind of comunication between the living and the dead…. this is the magic world. Maybe Harry could talk to his parents and Sirius though it?
August 28th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
Were both 13 how old are you sarahius?!
August 28th, 2006 at 6:13 pm
im an adult! i still love harry potter
August 28th, 2006 at 6:14 pm
this prolly has alrdy been discussed but… what about the locket they found in the 5th book? the one that no one could open at sirius’ place/? could that possibly be slytherin’s locket?
August 28th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
some of you seem so smart.ye give better theories than i do.good for ye.
August 28th, 2006 at 6:17 pm
my name i forgot about that!!!hmmm….
August 28th, 2006 at 6:19 pm
but if by sum chance it was, that would seem like RAB was regulas or sumone who had acess to the black house…? it seems to obvious though…
August 28th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
i know but it could be straight forward for once,r a b maybe is regulus – black
August 28th, 2006 at 6:24 pm
maybe— the only thing that im really sure of is that harry will turn 17 and there will be sum sort of confrontation between him and voldy— lol
August 28th, 2006 at 6:26 pm
i know there are so many theories. i just wanna know guys who thinks snape is good and who thinks hes bad???and why?
August 28th, 2006 at 6:28 pm
well the arch I think Harry talk to Sirus see him in someway as talking to his parents I dont think so b/c I think maybe you can only talk to the people through it and rember in bk1 MAGIC cannt bring you back to life maybe a potion its not really magic(im kinda hoping Albus will come bac its seems hard for me to believe that jk would just kill ALbus and he wont be in the last bk)
August 28th, 2006 at 7:18 pm
i think snape is good cuase dumbly is a good judge of character and a good legilimense (however its spelled) there are other reasons but i dont have time to write them right now
August 28th, 2006 at 7:48 pm
WE think so to, dumbly is such a great wizard that he misjudge somebody like snape…. but snape is so good at occulency that you could never really tell whose side he’s on.
August 28th, 2006 at 9:44 pm
hey guys i think weve done this but lets try and guess the last horcrux ie what its and where
August 28th, 2006 at 11:09 pm
guys what if the arch is like the cabinit in the room of requirment
August 29th, 2006 at 4:02 am
i think snape is good aswell cus he ahd to kill dumbledore because of the unbreakable vow or wateva it is called other wise he (snape) would of died and when snape is about to kill dumbledore, dumbledore pleads with him to kill him ??maybe????
August 29th, 2006 at 7:48 am
Jordan,I agree with you about the importance of Harrys blood now be in Voldermort.Its probably going turn be one of the most important things in the end.On your other theory about Harry and Hermione,yeah I think she loves him very much and she would probably do anything for him but that doesnt mean she wants to be his girlfriend.Besides Sarahius is right,Jk does seem to be pointing out that shes clearly more interested in ron.
Okay,one last response for you.I do think Voldermort will come back into the open,The books are hardly going to end without us getting a firsthand look at the damage and destruction he and his deatheaters can cause the wizarding and the muggle community.Oh and very funny about the squid,didnt think anyone would notice,haha
August 29th, 2006 at 7:49 am
Potter fan,what you said about Harry being a horcrux.He cant be,remember when Voldermort asked Slughorn about them?well that obviously suggests that there is a powerful and difficult spell to be performed to create one.So my point is he couldnt possibly have made Harry one by accident and we know he didnt do it on purpose because he keeps trying to end Harrys life.Also as many people have already stated,horcruxes cant talk or draw attention to theselves and are usually kept well protected with powerful curses and spells.
The other chosen one,I think your really really long theory is fantastic and more people should have commented on it.I just have a teeny little bit of trouble believing that your only thirteen.But anyway I agree with pretty much all of it.
August 29th, 2006 at 7:49 am
Sarahius,really good point about RAB being something else besides initials,I just know it will probably turn out to be something really significant.
Lynah,I agree with you that Snape is good,I have apsolutely nothing to back it up on but I just believe it.
Pugman,I dont agree or disagree with your point about Harrys parants being ghosts but its possible.And if you think they are,do you have any ideas as to where theyve been hiding out all this time?
August 29th, 2006 at 8:01 am
Potter fan,what you said about Harry being a horcrux.He cant be,remember when Voldermort asked Slughorn about them?well that obviously suggests that there is a powerful and difficult spell to be performed to create one.So my point is he couldnt possibly have made Harry one by accident and we know he didnt do it on purpose because he keeps trying to end Harrys life.Also as many people have already stated,horcruxes cant talk or draw attention to theselves and are usually kept well protected with powerful curses and spells
August 29th, 2006 at 8:02 am
The other chosen one,I think your really really long theory is fantastic and more people should have commented on it.I just have a teeny little bit of trouble believing that your only thirteen.But anyway I agree with pretty much all of it.
August 29th, 2006 at 8:05 am
livin it your comments make so much sense. i think i agree with most but not that harrys parents could be ghosts.i dont think they are.its not jk style.if his parents were ghosts theyd have contacted him.
August 29th, 2006 at 8:24 am
Thanx Sarahius,you,ve got some good theories too.Id like to hear more about how you think RAB may not even exist.It really could be Voldermort.
August 29th, 2006 at 9:07 am
Sarahius–
I think hes good. Heres the theory i have on it. Sorry for those who have alrdy read it.
If you read like every single interview anyone has ever had with her [[aka ME]] you will know that the Order uses its patronusus [[I can’t spell I know..]] to contact each other and Dumbly’s patronus is Fawkes. Now before you start throwing rock at me and saying “I don’t read interviews and I knew that!†you probably do need to read the interviews to know you need to be loyal to Dumbly to use Fawkes [[ore to contact him]].
Okay, so what?
Well, so what is remember in the 5th book when Hermy and Harry take Umbridgeinto the forest and then they come out and leave for the Department of Mysteries?
Good.
And do you remember when suddenly Dumbly came to Harry’s astonishment at the DoM to save the day?
Good.
And finally do you remember the whole shpeell Dumbly gave Harry at the end when he tells him EVERYTHING including all the events that happened that night?
Very good. And before you say “HOW THE HECK DOES THIS INVOLVE SNAPE?!†think back…Why did the Order and Dumbly come? How did they know Harry went to the DoM?
Yes, we’re finally there. Snape.
Snape told Dumbly. Snape watched the 6 of them fly outta Hogwarts and off to London. And how does one contact Dumbly? With Fawkes, of course. And how does one use Fawkes? By being loyal to Dumbly.
August 29th, 2006 at 9:14 am
so…many…new…posts…
August 29th, 2006 at 9:16 am
Okay guys its official there will be no quidditch in book 5 =[
August 29th, 2006 at 9:16 am
movie 5 I mean.
August 29th, 2006 at 10:53 am
livin it i think harry parents maybe at godrics hollow
August 29th, 2006 at 11:15 am
Somebody said ages ago that Godrics hollow was distroyed,does anyone know anything about that?
Also,I just read something very interesting about Snape on the website called Veritaserum.It suggests that Snape may have been in love with Lily….I know we,re all quick to say ‘NO,THATS NOT TRUE’ but,there are some extremely well thought out points to back it up!
August 29th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
how old is evri 1 ere? but ummmm heiia!!
August 29th, 2006 at 12:28 pm
wat r we talkin about by the way …. and is there any chance that the sorting hat is a horcrux ??
in 1 of the songs … did it say slyerin out some brains in me ??
if slyerin can put brins in him … there is nothing sayin sum soul cant b out in him!! and just like the diary it thinks 4 it self (well that was untill the diary was destroyed)
August 29th, 2006 at 3:04 pm
No the hat was godricks and they all put brains in him butt err i duno i dont rili think its a horcrux sorrio
August 29th, 2006 at 3:27 pm
what about the locket that was found in the 5th book? it was at sirius’ house and no one could open it? could it perhaps be slytherins? but then it would seem like RAB was regulus or sumone with acsess to the black house? :-S
August 29th, 2006 at 3:30 pm
OOO i just thought of sumthing—- what if regulus was a spy? wut if he was working for dumbly to find out if there were horcruxes or just to find out wut voldy was up to ? wut do u guys think?
August 29th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
there s one thing i dont understand, why didnt dumbly just pour the potion into another container? if a goblet could get into the basin, why didnt he just transferr it to a pitcher or dump it on the ground>>?
August 29th, 2006 at 5:15 pm
well guys i have a theory in the GoF i may be thinking of the movie or the book or maybe its both wehn Harry went into the Pensive he saw Albus at the council and DE was giving names and Sanpe was one of them and ALbus said he turned spy for us and the next name was Barty Criuch JR so maybe Crouch told Voldemort that Snape was a spy
August 29th, 2006 at 6:29 pm
good point pugman. very good point but he was Imperiized so maybe something happened there. but still very good point
August 29th, 2006 at 7:00 pm
i was wondering what people think will happen to hogwarts????
August 29th, 2006 at 7:43 pm
Another Harry-Hermione theory (Sorry, but I hate the idea of Ron and Hermione)
Ok, if Hermione cares deeply about Harry (which I’m sure she does) after Book 5, in the Department of Mysteries Hermione realized (being the clever girl she is) that if she didn’t back off Harry a bit Voldemort would do something to hurt Harry, using her. But because Ron and Hermione being friends wasn’t a threat, she didn’t treat Ron any differently, therefore making it seem like she likes Ron more.
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Jordan
August 29th, 2006 at 9:10 pm
i agree jordan. i do think that hermione likes harry
August 30th, 2006 at 4:46 am
my names last entry of the 3 in the row (lol)!!
i do actualy think that makes sence! rili rili GOOD point! …. the only thing is …. is he thort voldimort was the 1 who out the potion into the basin!
he throt that voldimort wud of made it so it had 2 b drank! … 2 weeken them!
but the person was rili RAB who bu the potion in there … every1 thinks diferent!
but one thing i thort of is what if … like my name sed … RAB put the potion into another goblet of aomthingandthen placed the locket (fake) into the basin and poured the solution back over it!!
August 30th, 2006 at 4:48 am
sorrri i cant actuay what ”aomthingandthen” means! all i know os that i 4got 2 presss the space bar! lol
August 30th, 2006 at 6:03 am
jordan and
lynah
listen harry and ginny
ron and hermione
seriously guys its jks book and thats what she wrote.
how many more times must it be said??
harry broke up with ginny because he was afraid she would get hurt by voldemort because HE LOVES HER and voldemort hurts those harry loves most,his parents ,sirius ,dumbledore etc
August 30th, 2006 at 6:31 am
weneva i put a comment evry1 just ignores it and dont comment about it i no im new to this site but it dunt mean u have to ignroe me
:(
August 30th, 2006 at 7:23 am
Heeloo.. master mind im not igmoring yoo!
But what was ur last theory about ? ?
August 30th, 2006 at 7:24 am
lmao dw ive bn here a while no 1 bothers 2 take notice 2 my entry thngy no more bcos they neva make sence!:P
August 30th, 2006 at 11:02 am
Sarahius i know that’s how the relationships were in the sixth book but there’s still a whole other book and Hermione is supposed to see herself in the Mirror of Erised with someone other than Ron in book seven. jk said it in one of her interviews. i think it’s harry who hermione will see with her
August 30th, 2006 at 12:10 pm
lynah.no not a chance.iv already suggested she might see herself in the mirror way in the future with her child, or with harry maybe yeah.but not for that reason,but thats your opinion and thats cool,i just dont agree with you( for once usually i do!)
mastermind i think you really have good points and i dont ignore them.what do you think will happen at hogwarts. do you think it will close?
everybody?
August 30th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
no if t does close its like to me whats the point of the book 7 o harry ron and hermonie find another horcrux YAY
August 30th, 2006 at 12:32 pm
i think it wont be like that pugman.i mean harry is not going back we know that right, but i think there will be like a ‘war’ between him and voldemort, and things EVERYWHERE will change.
August 30th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
the pont of book 7 ???
hello?
no offence but what about revenge? hate ? answers? the end of the “war”harry finding out about his parents and their jobs, him planning his future. etc the point of book 7 is and means EVERYTHING. whether they are in hogwarts or not!!!
i dont think it will close myself tho.it was just a suggestion.i do think they will close for a while tho because parents and students will be scared.
August 30th, 2006 at 1:44 pm
thank you sarahius. i can see where your coming from too. it doesn’t have to be someone who she is “in-love” with. it could be anyone she cares for. and i think that you are very right about that. i was caught on the thought that it had to be some boy that she liked.
but i think hogwarts will stay open because of what Harry has told the teachers. that Dumbledore “will only be dead when none are loyal to him”
August 30th, 2006 at 1:46 pm
but i don’t know if the main characters will go back. i don’t really have a reason why Neville wouldn’t go back but he’s sorta like a regular now. he’s one of harry’s close friends and he has always helped out harry when harry needed it. does anyone agree
August 30th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Sarahius i also agree with you on your view of book seven. i knew it wouldn’t take playce at hogwarts the whole time. it was confirmed that would happen at the end of book six. although Pugman it will be a lot different seeing as we will not be hearing of harry’s classes or of his classmates or even the one and only Draco Malfoy will not be in every scene like he normally is.
August 30th, 2006 at 1:50 pm
lynah i agree with you.neville is and has been very important,i think hel play a bigger part in 7. probably kill bellatrix.
August 30th, 2006 at 1:58 pm
no i think wel hear mostly from harry,snape ginny, neville the malfoys,bellatrix etc.and very very little from the school or other students until maybe the end if harry goes back after winning
August 30th, 2006 at 1:59 pm
and ron and hermione
August 30th, 2006 at 2:18 pm
umm helo u ppl who ignore me .. not my folt im dull
August 30th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
lynah what i ment by hogworts staying open its like albus siad he wants open even heres there or not b/c i think the last horcrux is in the school and yes guys nevile is gonna be a big help to harry and i hope his parents will com bac
August 30th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
What if the Death Eaters took the sword from Godric Gryffindor, on the night they did their attack on Hogwarts? I also think RAB has been a Death Eater, because only the Death Eaters know about the ways Voldy protected himself to prevent dying. He said that in book 4: ‘I, who followed the path to immortality further than anyone in this world’. He also said: You know in which ways I protected myself. When RAB was a Death Eater, he could know the secret of the Horcruxes.
Another question: What does the Draught of the Living Death do? I read on a site that it could wake up dead people for an hour time.
August 30th, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Pugman-
i understand what you mean i and that would be pretty cool if the last horcrux was in there and voldemort put his horcruxes in important places and Hogwarts was his favorite place ever. so agree
Jumpfield-
if the Draught of the Living Death does do that, that’d be freaking awesome. but would they like have to put it in the corpse or something. how would they make it work
August 30th, 2006 at 3:05 pm
i thinik there maybe another room that no one know(except Voldmoert of course duh)
August 30th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
well Moony and Wormtail might know where it is because they made the Marauders Map
August 30th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
i think if they knew it would have been on the map because the room of requirement was on it and that was a secret.i do wonder about the draught of the living death does alright but i dont think its a good thing. id say its a dark art
August 30th, 2006 at 3:44 pm
lynah i was wondering what you think about what harrys parents may have done??
and also what you thought about snape?
August 30th, 2006 at 4:00 pm
i think snape is good personally simply because i think dumbledore is soooo so intelligent and knows things we and harry dont. however snape being R,A,B makes sense also.i thought about it and believed that probably was the answer until a friend pointed out that it couldnt be,because that would mean he was bad(because it put harry at risk and dumbledore got killed) BUT …..maybe snape is on NEITHER SIDE,maybe he is just quite simply out for himself?? revenge for himself or his own reasons and doesnt care who gets hurt,just talks to dumbledore and voldemort for information.but then the question is what would he be looking for?maybe the horcruxes?or MAYBE harrys parents have/had something really valuable that he wants, as does voldemort….
just a thought….
August 30th, 2006 at 4:07 pm
i think RAB is really the initials of a guy who went under cover as a death eater and dumbledoor put their initials there as saying haha we got a spy on you that wasnt snape.
August 30th, 2006 at 4:11 pm
Or fleur is realy evil and she is a spy for voldemort and she is only using bill for geting info
August 30th, 2006 at 4:13 pm
Hello?! Anyone there
August 30th, 2006 at 6:15 pm
fluffy i like that theory about fleur…i dont think so but it does make sense.she wasnt at all upset about his scars etc,its either real deep love or shes up to something..but i think its love.its a great idea though.maybe madame olymp maxime might use hagrid…
August 30th, 2006 at 6:16 pm
fluffy– thats what i think about regulas black– i sed it yesterday i am reposting it quick
what if regulus was a spy? wut if he was working for dumbly to find out if there were horcruxes or just to find out wut voldy was up to ? wut do u guys think?
also
what about the locket that was found in the 5th book? it was at sirius’ house and no one could open it? could it perhaps be slytherins? but then it would seem like RAB was regulus or sumone with acsess to the black house?
i know that there are a lot of questions but…
August 30th, 2006 at 6:34 pm
i think maybe voldemort will disguise himself as someone harry trusts and loves and it will come to a very very close final battle,
although i dont think it would be easy to trick harry in that way, say for example ginny. harry would notice if she was acting differently, i cant wait soooo much for book seven, is anyone else as excited as i am? i know livinit is and lynah but what about the rest of ye?
August 30th, 2006 at 6:39 pm
my name i think it makes a bit too much sense however clever it is. still i do think they all need to be aware that voldwmort probably has someone in the order that is deffinetely on his side,with access to grimmauld place,
August 30th, 2006 at 6:47 pm
i am just as excited as you are sarahius, and my name we have already discussed that we think that locket was slytherin’s but anyways RAB could be the initials of their name but what if htey have a really long name like Dumbledore. he has liek 7 initials in his name. so the person could have used any three
August 30th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Sarahius-
about harry’s parents i don’t really have a clue what they did because i believe the most time they had to live after becoming of age was maybe 15 years because they died when harry was only one right? so i mean they had made a ton of number within a short time. so they had to be pretty big
August 30th, 2006 at 7:14 pm
well guys a huge theory and maybe abit farfecthed waht if Lily knew how to save someone from death via potion
August 30th, 2006 at 8:50 pm
that’d be a way they got rich. and lily was great at potions says Slughorn
August 30th, 2006 at 10:05 pm
the only problem in a joking sense is i think Hermonie would of known
August 31st, 2006 at 5:52 am
sarahius-
Yeah i think every1 on this site can’t wait, i mean come on we are harry potter freaks !
and if you want new info on the books and films i suggest muggle net it is awsome!
August 31st, 2006 at 5:52 am
rite i thrt of sum things last nite!!
1. if being behedded is like a punishment..y was nearly hedless nik being behedded??
2.i read somewhere .. and JK rowling was who sed this .. that unhappy ppl become gohsts … y didbt sirius become a gohst and how is the fat fryer so cheerful .. doesnt make sence does it?
3. in the chamber or secret book it mentions ginny alot and then l8er we find out it was her who opened the chamber of secrets! is there any1 wh ois mentioned alot in the 6th book? .. woould that b R.A.B?
4. r.a.b mite not even b the initials it could b bar.. arb!! it mite b a spell , ginx, or the first few letters of one of the names!! it could even b a clue 2 where the next horcrux is hidden!!
write bak 4 once plz ppl!! its not nice 2 b ignored
August 31st, 2006 at 5:53 am
Pugman huh wat do you mean???
August 31st, 2006 at 6:00 am
bex – yeaa
August 31st, 2006 at 8:24 am
thats a good point whoever put that thing bout why dint dumbly just pore the potion into another goblet or lyk use the cup to pour it onto the floor i mean its pretty stupid (when they were trying to get the horcrux…thats what i was thinking to. to say dumbledore is a clever guy why the hell did he do somethingstupid lyk that??!!!
August 31st, 2006 at 8:34 am
Mastermind-
that’s the reason why i think it might be a set up. Dumbledore is much smarter than to not try to just dump the potion away. he could have at least tried but he just drank it. maybe it was a potion he needed to drink.
August 31st, 2006 at 8:37 am
and also u no that thing with the snape killing dumbledore well if the reason that he killed him was cus of the unbreable vow so it wud make sense or this is quite a wild theory ok…what if dumbledore new that rab had alredy taken the horcrux but r.a.b had then replaced the potion in the goblet with a potion that protects you from the killing curse (this means its not a ptoion that is bringing dumbleore bak from the dead it is a potion that bloks the killing curse) so dumbledore took the potion and so when snape killed dumbledore it was bloked btu dumbledore was just noked unconsious!! wunt that be cool
August 31st, 2006 at 8:53 am
also i have a question how did dumbledore about Lily’s sacrifice, when she stood between Harry and Voldemort? In fact, if he wasn’t at Godric’s Hollow, how did he know Lily was given a choice to live? And if he was at Godric’s Hollow, why did he never tell Harry?
August 31st, 2006 at 9:06 am
Hey!
First of all,those are some very good points about RAB Bexico.Also,your question about Nearly headless Nick…back then people were beheaded for really silly things,he probably stole a piece of fruit or something lol.
My name,I could be wrong but think about this..Obviously the potion had to be picked up with the goblet, then there was probably a spell on it to not let the potion leave the goblet unless ur lips were touching it.which would mean it had to be drank.
Pugman,Voldermort knows that Snape is a spy for Dumbledore,well actually he thinks hes a double agent so I think thats why he trusts him.then Dumbledore thinks the same so thats why we wont know whos side hes on till the next book.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:08 am
Oh and Pugman,that is such a cool theory about Lily possibly making some kind of potion to save you from death.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:08 am
also i have a question how did dumbledore about no Lily’s sacrifice, when she stood between Harry and Voldemort? In fact, if he wasn’t at Godric’s Hollow, how did he know Lily was given a choice to live? And if he was at Godric’s Hollow, why did he never tell Harry?
August 31st, 2006 at 9:12 am
wt do think livn it?
August 31st, 2006 at 9:12 am
harry potter girl dont know what your talking baout
August 31st, 2006 at 9:20 am
mastermind,I think maybe Snape was there when Harrys parants died and he passed on all the info to Dumbledore.
Ok,I have a great but ridiculus theory but maybe,just maybe Dumbledore had Snape under the imperious curse.I know its illegal but ‘desperate times call for desperate measures’. Remember Dumbledore was completely confident that Snape is on their side,it would make sense.what does everyone think?
August 31st, 2006 at 9:22 am
Also I think Dumbledore didnt tell Harry about alot of stuff cause he was trying to protect him.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:23 am
ok so livn it if snape did see well if he is not on dumbldedores side then he cud of just lied and that myt not of happened at all haha
and also when did dumbledore think that ‘desperate times call for desperate measures’ and put the imperious curse on him but really ti is a bit rediculous lol but nethnig can be possible
August 31st, 2006 at 9:28 am
You know what mastermind.. thats whats so interesting if and I mean if Snape is on Voldys side then he could have lied about James and Lily,that would be fantastic! on the other hand it would explain how Harry is protected by love,unless maybe his parants put a love protection spell on him. And your right it does seem stupid for Dumbledore to put a curse on Snape,its not his style.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:31 am
Desperate times call for desperate measures… I eh thought maybe I read it in the book. haha maybe Im going nuts,it was probably in a movie or something.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:35 am
Livn it-
Dumbledore put the protection charm on harry. i think he said it in book 5. he said the blood that runs through his veins is also the blood that ran through his mothers and his aunt Petunia is the only one blood related to harry now. and Dumbledore said he made the charm so that as long as harry can still call the Dursley’s house “home” the charm will keep on working. but it will lift when harry leaves them once he becomes of age.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:41 am
Im still a bit confused.Remember in the first book when Voldy couldnt touch Harry,well,Dumbly said he could’nt touch him because his mother died for him and left a protection on him,he was protected by love.
then in the forth book after voldy was resurected with Harrys blood he was able to touch him,so I think the protection that Harry gets when hes at the Dursleys is a differant thing,and that protection did come from Dumbledore.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:44 am
Im sorry if Im not making any sense,It sounds alot better when Im saying it to myself.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:46 am
no i understand what you mean
August 31st, 2006 at 9:51 am
Thanks I dont feel stupid now.I forgot to ask you Lynah, about what you think Hermione saw in the mirror.What did it say in the book cause I cant remember and dont have my books with me.I hate to admit it but what you said is very convincing.It is almost possible that Hermy likes Harry.
August 31st, 2006 at 9:55 am
Well JKR said in one of her interviews that hermione will see herself with someone besides ron in the mirror of erised and i used to think that she liked harry. i still think that a little but Sarahius reminded me that it didn’t have to be someone she was in love with. it could be anyone she cares for. like a daughter or son
August 31st, 2006 at 9:59 am
yeah that makes alot of sense.maybe she sees herself fighting Voldermort along side Harry and winning r something like that.But it would turn out to be so unexpected if she was in love with Harry.Cant wait to find out.
August 31st, 2006 at 10:03 am
me either
August 31st, 2006 at 12:08 pm
me either!
August 31st, 2006 at 12:10 pm
i know on the simsons it has a harry potter one and theres one with jk in it for like 2mins
August 31st, 2006 at 12:12 pm
I still think Harry has a thing for Ginny, and it’s Ron and Hermione thhat are going to get together, I wonder if Luna Lovegood is going to come in the romance stuff…
August 31st, 2006 at 12:31 pm
Do you guys think Harry, Ron & Hermione are going to become animagus in the next book… I wonder what the would turn into. Harry might be a stag, but what about Ron and Hermione?
August 31st, 2006 at 1:05 pm
harry isnt ii heard jk say he isnt
August 31st, 2006 at 5:53 pm
it’d be pretty cool if they did become animaguses
August 31st, 2006 at 5:59 pm
Hey guys I’m leaving this site.
Theres too many posts and we keep talking
about the same things and I’ve been here
for awhile so I’ve heard pretty much anything.
I guess I’ll post my super long theorys if I make
any more.
Its too much with school, and Sr. Short Course
Nationals [[for siwmming]] coming up.
I’ll see ya guys around!
If u wanna tlak:
email- siwmdiablo820@yahoo.com
AIM- Nikki Much
August 31st, 2006 at 9:37 pm
i agree with nikki. i’ll just wait until the book comes out
September 1st, 2006 at 7:17 am
I dont think Harry,Ron and Hermione will become animaguses.I know Jk said they wouldnt.But also its supposed to be really difficult to do and they,ve got to spend loads of time finding horcruxes and learning other advanced magic,i just dont see them fitting in the time.I agree that it would be really cool though.
And good luck at nationals the other chosen one,hope to hear from you again,you have some great theorys.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:22 am
is anyone there?
September 1st, 2006 at 9:28 am
i have a realy long strange theorie so please read it and then tell me if you think im crazy.
wat if in harrys bank account from his parents they left him somthing like a family heirloom. but then on the day that voldemort got proffesuer Quirrel to try to steal from gringgots he also broke into harrys bank account and stole it, everyne would have been too busy worying about the stone that they wouldnt have noticed. then voldemort could use the family heirloom as a horrcrux.
September 1st, 2006 at 9:57 am
ok so its not that long of a theorie, but it is for me
September 1st, 2006 at 10:00 am
i think that voldemort will kill everyone that harry ever cares about and then harrys gonna get so pissed that he kills voldemort and himself(by accident)cause he got so angery
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:41 am
I dunno Fluffy,it sounds a bit far fetched about the family heirloom,well not the heirloom but the idea that nobody would notice that Harrys vault got broken into.Besides the break in didnt happen until after Harry first went to his vault so he would have seen an heirloom if there was one there.
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:42 am
sorri i aint bn on in agges!! thanx tho livin it about sayin my points where good
:D and thanx 4 ansering the question about the beheding thing!!
soo umm helpo and wats evri 1 tlkin about??
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:48 am
Sarahius,was thinking about what you said a while ago about the school closing.I think maybe it will be closed for most of the book but it will definately re-open after the war is over.Maybe all the teachers will have to fight as well so there wont be anyone to run the school.
Guys,does anyone have any idea if the former headmasters have to be dead before they can get a portrait in the office?
September 2nd, 2006 at 6:59 am
Living it- yes thats how it magically appears, i also think that the school will stay norally open even if harry doesnt go, he might go back to talk2 dumbledore or go back for help [e.g teachers D.A]???? any ideas ?
September 2nd, 2006 at 8:05 am
Thanx Harry potter girl.Yeah I do think that Harry will get advice from Dumbledores portrait too.
September 2nd, 2006 at 8:30 am
do u think that the portrait of sirius’s great great grandfarther!! (ive 4goten his name) will know if the locket that couldnt b opened in the house of black was the horcrux and if R.A.B rili is regilus black?
September 2nd, 2006 at 8:36 am
and i was reading thw 1st few entrys!! not only the ppl who call veoldi the dark lord! in prof.trawlanis prediction she sed the dark lord will rise agen greater and more terrible than ever b4!! … and it remidned me what u read wen i was looking up 2 c if my point was rite … and aparently .. wen you are giving a presdiction your are actualy beng yourself liek sum ppl sed up there ^^^ a while ago that wen u r givin a rediction you r posesed .. you mite b rite!! but from wat ive read your not!
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:15 pm
hey guys.
i was thinking is it possible for a portrait to be a horcrux?
also does any one think that the mirror of erised might be one?
also i does anyone realise that MAYBE the mirror has been enchanted lately? since g o f or something….it could be.it would explain the fact that hermione sees herself with someone else in it as jk said she will.,something to confuse her maybe.and get confusion and loss of trust in the group etc,i dunno just a MAD idea.
also i take back my theory about lily and james having something or knowing something that voldemort wants,, so PUGMAN i think its not possible that they invented that even though i suggested that myself before.sorry but heres why… voldemort went looking for harry.harry not lily and james.he killed them simply because they were in the way,so im sure he had no interest whatsoever in them besides that, which leads me to ONE BIG QUESTION….why was harry the chosen one? i doubt he was just randomly selected to be who he is. why him? was he royalty? is he the grandson of the worlds greatest ever magician? or maybe…. he is in the future going to do something amazing that voldemort wants to stop?
what do ye think?
p.s livin it please dont listen to anyone telling you hermione and harry are gonna hook up you didnt think it before so dont now !!!sorry guys but i seriously dont think so
September 2nd, 2006 at 1:42 pm
i checked this out once again and i read your last comment. Sirius said that Lily and James said no plenty of times of joining the dark side. also harry was chosen because of his birthday, the prophecy said that the boy who is born at the end of this month (it was july then) will be the one who he-who-must-not-be-named will be made equal. and it did. harry got some of voldemorts powers making him equal to voldemort
September 2nd, 2006 at 4:26 pm
no the mirror or erised wudnt b a horcrux b-cos in the 1st book voldimort didnt know how 2 even work the mirror didnt even know wat it was used 4 origanaly!
September 3rd, 2006 at 5:16 am
What was the Chamber Of Secrets re-opened for?
Was it to bring Tom Riddle back … Or to try and kill off all the muggle borns?
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:58 am
i think he was trying to kill all the mudbloods at least. he couldn’t be trying to kill all the muggle borns b/c he is one himself.
September 3rd, 2006 at 10:51 am
Mudblood is a bad name for Muggleborns. so Mudbloods are Muggleborns
September 3rd, 2006 at 1:47 pm
does anyone have any ideas on who the new DADA teacher will be? i think that it will be a student that becomes a teacher, but not harry hermoine or ron b/c that is what jk rowling said in an interview i think. i might be totally crazy but i dont konw. if the school opens will McGonagall still teach transfiguration even though she is the new headmistress or whatever or will they have to find another person to teach that too? i thought jk rowling said there will be no knew characters?
September 3rd, 2006 at 4:44 pm
hey! what if the A in RAB stands for and? Then it could be two people.
September 3rd, 2006 at 5:46 pm
fufu not to be mean but ive said that and i siad i though the a stood for Albus so RB for Regulus Black
September 3rd, 2006 at 6:12 pm
pugman thats a good idea i forgot to say that to you before,
lynah the prophecy is about harry, i think it was made after he was born so the fact that he was born in a certain month doesnt matter if thats right, because its just a ‘clue’. im not sure when it was made though,
fufu wev already agreed that it could be two people,so you might be right, it could be ten people, it could be a club with those initials it could be ANYTHING OR ANYONE.
bubblez i think that the teachers in hogwarts will have to do the dada job themselves amongst themselves if the school doesnt close for a while that is,as everyone will be busy fighting voldemort,
everyone what do ye think about neville? do ye think hel play an important part in book 7?
September 3rd, 2006 at 6:24 pm
HELL YES AND HIS PARENTS WILL COME BACK(HOPEFULLY)
September 3rd, 2006 at 6:49 pm
you think theyll come back to sanity really.
is that possible, im not sure about that
September 3rd, 2006 at 8:57 pm
yeah i think that neville will definitely play a big part in the 7th book, i am not so sure about his parents, but i think that harrys parents will- i know it seems pretty obvious that they will, but yeah. i dont really know if it is possible for his parents to come back to sanity, i dont think so, but at this point anything can happen.
September 3rd, 2006 at 10:10 pm
but i think that harrys parents will yeah bubblez could you explain that abit more
September 4th, 2006 at 3:59 am
fufu,thats a good point,the A in RAB really could stand for and.
Bubblez,I think maybe the new DADA teacher will be someone unexpected Percy or maybe it will be someone from the order of the phoenix.
Sarahius,dont worry,I havn,t lost faith in Ron and Hermione getting together I just thought it would be interesting the other way but I didnt really believe it.
Also Sarahius I have another point to make for you.We all know that Voldermort thought Harry was the chosen one and thats why he tried to kill him but,you said that James and Lily got in the way and Voldermort was’nt planning to kill them.The prophecy says’,a child who is born to those who have thrice defied him,.Since when does Voldermort not want to kill someone who defies him?
September 4th, 2006 at 4:06 am
Yeah Sarahius I think Nevilles part will be pretty big in the last book.
Pugman, I dont know if its likely but it would be so cool if Nevilles parants became sane again,They were supposed to be brilliant aurors!
Bubblez,did you maen that you think Harrys parants will come back to life? I didnt quite understand what you meant.
September 4th, 2006 at 4:27 am
Some suggestions from the top of my head for RAB…
Some are silly but I,ll write them anyway!
1.Regalus Black.
2.Snape(false initials to throw evreyone off)
3.Riddle and Belatrix
4.Regalus and Belatrix
5.Remus and Black
6.Karkaroff(RAB could be a code)
7.Okay longshot but…maybe it stands for the first three horcruxes that have already been found.we know the RING was one and B could be for BOOK ie. diary,Im not sure what A could be.
September 4th, 2006 at 7:23 am
I think socks will play an important role in book seven. Why would dumbledore have mentchond it in book 1?
September 4th, 2006 at 7:35 am
Morfin, Socks? what?
September 4th, 2006 at 1:17 pm
Living it – i don’t think RAB could stand for 2 people because the note says I, I as in 1 person
September 4th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
i think that sumthing will happen at bill and fluers wedding– i mean, harry cant go anywhere normal without there being a commotion of sum sorts lol: the quidditch cup, the zoo, etc.
September 4th, 2006 at 7:00 pm
morfin?? socks ?? please comment on what you meant??
livin it those are good suggestions
everyone i just watched the first three movies again and its sooooo obvious ron and hermione are for each other. its him who she hugs when buckbeak is being killed, and its ron who always comes to her defence.ie when malfoy insults her etc…
anyone who doubts it please just stop.
id like to hear some peoples comments on posiible names for book 7.
September 4th, 2006 at 7:58 pm
harry potter girl it can be two people we dont know what the potion did maybe it kills you in time but still youll need someone to out the potion down you
September 5th, 2006 at 3:58 am
Harry Potter girl, Pugmans right it could easily stand for more than one person besides Rowling is always trying to throw us off.But its always possible that its just as straight forward as it seems,Its probably just Regalus Black with no strings attatched.
Sarahius I agree that the movies definately hint that Ron and Hermione fancy each other.I remember in an interview with the creater of the movies and JK,The interviewer asked what she thought of the movies and she said she loved them and that they always consult her first to make sure that their going down the right track.
September 5th, 2006 at 4:01 am
I also heard that Alan Rickman(snape) knows how the books are going to end so that he can play his part accordingly.So if we pay enough attention to his acting we might get an idea if hes good or bad.
September 5th, 2006 at 6:18 am
living it – thanx for that ^^^^^^^
by the way i reli reli do think its regulus she keeps on throwing him ramdomly in in the 5th and 6th actually in the 5th he is mentioned quite frequently!
September 5th, 2006 at 6:52 am
sarahius – um.. well i havent got a clue but it’s got to be something reli good like um.. Harry Potter and the final battle or something i dunno…
September 5th, 2006 at 7:31 am
Iv got some more ideas…really stupid ones but their still ideas..
Harry potter and the truth
Harry potter and the secret code
September 5th, 2006 at 8:19 am
Harry potter girl – isnt he only mentioned once in the 5th book ??
September 5th, 2006 at 9:58 am
what i was saying when i said that harrys parents will play a big role in book seven is not that they will come back to life or harry will die or anything, but i think that his connection to them and their past will play a big role. I have looked up a lot of rumors and almost every website says that we will learn more about lily and james past and how they became so wealthy, and harrys eyes will be important. I dont know, i could be completely wrong, but that is what i have read
September 5th, 2006 at 10:55 am
yah, tht’s wht I’ve read too
September 5th, 2006 at 2:53 pm
sorrii i havnt bn on here on aggeess!! my pxc broke so wats evri 1 tlkin about!!
September 5th, 2006 at 3:28 pm
if harrys eyes are so important it could just mean that he has to do a complicated speel using his eyes and not something super complicated
September 5th, 2006 at 3:32 pm
*spell
September 6th, 2006 at 8:10 am
Fluffy I agree,I think Harrys will be extremely important in the last book,he probably will use them to help perform a spell that will kill Voldermort.Remember if Harry has Lilys eyes then he may have inherited some sort of power from her.
September 6th, 2006 at 9:28 am
well to be honest livin it the next movie will come out a few days after the book. the movie i think comes out maybe july 15
September 6th, 2006 at 9:59 am
can someone remind me what it is that jk or whoever said about harrys eyes bein like lilys was important?
what exactly was said????
September 6th, 2006 at 10:13 am
Sarahius,Its hard for me to remember exactly what she said or what website it was on cause it was ages ago that I read it,(possibly MUGGLENET).But she said something like….We,ll find out whats so important that Harry has his mothers eyes and that theres more to it then we realise.So I think its going to be really cool.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:03 am
wow it sounds good thanks livinit.i just wanted the basics
September 6th, 2006 at 11:07 am
Thats ok.do you have any theories on that topic?
September 6th, 2006 at 11:08 am
does anyone else think maybe riddle had a brother or sister? i cant remember if it said anything about that…
September 6th, 2006 at 11:10 am
about the eyes? you mean.i think its something so obvious like harry can always be recognised even in diguise by his eyes,as they are distinctive and soo like hers.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:16 am
Thats interesting,like when he took the polyjuice potion before his eyes might have stayed the same and Malfoy just didnt notice.I dont think riddle had a sister because his mom was still pregnant with tom when she left his dad and that was her first then she died.
September 6th, 2006 at 11:19 am
well i know.i meant a half brother or sister.what happened to tom riddle senior?? before he died. did he re-marry? have more kids? like say a son named james?
September 6th, 2006 at 11:21 am
or even better a daughter named lily? with his eyes?
September 6th, 2006 at 11:22 am
o no wait.duh… cant be… 2 long ago.
September 6th, 2006 at 3:11 pm
well i know.i meant a half brother or sister.what happened to tom riddle senior?? before he died. did he re-marry? have more kids? like say a son named james?
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If you meant Harry’s dad, that couldn’t be possible because James Potter was a pure blood wizard. Also, it can’t be Lilly, otherwise Petunia would be daughter or Riddle Sr. and we know that just can’t be true.
September 6th, 2006 at 5:14 pm
if harry’s eyes are going to be so important, then why are they blue in the movies?
September 6th, 2006 at 5:19 pm
i think that grawp might have sumthing to do in the next book– maybe he can spy or sumthing
September 6th, 2006 at 5:27 pm
going with the tom riddle sr. theory, what if he did have another kid: like maybe lily’s mother?
i know this is my 3rd post but…
September 6th, 2006 at 6:37 pm
my name thats what i was saying.i mean it is possible i suppose.also my friend and i are always wondering that about why in the movies his eyes are blue.so its obviously nothing to do with colour.it must mean somethin else.
jordan as youl see after i suggested that i said i knew it couldnt be right….
September 6th, 2006 at 9:37 pm
my name in the movie there not going to do every little deatail in the book ive mentioned in the past it doesnt always show his scar(in the movie)
September 7th, 2006 at 1:33 am
Okay, J.K. has mentioned that Harry’s green eyes and their resemblence to Lilly’s will be inportant, and considering that she has made no further mention of them so far it would make sence that she explains their inportance in book 7.
The idea of lilly being a desendant of Riddle Sr. is interesting, but pretty unlikely. I mean, and I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that the Chamber of Secrets was opened 50years before Harry attended school. (please correct me if Im wrong) But, if this were the case then for harry to have been born when he was Riddle Sr. would have to be lilly’s father or grandfather. Now, follow me on this one, if Riddle was mad about being “bewitched” by Voldy’s mother (her name escapes me at the moment) then would he be pleased about lilly being a witch? Probably not, and I dont think that his children would be too kean on the idea either. But, Petunia said “oh, mother and father were so proud when lilly got her letter” or something to that effect…does that really sound like something a direct desendant of Riddle Sr. would say?
Did anyone think maybe the basalisk could have been a horcrux? I mean, I don’t think it is, but that would be interesting..
And, I know that this hasnt been talked about for a while but, Dobby is not evil.
September 7th, 2006 at 3:44 am
ihave a theori
Sirius is not dead, i think that thing he went through was a portal to somewhere but the ministry didnt know where. otherwise why would they have it in the department of mysteries why not just destroy it if it kills people. sorry if someones already mentioned this but i couldnt be bothered reading all of what you guys have been saying, but so far what iv read i think you all have some good points!!
tell me wat you think!!
September 7th, 2006 at 9:01 am
Sarahius,If it was at all possible that Tom riddle senior was the father on one of Harrys parants it definately wouldnt have been James cause he was a pure blood.Plus I still dont think Harry can be related to Voldy cause he wouldnt have needed any of harrys blood to be resurected because he wuold already have it in him.
September 7th, 2006 at 9:11 am
Letterowl,I think thats a good point,I was just about to point that out too,that lilys parants were extremely proud of her being a witch.
Sarahius,I agree with you,his eyes are blue in the movies and iv seen Daniel in other photos and sometimes he whears brown contact lenses.What my point is…if hes no stranger to wearing contacts he could easily wear them in the potter movies,so obviously the colour wont be that important.
September 7th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
In the mirrior of erised in SS Harry asked dumbledor what he saw when he looked in the mirror. I think that dumbledor was giving harry a clue of some sort. Why would Dumbledore lie to Harry?
plus isn’t harry always hidding stuff in or under a pair of socks.
September 7th, 2006 at 6:00 pm
morfin what are you talking about?
September 8th, 2006 at 4:49 am
Morfin,I think Im starting to get your point,I dont know if it means that the socks themselves will be important but they could symbolise something else.
September 8th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
on a completely and totally not related subject… what is the worst/most urgent problem in our world? (sry guys — its homework ) sry its not HP related ill try to cum up with sum theories if i get answers
September 9th, 2006 at 5:59 am
Hiaa i havent been on here 4 a while, mostly because evrybodys bak at schoool now i think ..
is the hospital wing a dormitory ??
September 9th, 2006 at 6:55 am
nope dnt think so
September 9th, 2006 at 8:46 am
could sumone answer my question lol i hate HW
what about grawp– couldnt he be used to help the order?
September 9th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
i think harry will go to azkaban to question people
September 10th, 2006 at 6:00 am
yeh but azcaban is only a tiny island set far out at sea!! will he seriouusly know where it is ?
September 10th, 2006 at 11:35 am
he could ask Mr.Weasley
September 10th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
yea but do the prisoners (like mr. weasely) actually know where the prison is? i know its out in the north sea but thats all
September 10th, 2006 at 7:04 pm
Well, I think you can visit people…I mean, barty crouch sr. and his wife visited crouch jr. there..
September 11th, 2006 at 5:47 pm
yea but how do they get there? they would have to fly like fudge did.
September 12th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
does anyone think that they will use grawp?
September 12th, 2006 at 6:55 pm
whats goin on eith this site? where is everyone?
September 12th, 2006 at 7:20 pm
they might use grawp..I mean, he is getting better..
and, maybe azkaban has an apperation center kinda like the ministry..
September 14th, 2006 at 2:46 am
Sirius is not dead, i think that thing he went through was a portal to somewhere but the ministry didnt know where. otherwise why would they have it in the department of mysteries why not just destroy it if it kills people. sorry if someones already mentioned this but i couldnt be bothered reading all of what you guys have been saying, but so far what iv read i think you all have some good points!!
plz tell me wat you think!!
and wif da azkaban thing wat about fireplaces? or is that stupid?
September 14th, 2006 at 2:51 am
i know i repeated myself but i wanted to know wat u guys think?
p.s i like the idea with the socks
September 14th, 2006 at 5:17 pm
yea nobody is on anymore… wut do u ppl who r still here think of the grawp idea?
jade-
that would be one way i dont know
September 15th, 2006 at 4:22 pm
heres a good statment with will have something to do with book 7 i think.
Pettigrew owes his life to you. You have sent Voldemort a deputy who is in your debt. . . . When one wizard saves another wizard’s life, it creates a certain bond between them . . . and I’m much mistaken if Voldemort wants his servant in the debt of Harry Potter. . . . This is magic at its deepest, its most impenetrable, Harry. But trust me . . . the time may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew’s life.”
September 15th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
i like the gawp idea but im not sure if the new minister of magic will use him, he seemed a bit stuck up and i dont think he liked dumbledore so that might be the reason they dont use him, but the order of the phoenix might?
yeah i reakon pettigrew will have to do something for harry, msybe he will save harry’s life without meaning to???
September 16th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
i think that he might be sent to kill harry or sumthin i think that he will not be able to kill harry when he tries to.
i agree with u… the ministry will not use grawp but the order could possibly use him
September 16th, 2006 at 10:32 pm
The ministry probably wont ever do anything right…I think that the order will find some use for grawp cuz, I mean, JKR doesn’t introduce many characters and actualy spend time on them if they dont end up doing anything..
September 18th, 2006 at 3:04 am
hay wat bout the D.A reakon they all might do something??
Hay hogwarts might ask harry to teach DADA!! i only just thought of that, though you guys might haave already talked bout it!!
September 18th, 2006 at 1:47 pm
Ok, quick new theory for you all.
New DADA Dark arts teacher = Tonks
Ok, that was quick…but there’s more!
Jo’ said that a student and a teacher would get married, but not to each other. She also said that a student would become a techer (and it wouldn’t be Hermione). People probably this “omg! nevil will becom da t33che 4 herb!!”
I have a different theory.
Tonks becomes the DADA techer.
Harry Kills Voldemort
Tonks gets married to Lupin and gives up her job (that’d be the teacher getting married)
Hermione marrys Harry (w00t!!) or Ron (:( ), so that’d be the student getting married.
Then Harry would be DADA.
OR!
Tonks keeps the job
She marries Lupin, and stays at Hogwarts, that’s the teacher married
Hermione marrys Harry or Ron, that’s the student married
OR!
Bill becomes the DADA teacher, then gets married to Phlegm (sniggers, Phlegm), so that’d be teacher getting married.
Hermione marrys Harry or Ron, that’s the student married.
Or, if you want Harry to go with Ginny on theory 1 or theory 2, sure, whatever.
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Jordan
September 18th, 2006 at 3:10 pm
think outside the box tonks marrys lupin who was a student and it fills both assuming tonks is a teacher
September 19th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
i was rereading harry potter and the socerers stone and i came across something vernon was telling hagrid in the light house that he isnt paying for some crackpot old fool to teach him magic tricks. how did vernon know dumbledore was old
September 19th, 2006 at 3:49 pm
i doubt that he knew. i think he was just being insulting and he was angry
Jordan:
interesting theory or shuld i say theories but i dont know the teacher could be Victor Krum…?
September 20th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
It couldn’t be Krum. Think about it for a minute.
Dumbledore said Voldemort was probably the best student to ever come to Hogwarts, but when he wanted the job for DADA Professor Dippet (?) said that he was too young, even though he was a great wizard. Krum was 18 in Goblet of Fire, which would make him 21 (ish) in the 7th book. Riddle could have come back at that age, because he was so great. But Krum wouldn’t have learnt as much as Riddle. He would need further education (probably). And, think about it, he’s probably an idiot. I know the Goblet of Fire chose him, but that doesn’t make a difference in my eyes. Krum probably took breaks from school for Quidditch, so he would have been a bit behind in school work.
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Jordan
Also, on my last message I put “I have a different theory”, but I wrote 3
. I only planned to write one, but I had some ideas whizzing through my mind and forgot about that sentence lol.
September 20th, 2006 at 6:03 pm
but dumbly sed that he advised riddle against the appointment of riddle. dippet apparently asked dumblys advice and followed it… i think that was only an excuse an also Riddle was doing “research” (aka murdering and protecting horcruxes) during the next years… but i dont know Will they still have national quiddich teams with voldy returning
Maybe krum will jion the Order (sry guys … this week i feel like talking about the krum theorins
)lol
September 20th, 2006 at 9:23 pm
Krum might be helpful to the order, but on the other hand he might join voldemort. I mean, look at Karkoff(sorry, I don’t feel like looking up the spelling).
And, I don’t see why they would stop quiddich.
September 21st, 2006 at 2:04 am
wat if harry beats ha crap out of voldi, comes a teacher and marrys ginny or hermione?
thats sorta weird but anyways! i dunno bout Krum, he seemed a bit dodgy to me, like letteowl said he might join voldemort, but i dunno, i mean hermione was talkin to him?
hay wat does every1 think bout the whole Lily thing thats going on? shes supposed to have some big mystery behind her!!!
September 21st, 2006 at 4:32 pm
Yeah, hermione was friends with krum, but lilly and james were friends with peter and we all know how that turned out..
September 21st, 2006 at 5:38 pm
Contridiction to my other posts:
coudl Krum even jion the order? because its a secret organization an he’s so well known, ppl like Rita Skeeter would be poking around trying to find out wut he was doing…
September 21st, 2006 at 7:23 pm
They wouldnt be able to find out cuz its unplottable or whatever…
Could any one new go to 12 grimauld place? I mean, J.K.R said that when a secret keeper dies their secret dies with them…so, since dumbledore was the order’s secret keeper, and he cant very well go around telling people things…
September 21st, 2006 at 9:00 pm
i dunno i mean harry owns the place so he should be able to go in shoudnt he? but will the order still uuse grimauld place since the death eaters wouldve foound out off snape!! maybe the charm dies when the secret keeper dies??
September 22nd, 2006 at 12:04 pm
hey boogers =]
im back =]]]
is ne1 still here form when i was here? lets hope. im super bored. so what have we beent talking about? same old stuff? i saw somethign about krum joining the order. whats the backup stuff on that one?
wtfff? ya’ll need to read the books again they cant use grm place as headquaters bc even tho the will says it goes to harry the house automatically gets passed down to the closest living black and thats bellatrix lesstrange and they dont wanna risk it so they needa new placeee.
September 22nd, 2006 at 8:06 pm
Hey I was just reading some posts [[and rereading them from when I was here!]]. Hhaha yeah livin it I’m 13. Born August 20 ‘93 and I’m in 8th grade.
I’m so mad. I can’t find book 6 and book 5, 3 and 3 [[hardback]] are all falling apart bc ive read them so much so im missing like half the story. i may just have to go to the library but im working on my latest new huge giantic theory. but its not rly going newhere ha. so it might take awhile.
Hhaha I’m gonna try somethign and see if it works. I will read 4 pages of each book a day [[haha I doubt I can resist myself form going on even though I almost knwo every sentence by heart]]. So then the wait for book 7 won’t seem as long =]
jordan- if ur still here and u have a email/sn itd be rly cool to talk. mines Nikki Much and email- swimdiablo820@yahoo.com
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:36 pm
No, cuz remember in book 6 dumbledore brought kreacher over to see if his ownership passed to harry, and it did. Dumbledore said that if kreacher went to harr then the house did to. so there
September 22nd, 2006 at 9:42 pm
wtf? uhm okay w.e but they dont use it nemore bc the house automatically goes down to the next black by its own magic. kreacher was ordered to by his previous master [[sirius]] in his will. read the book again hun. =]
September 23rd, 2006 at 3:08 am
okie:
Pgs. 50-53 of HBP
Dumbledore-”Well, Black family tradition decreed that the house was handed down the direct line, to the last male with the name ‘Black.’…While he makes it perfectly plain that he wants you to have the house, it is nevertheless possible that some spell or enchantment has been set upon the place to ensure that it cannot be owned by anyone other than a pureblood”
he then goes on to say that, if tthat were the case, it would go to Bellatrix Lestrange.
HArry says keep the house, dumbledore says we need to find out if its really yours, Harry asks how..
Dumbledore-”Fortunatly, there is a simple test”..”You see, if you have indeed inherited the house, you have also inherited-” *Kreacher appears*
Kreacher-”wont, wont, wont”
Harry-”Kreacher, shut up!”
*Kreacher shuts up*
Dumbledore-”Well, that simplifies matters…It seems that Sirius knew what he was doing. You are the rightfl owner of number twelve, Grimmauld Place and of Kreacher.”
So, since I have obviously read the book enough times, would you like to borrow it? ^.^
September 23rd, 2006 at 4:21 am
Hey guyz, I wasn’t here for long, n well I dunno if u guys know bout it but…… this site has written it’s own version of hp7….. it’s not THT good, as JK would have written it, but it’s just for fun, n to pass the time……. by the way Today is my birthday!!!!!
http://www.harrypotterfanfiction.com/viewstory.php?psid=139099
September 23rd, 2006 at 5:27 am
Happy bday Niki and fanx xx
September 23rd, 2006 at 5:29 am
Hey guys i just though i’d let u know: I don’t know if u no this al redi, but Voldi know about the charm Dumbledore put on Harry, the one were when he goes bac to the Dursleys he’s safe !!!! thought i d let u know, tell me what u think !
September 23rd, 2006 at 10:31 am
LetteOwl–
Yes I know that. I think we’re saying the same thing. What I was trying t osay is that yes Harry is the rightful owner but Bellatrix may think the house should automatically go to her. So if she’ll take it and the Order still uses it it could be a castrophe. So I think we’re saying the same things. Well at least the first part.
And yes believe I’ve read that book a lot =]
I forget have I told you guys my Triwizard Clue theory?
September 23rd, 2006 at 10:44 pm
I don’t belive you have..
And, I think I get what your saying now, but I still dont think she could get the house. I mean, it was made unplotable and dumbledore was made the secret keeper, so I don’t think she can just waltz up and take the house back.
September 24th, 2006 at 12:16 pm
The Other Chosen One:
YES you have told us … its about halfway up this page… Nikki – thats a cool website, the writer of that story is pretty good
Does Belatrix even know about the house? theres nothing in the book that really says if she does or doesnt
nobody new can enter the order know, can they? cause dumbly was sercret keeper and he’s dead so no one who wasnt told by dumbly will be able to get in there?
i know i have a lot of questions but…
September 24th, 2006 at 12:17 pm
o and its good to have u back the other chosen one
September 24th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Thanks My Name!
LetteOwl–
Yeah good point but as for me I’m not assuming anythign anymore. But I don’t think it will play a part if any in book 7.
My Name–
Well JKR said that no new characters will be introduced but perhaps a character we knwo of will get on. I’m not so sure. When secret keeper dies I odnt think we know who the new one will be if there would be.
I htink if ne new does join the Order it would be a Weasley[[s]] Harry Hermy…you know.
LetteOwl-
Do you have email/sn? Itd be cool to talk.
I think all of our confusing questions and thigns that we want to know that may not even play a big part in book 7 will [[hopefully]] be answered. I jsut can’t believe its the last one…I remember just waitng to book 4 [[my fav one!]] to come out and being liek Its gonna take forever for book7. And here we are, waintign for next summer…
I htink I’m gonna try out my lil experiment tonight lol.
September 24th, 2006 at 4:58 pm
QUESTION: is snape free from the unbreakable vow because he killed dumbly? the vow didnt say how long he was supposed to protect and help draco… well it sed as he attempts to complete the task that voldy gave him but voldy culd give him another task… idk ill reread the exact wording tonight
September 24th, 2006 at 5:03 pm
MyName–
I’m almost positive the Vow said that he will help Draco in any way possible. And he helped [[or really DID]] the deed that Draco was sent out to do. So I’m almost positive that means that Vow has been lifted. But never assume for it makes an arse outta you and me…
September 24th, 2006 at 8:53 pm
yeah, my yahoo and aim are both JuggaletteOwl
September 24th, 2006 at 9:52 pm
other chosen one there is absolutely no1 from the original on this site now.
September 24th, 2006 at 9:54 pm
where’s pugman, fergie, nini, and sarahius and jordan
September 24th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
hey guys i wonder is nick flamel is dead yet it hasnt been said hes dead yet so it would beintresting if he gave harry or dumbleo dre the philsophers stone
September 24th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
still here lynah just listening not much to say i ahve school now which is hell but easy so far there all of my teahcers are giving me crap
September 25th, 2006 at 10:51 am
Pugman, Jordan is here
.
Anyway, if a secret keeper dies the secret dies with them. (I read Jo’s site) So that means that the Order cannot ever be found by anyone that doesn’t know about it? Does that mean it dissapears and never comes back? Or does that mean that the secret is there for everyone to see?
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Jordan
Good to have you back, The Other Chosen One! I’ve added you on MSN Messenger
September 25th, 2006 at 10:56 pm
I think it means that only the people who know about it now can ever know about it.
September 26th, 2006 at 10:55 am
That’s what I thought, but wanted to double check. Unless there is some way to make Dumbledore talk (if he really is dead)? Can Inferni talk? Can they speak about their past selfs unwillingly? Who knows?
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Jordan
September 26th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
you can only make an inferi of a person you killed an if snape’s good then he wont. but couldn’t they talk to dumbly’s portrait?
September 26th, 2006 at 7:38 pm
Thanks Jordan!
I’m pretty srue now only the ppl in the order know about it and those r the only people who CAN know about it.
MyName–
I didn’t knwo you could only make an Inferi with the person you killed. Yeah I think there gonna tlak to him thru the pic.
I think with Inferi, their just there…doign their job of what there “masters” are telling them to do.
Lynah–
Yeahh those kids were great =[
Pugman–
Yeah it said Flamel died and the Stone was destroyed.
September 26th, 2006 at 7:50 pm
did it say he died in a certain book or he will die within time
September 26th, 2006 at 9:57 pm
it never said that he did die but im pretty sure he wont have anything more to do with the series
what i really want to know is can harry go and talk to sirious? if he can then why hasnt he tried yet?
also dumbledores portrait is on the headmistres’s wall right so harry can still go and talk with him considering that he goes back to hogwarts (which i think he will)
September 26th, 2006 at 10:03 pm
i think he wouldnt be special also but you never know
September 26th, 2006 at 10:05 pm
One more thing i was reading poa the other night and hermione sais that there are enchantments stopping people from entering hogwarts by broomstick but in hbp harry and dumbledore do that on the way back from getting the horcrux is there a reason 4 that or did jkr just stuff up
ps. i think 4 some reason hagrid will be killed by a gang of voldemorts giants
September 26th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
Ok maybe i got 1 more thing to say is trelawny a seer or not i mean in poa she predicted binkys death and nevil breaking that mug but after that she couldnt predict anything exept wen she predicted voldemorts return and the prophesy about harry and voldemort.
September 26th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
oh and b4 i go do any of u guys have msn or anything id love to talk to u like that
September 27th, 2006 at 1:54 am
hehe, you make me laugh uz you remind me of me…
But, I think that flammel is dead cuz Dumbledore said tha the stone was destroied, and being 600and something, I dont think he could live long on his own..
If Im not mistaken, something was said about dumbledore taking down wards when he and harry were riding into the school..I’ll go back and check that tonight..
The way I always saw it, Trelawny is a seer, but not a very good one. I mean, cuz her grandmother was a great seer…Like, and sorry but this is the best I could come up with..If you have a grandmother who is absolutly covered in freckles, and then, other then her, no one in your family has freckles, there is a chance that you will end up with a few, but not near as many as your grandmother. Does that make sence? So, Her grandmother was a great seer, and could see the future at will, and Trelawny inherited her seeing abilities, but she cant focuse them quite as well, and, despite how she might try, the only time shes correct in her perdictions is when when they kinda pop out without her knowing. Yeah, if that doesnt drive you nuts…
Oh, and just to say, JKR said that it “wouldnt be harry potter without hogwarts” So, I bet that we’ll see at least a little of hogwarts in the next book.
I don’t know if you guys talked about it at all yet, but JKR said that someone that was before thought to be a muggle would start showing magical capibilities, and it wouldnt be Petunia…any thought on who it might be and why?
September 27th, 2006 at 3:37 am
i havnt even heard that yet maybe nothings been said to australia but as to who it’ll be i really hope its dudley he’s such a dud and if lily evans had magical ability y cant he right (i know a terible explanation) but i really want it to be him it would be a good chance for jkr to add in some humour and to torcher harry a little more b4 leaving the dursleys
do u guys think dumbledore will give harry fawks the phoenix i hope he gets him it would be a good present to harry seeing as they had been really good friends
September 27th, 2006 at 10:18 am
magical me
One more thing i was reading poa the other night and hermione sais that there are enchantments stopping people from entering hogwarts by broomstick but in hbp harry and dumbledore do that on the way back from getting the horcrux is there a reason 4 that or did jkr just stuff up
ps. i think 4 some reason hagrid will be killed by a gang of voldemorts giants
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Yeah, I thought about that but I suppose that Dumbledore used a non verbal spell to lift the enchantments.
And LetterOwl, the quote about Jo’ saying “It isn’t Harry Potter without Hogwarts”, I’ve seen that quote aswell and have mentioned it somewhere near the top. Harry will definitly go back to Hogwarts at one point for something or other.
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Jordan
September 27th, 2006 at 2:33 pm
hey guys i just had an idea (its just an idea-) WHAT ISF Luna lovegood is a seer??? That could her dreamy ness!! Also the is alot like preoff Trawlny (Misty i mean!) They are a both a bit strange. What do you lot think xx???
September 27th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
when is the next wombat, if there is 1?
September 27th, 2006 at 3:45 pm
btw my email is fntsyguru007@yahoo.com, and i am on AIM a lot, u can contact me at jukemaster07 on AIM.
September 27th, 2006 at 5:23 pm
Jordan-
Lol, I must admit, I’ve yet to read the whole page from the top.So, some of the things I say may be repests of others words, but I assure to its not on purpose.
September 27th, 2006 at 6:49 pm
Pugman–
Yes. Ron said “If the stones destroyed then-”
hermy– “yes flamel will die soon”
and thta was it.
Magical Me–
Yes and if you reread book 7 at that scence Harry sees Dumbly whispering spells and thats what lets them into Hogwarts. Also, about Trelawny…I’m pretty sure those were very educated guesses…I mean I’m sure thw teachers talk about how clumsy Neville is and so she just figured that btu as for the rabbit I have noooo idea.
LetteOwl–
Yeha know what you mean by freckles, it was actually a pretty good explanation.
Yeah Harry will def go back to Hogwarts, I mean how couldn’t he? Its his home its where he belongs. But I won’t be surprised if he leaves Hogwarts for dayss/weeks [[MONTHS?!]] at a time for Horcruz business.
I think the person might be Dudley. I mean he has got some magical blood in him seeing as his grandparents are Lily’s parents and she has their blood which turned out for her to be magical. Does that make sense?
I really can’t think of anyone else is could resonably be.
September 27th, 2006 at 8:11 pm
guys thats what jk wants us to think its dudley i think it will be vernon it would be a surprise to everyone and she can be tricky
September 27th, 2006 at 8:27 pm
actuall i think i’ve changed my guess with pugman thats a great idea for jkr no one will expect vernon u know him being the perfect muggle it’l really shake up the story b4 harry leaves privet drive but i dont know do u guys think that could work into the story in any way? i mean between harry and voldemort
September 28th, 2006 at 1:52 am
Gees that was quick, i didnt come check for a few days n now theres like a thousand new entiries, i really gotta get online more often! say that Vernan thing is pretty interestin, but has any1 thought of the idea that voldy might send a few ppl ova 2 privet drive and try to kill harry but end up killing the dursleys?
say how old r u guys? im 14! who else lives in aussi? n do any of u have msn? sorry i no im asking alot but i do that sumtimes!!
hay wat if they get a new secret keeper for Grimuld place? (soz bout the spellin im really bad!) n wat bout the weddin?
September 28th, 2006 at 1:54 am
P.S my msn is jadyib92@hotmail.com
September 28th, 2006 at 2:36 am
well, the three said that they are going to the wedding, so I assume that the wedding is still on. Other then dudley and vernon there really arent to many people that it could be..
But, here is what I think:
When dumbledore sent the howler to petunia it said “remember the last” Now, if he had been talking about the letter that was left with harry then vernon would have understood what the howler ment too, so there must have been other letters between petunia and dumbledore. Also, Im just saying letter to make more sence, but he didnt say “remember my last letter,” so, what if they had had some sort of meetings?
Now, there is only so long that people can talk about harry, and I don’t think petunia would be interested in talking about him for longer then he had to. So, what else could they have been talking about?
I personaly think that they were talking about dudley. I mean, if dudley had been a wizard then harry wouldnt have grown up quite so isolated.
And, under normal circumstances, wouldnt anyone with magical qualities have been admited to hogwarts? When Vernon would have been the age to go to hogwarts there would have been nothing to stop him.
yeah, those are my unorgonized theories..
Oh, and I was wondering if anyone else was as curious as I am as to what dudley was seeing when the dementor came to make him clam up like that..and, I wonder if that could play part in the next book somehow..
jade-
Im almost 19 and live in georgia, usa.
September 28th, 2006 at 2:48 am
I never evan thought about what he saw but hes had a really spoiled life hes only terrible experiences (That we know of) are harry pretending to curse him and when he was trapped in the boa constrictor cage
as for who has the new magical abilities i have no idea it can really only be one of the dursleys right they’re the only main charactor in the series but why are people so sre its not petunia?
September 28th, 2006 at 2:49 am
i am jake i’m 14 from victoria australia
September 28th, 2006 at 2:58 am
letteowl i like ur idea, and now tht u mention it i wanna know wat dudly saw too! hay wat bout aunt marge!!! ??? i 4got bout her!!
hay thanx for answerin!!
hay letteowl, i know this has nothing to do wif hp but wats it like in usa? does it snow alot? do u have any wolves near u???
September 28th, 2006 at 3:02 am
where do u live jade?
September 28th, 2006 at 3:30 am
hey i was thinking on a change of subject does anyone think arthur weasley has got a chance of becoming minister for magic i know ron always jokes about it but do u think it could happen?
September 28th, 2006 at 3:46 am
nsw n thats a kool idea!!
September 28th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
Magical me, in a word; no. He has absoloutly no chance, in my opinion lol. Also, I don’t think anyone with the magical qualitys is related to Harry in any way. The person with magical qualitys late in life might not even be that important. Mabye it could be Filch, yet the fact that he learns magic is actually un important and she is just trying to throw us off the main plot? I don’t know…
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September 28th, 2006 at 1:10 pm
hey guys i just had an idea (its just an idea-) WHAT ISF Luna lovegood is a seer??? That could her dreamy ness!! Also the is alot like preoff Trawlny (Misty i mean!) They are a both a bit strange. What do you lot think xx??
September 28th, 2006 at 5:30 pm
Im sure its not petunia cuz Rowling said that its not. And, she also said that it wasn’t going to be one of the squibs so that counts out filch and the cat lady whos name I’ve currently forgotten. Oh, and she ALSO said that aurther wasnt going to become minister. Poor mr. weasley.
And, Jade-
In some parts of the USA like washington and georgia, its beautiful. But, in most of california and texas its really dry. A few years back we had really bad wild fires in california and it burnt down most of the green parts, so that really sucked. Everythings over priced, and the air is really poluted. There isnt much wild life any more because everything is getting so built up and we are destroying all the animals homes. Its really very sad. If you ever come over here, tho, don’t visit california. Its really no fun. Go to washington state or florida or new york. Yeah, thats my rant on the evilness of america. Oh, and bush sucks. Whats it like over there?
Okay, back to harry potter..
September 28th, 2006 at 5:44 pm
i leave for like one day and there are a hundred new posts…
wut if the magical person is arabella fig? that would be kinda cool
thats one idea HPGirl that might even be posssible…
kool idea about Hagrid getting beat up by a bunch of giants, if that happens grawp would try to come in and save him… i think
what do u guy sthink about Percy? will he rejion the weasley clan?
PS i live in PA,USA and im 13
September 28th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
o nvm mwith my arrabella fig idea… i guess maybe dudley or aunt marge would be the most likely candidates…
September 28th, 2006 at 5:50 pm
o and bush doesnot suck… sry letteowl but my opinion is that u are wrong
sry guys just felt like saying that back to harry potter! i hope
September 28th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
Okay so many new posts so I only read like 5…
LetteOwl–
Yes I am VERY curious as to what he saw. JKR said you will find out what he saw in book 7.
“Crucial” says JKR about why Dumbly gave Harry James cloak…
Hmmm, maybe it will help unlock a part of Harry’s past?
Okay guys Harry Potter site not I hate Bush site…
MyName–
I have family in PA. I’m in Md, 13, F. Do you live in/near BeaverFalss
September 28th, 2006 at 10:30 pm
I Think that percy will rejoin the weasleys but not until something really big idk what it might even be after what happened to charlie which brings me 2 a new subject wat do u guys think charlie will be like after he was attacked by fenrier i know lupin said he wouldnt be a true werewolf but I think means he will:
A transform and keep his mind
B not transform but have the mind of a werewolf or
c turn into a full werewolf but not all the time
but thats just wat i think
September 29th, 2006 at 5:07 am
I hope nothing to bad, cuz I like him. Lol, kinda biased, I know. But, the way Fleur acted after what happened to him, I kinda had a change of heart in my opinion of her.
It wouldnt surprise me to much if percy dies, tho I hope for the sake of his mother and the rest of his family, if he does die I hope he comes to peace with them first.
My Name, your entitled to your opinion
Other Chosen One, sorry, I just had to throw that in with my rant!
I think I may be the oldest one on here…:-S
September 29th, 2006 at 6:56 am
gees u guys write fast! um ok…
letteowl-
that sux wif da fires, it alrite ova here, i mean theres pretty much wildlife evrywhere, lyk u go 2 ql an ur lykly 2 c a kangaroo sumwhere things lik that. its alrite, getting really dry though, we hav a level 4 wata restriction cause of droughts!!
nyways back 2 hp-soz-i hope lupin doesnt die, i really lik him, but i dun lik the guy who plays him in da movies… hay wat do u guys think of da new dumbledore? does any1 else but me think hes an idiot?? sory but i really dun like him…i agree wif letteowl, if percy dies i hope hes made up wif his family-even though i still think hes a jerk-!!!
say has any1 read the snape story on y hes so mean?? its really good though i dun think thats y its still a good story!!
http://harrypotterrealm.com/webmistress/shattereda.html
yeah uh so…did any1 here the theory bout how the twins were goin to accidently make a potion that reverses the killing curse-avarda kavarda- soz if i spelt it wrong but my rooms to far away to check spelling!!!lol
September 29th, 2006 at 5:55 pm
maybe percy will die trying to help one of his brothers or sumthing… i agree with u jade– he is a jerk and the new dumbly in the movies is terrible… well i dont like him i liked the dead guy better lol
the other chosen one:
i live like over 5 hours away from beaver falls…
September 29th, 2006 at 9:02 pm
MyName–
Ha oh, just thought I’d ask.
Okay so uhm, you guys may wanna take the new WOMBAT tests! I already took mine go to mugglenet to figure out what to do.
Yeah I love Richard Harris…I figured this out when I read both movie credits but did you know that the Aunt on Spiderman was his wife? It could be sister but i doubt it. They both have the same last name. Yeah R. H. also did a great job on Gladiator.
You know how JK has influence over the movies? Well, the dumbly they have now is most certainly not as “gentle” as the old one. Don’t you think that if he needed to be JK would hav told the director/Michael Gambon [[new Dumbly]]. So I think the reason why hes not unlike the old one is important. JK said we will find out more about DUmbly and maybe hes not the old caring man that we know and is cracked out to be. But I lvoe Dumbly and he is nive and caring but maybe theres somethign more to it…you know what I mean?
I’d be pretty surprised if I was right…I’m not even sure if I beleive it all…but something to think about.
A great admirier’s of Harry’s will die JK said….hmmm…
September 29th, 2006 at 10:40 pm
The dead guy! Oh, thats so mean.
I think I like the new dumbledore, he seems to be more ecentric, but I didnt like how he shook harry after drwaing his name from the goblet of fire..I don’t think dumbledore would lose himself like that. I like the guy who plays lupin, also. He was also amazing in Kingdom of Heaven.
I don’t think that the twins will creat an antidote to death because throughout the harry potter series JKR has really been emphecizing(I spelt that wrong) the idea that death is final.
September 30th, 2006 at 3:34 am
GUYS PLZ ANSWER ME — THIS IS THE 3RD TIME IVE DONE IT —
hey guys i just had an idea (its just an idea-) WHAT ISF Luna lovegood is a seer??? That could her dreamy ness!! Also the is alot like preoff Trawlny (Misty i mean!) They are a both a bit strange. What do you lot think xx??
September 30th, 2006 at 3:57 am
does anyone know if jkr said anything about wormtail repaying harry for saving his life in poa because i havnt seen or read any interviews in about 3 months oh and is it posible for wormtail to kill lupin (werewolf lupin) with his silver arm
oh and hp girl i dont think she is a seer but i dont really know im just guessing but i just think shes delusional besides she hasnt really predicted anything has she?
September 30th, 2006 at 4:00 am
Magical me -
J.K has alredi answered that … shes said that only silver bullets can kill a werewolf. But i think the two characters that will die are going to be people reli close to him ( i think lupin cause now sirius, father and dumbledore, Lupin is the closest thing to a father he ha got left so i think he might die!)
September 30th, 2006 at 9:31 am
can were wolves be killed by the avada kadavra curse?
September 30th, 2006 at 9:32 am
or ONLY silver bullets?
September 30th, 2006 at 10:17 am
my name- i dunno, but if they aren’t transformed yeah mabey!
September 30th, 2006 at 4:29 pm
Yes I most def think Wormtail will play a role in saving Harry’s life…I don’ think shes said much about it but if thats one of the climax’s of the story, why would she?
I think Avada Kedavra can kill anything–with one exception. House elves seem to come up a lto in the books, always with there own extraodinary minds and powers. It has already been proven that they can be stronger than wizards with their magic and I think there is a possibility they can block Avada Kedavra. Just an educated guess though.
HP Girl–
It is def a thought but I don’t think shes a Seer, I think they “dreaminess” is just her being herself.
September 30th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
interesting idea about the house elves…
October 1st, 2006 at 8:42 am
the house elf thing could also apply to the thing about harrys eyes- elfish eyes its been said- maybe that played a factor in harry surviving- if so then dumbledore saying lily gave harry the protection could be through the elfish connection- just a guess though
October 1st, 2006 at 11:28 am
yes JK has sed that his eyes will play an important part to the 7th book
October 1st, 2006 at 11:54 am
I think the whoel eye thing means he can see whether ppl are “good/bad” without even meeting thme. I mean when Harry first saw Ron he wanted to be friends but they hadn’t really met…then when he saw Draco at Hogwarts he [[Draco]] said “I can help you with choosing the right friends” or somethign liek that and he said no…its liek Harry could jsut tell.
And when in book 5 Lily seems to do the same thing. When Snape is being taunted by Jmaes/Sirius she sticks up for him, liek she can see the good. This part ctually depends on whether u think Snape is good/bad but I htink hes good.
And in book 3 Lupin said somethign particular. He said Lily always had a gift in seeing the real beauty in people.
ANDDD…Harry is always known for looking exactly liek James but with Lily’s eyes…and ppl ALWAYS tell him that. And the truth is it seems liek Harry acts like Lily more than James a lot through otu the books [[and I'm not saying James was a bad kid, cuz I think hes hilarious]] particulary at the part where Harry is so mad at his dad after he sees the pensieve. And maybe this is somethign JK always says [[how he loks liek his father with lily's eyes]] to make us totally forget that somethign is actually important being said here…it shouldn’t be “POh Harry ur just like James but with Lily’s eyes”… it shoudl be “Oh Harry u act just like Lily wiht her eyes but oh yeah you got James’ looks”
October 1st, 2006 at 12:15 pm
ok the other chosen one so what are you getting at?
October 1st, 2006 at 12:27 pm
yea the other chosen one- but the flaw in your theory is harry hated snape straight away= so how can they see good in people when lily saw the oppisate
October 1st, 2006 at 12:29 pm
Every one if your interseted in movie 5 (HP) go on muggle net omg its brill ive seen Zarchrias Smith, Tonks and Umbridge and the rest its brill have a look and it hads some good rumours about Hp 7?
October 1st, 2006 at 4:26 pm
one thing i was thinking about- its not crucial to the plot but in the first DADA class in the sixth book when hermione was talking about the love potion, the she fall silent and blush becuase she was embarrased she knew everything or was she about to say something she didnt want the others to know
October 1st, 2006 at 5:09 pm
did u guys ever notice the scenery in the HP movies? it seems to change in every movie… just thought that i’d bring that up, and in the movie harry’s eyes are blue…
October 1st, 2006 at 9:19 pm
I think the scenery changes because the directors change..I dont think Luna is a seer, but I think she will help out some. Im pretty sure that JKR said something about wormtail helping save Harry’s life, and she also said that Lupin would not die because of Wormtail’s hand. Oh, and I don’t think that Lupin will die.
October 2nd, 2006 at 6:17 pm
maybe magonagol will die or slughorn
October 2nd, 2006 at 6:38 pm
Fergie–
Haha yeah that was the flaw I was hoping noe one would notice…Your good =] I don’t have an excuse for that one.
And yes, when Hermione was saying the love potion, you smell thigns you admire/like and she said “Yeah and you smell things you liek and I can smell fresh parchemnt and newly cut grass and…” Thats when she fell slient. It was bc she was embarassed.
Yeah JK siad Wormtails hand WILL NOT kill Lupin. But that doesn’t mean he can’t die.
I also noticed in the movies his eyes were blue. And in the first few movies his eyes switch from green to blue back to green then to blue again. Daniel’s eyes are blue and sometimes he didn’t wear his color contacts [[I want color contacts to make my eyes blue but nooo I get boring contacts with ugly brown eyes lol not HP realated...]] I was kinda upset when I figured it out cuz I mena c’mon its a part of Harry to have green eyes…its almost as bad as putting his scar to the side of his head and NOT
October 2nd, 2006 at 6:39 pm
[[ctd form last messgae it got cut off]]
and NOT in the middle…c’mon WHAT GIVES?! This is why I hate books turned into movies the change WAY too much…and I don’t thin kI found one thign in the 4th book that they DIDN’T change…okay so I exagerrated that a bit.
October 3rd, 2006 at 10:24 am
my granny has just (possibly) ruined the 7th book ending= she said that when jk was on a plane and she took the 7th book sheets on with her- someone looked at them and saw that harry dies- i’m praying the person just made that up
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:56 am
Ok, I personally don’t think that Jo’ would take book 7 sheets on a plane, she’d attract enough attention on her own, so alot of people would have been curious about what she was reading/writing.
If this person is telling the truth, it’s most likely that it was just fan mail. “(covered up bit) I hate to say it but I think (not covered up bit) Harry will die.”
Jo’ doesn’t even keep book 7 sheets in her own home (it says on her website), so I doubt that she’d risk it on a plane.
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Jordan
I’ve just checked her site. On the 13th of September she went to New York (NOTE : That’s on a plane)
October 3rd, 2006 at 11:59 am
Sorry for double posting, but I saw something else on the site. She actually said that she took the book 7 manuscript on the plane (bound in elastic bands though)
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Jordan
October 3rd, 2006 at 12:04 pm
3rd post in a row, so sorry, but…
THE DOOR ON HER SITE IS OPEN!
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Jordan
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:47 pm
jeez….. its been a WHILE and yall are still at it, lol. wuts going on in the rumor site today?
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:52 pm
I read some of the stuff above about “what JKR said “in an interview”". What she says in interview dont always necesarily have to be true. Its annoying to you guys spout “facts” about stuff you dont really know about. She might be just having a laugh at our expense. If I was a writer [and I am] and I was that famous [and I'm not] I’d sure as hell mess with my readers. I STILL DO NOT THINK DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD!! so BITE ME. jk about the last part.
October 3rd, 2006 at 3:54 pm
oh, has she announced the title of the last book yet? I’m really tired of ppl coming up with the MOST RETARDED titles. “Harry Potter and the Power of Love????” WTF!?!?! I hope she announces it soon or I may barf with stupid titles like that.
October 3rd, 2006 at 6:44 pm
jordan -
whats the door do — i opened it and it didnt reely do anything
October 3rd, 2006 at 7:40 pm
RaptorTwelve–
Jesus where have you been for the past 5 months? JK has repeatedly been saying that HES GONE. AND NOT COMING BACK. And she apologizes to DumbledoreIsNotDead.com. And if she did announce the 7th title I think this site would explode with 12 billion posts a day. But yeah I’m soooooo effing sick of the gay titles. And people are like I have a guess to the title…OMG are you serious?! You guys really htink of the MILLION titles that could be you think you have the right one? Yeah right and this is coming from JK. I mean someone who will go down in wirting history. She has abrilliant mind and surprises us. Yeha like people can guess what she has the idea for her title…
YESS THE DOOR AND OPEN AND THERE IS A NEW WOMBAT TEST!!
This is what you do–
Okay first light the candle by clicking ir.
Put up the red quill.
Click the WOMBAT book [[to the left of her desk]]
Click the clover [[bottom left]]. This should reveal a key. Drag the key to the desk drawer, its hard to fnd but its to the left. Then this parts a pain, but u have to “unlock” the drawer. Make sure the key is touchign the end of the desk right in the middle. It takes a while but be patient. Go to mugglenet.com if you have quesitons, I submitted what to do with a screencap.
Jordan–
No its true she did. She had to explain to everyone that she could NOT be separated with the drafts and I thin she had some problems but the let her on. And she kept them very dear to her =]
I HIGHLY dount that someone say “Harry will die”. a]] JK was prolly in first class and do you really think she’ll jsut leave them HANGING OUT?! b]] Okay its not liek in the book it says “Harry died.” I mean in the highly highly unlikely chance that it was hangin out it wa prolly liek one fourth of a sentnce! I mean c’mon, and IF Harry Harry dies it would be throughly explained in liek 2 pages…not half a sentence. Common sense guys.
October 4th, 2006 at 4:08 am
Ok but i dont really think any of us can guess the title of the new book i mean look back
ps had little to no relation to cos and poa and so on. no one can really guess, it could be anything at all it could even be something completely useless to the rest of the series hell it could even have one of jkr’s newly made up words so i’m nort even going to bother with a guess
and i think harry and voldemort will both kill each other at the same time
October 4th, 2006 at 10:43 am
Just thought I’d say, WOMBAT door is now closed.
Also, even though Jo’ may have meant ‘Albus Dumbledore is dead’ she has only ever said things like, ‘Don’t expect him to do a Gandalf’ and ‘Dumbledore is dead.’
Well, if he’s not dead we can’t expect him to do a Gandalf, can we? And Dumbledore has a family, so why couldn’t she have meant Aberforth?
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October 4th, 2006 at 12:11 pm
Jordan- yes i suppose so but i think she was refferingto our dumbledored, harry’s dumbledore, the one that died. She doesn’t want him to come back or it would be to similar to LOTR,
October 4th, 2006 at 12:12 pm
Can someone plz explian to me what a WOMBAT is??
October 4th, 2006 at 5:18 pm
why was the WOMBAT door only open for like a day?
October 4th, 2006 at 11:12 pm
That makes me so mad…I tried for an hour to figure out what to do behind the door, and I got nothing…I was gonna go back today, but noooooo…yeah, Im bitter, lol. Next time, I suppose…thats how you get your name to do the wombat, yeah?
October 5th, 2006 at 3:46 am
Whats the WOMBAT?
October 5th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
A test..:P
October 6th, 2006 at 2:04 am
what sight is it on?
October 6th, 2006 at 5:38 am
Hay guys…
youguys got alot of new ideas, buti have to agreewith the other chosen one. jk wouldnt just leave hernotes lying around. hay whatkind of questions are on the WOMBAT? and whys it called WOMBAT? so what soes wveryone think the big thing about lily is? cause like someone said something about harry having lilys eyes is important and we learn alot on harrys parrents but theres this big thing about lily!!
October 7th, 2006 at 1:42 am
Jade… yeah we know Lily is going to play some importance, remember he sed he was going back to Godrics Hallow well mabey he learns something there
October 7th, 2006 at 4:04 am
Dumbledore is not dead. When harry finishes off the Dark Lord, he will just pop up from behind a dustbin and say, “Ah, Harry, excellent, excellent. A pleasant surprise, isn’t it? I enjoyed the duel between Voldemort and you. Pity I couldn’t join, Fawkes accidentally broke my wand while playing.”
October 7th, 2006 at 9:39 am
that would be interesting… except he might be able to use the pieces like hagrid does.
October 7th, 2006 at 9:43 am
what about cho? does anyone think she will re appear in the 7th book?
October 7th, 2006 at 11:22 am
I don’t think Harry even really liked Cho, but he thought he did. He liked her a small bit before the Tri Wizard tournament, but then once he found out she liked Cedric (Cedric being an ‘enemy’ because he and Harry were against each other) then he naturally wanted her more.
Also, I know you were joking Death Eater, but I do like that Dumbledore theory
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Also, I got Exceeds Expectations on WOMBAT! Whoopie! I’m just going on HP Lexicon to see if I beat any of their staff, I got very different answers from them
October 8th, 2006 at 5:34 am
death eater
that was good…
i agree wif jordan on da fing wif cho…hay do guys do that alot?? sorry bout that last one!!
who reakons one of harry, fon or hermoine(soz bout the spellin) will die??
October 8th, 2006 at 6:07 am
Some guys do that quite a bit, even if they don’t know they are doing it.
I think and HOPE that Ron will die. I don’t want Hermione to go with Ron, it’d just be wrong. If Ron’s death is the only way to assure that, then so be it…
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October 8th, 2006 at 7:17 am
lol, why dont you want ron 2 go wif hermione? im not sure who i think will die…i just hope its not harry, itll b 2 sad. i have this theorie that once i get near the end, my bestie is gonna read the rest then tell me if its bad or good then if its bad i just wont read it and ill make up the rest in my head!! lol!! i know that sounds really weird!lol, i reakon hagrid will die, but i dont want hom to…
October 8th, 2006 at 12:52 pm
I just don’t like the idea of Ron and Hermione…
I hope Hermione doesn’t die, I really like her. I’d personally murder Jo’ if she got rid of her >=). Hermione is just a great character. People think she has got more rebelious through-out the books and have started to dislike her. I don’t think she has changed much. Besides, who doesn’t like a rebel, as Rita Skeeter once said to Harry.
I can honestly say that I’d rather Hagrid and Harry die (both, not one or the other) rather than Hermione. And that’s saying something! Harry and Hagrid are great characters in my eyes!
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October 8th, 2006 at 2:20 pm
lol wut if in the end of the 7th book, harry vs. voldy and right before voldy kills him, he wakes up and discovers that everything that has happened was a dream an that his parents were still alive, etc… lol i no that it most likely wont happen but… there’s like a .000000001% chance but that would suck lol
October 8th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
sry if thast didnt make any sense but…
October 8th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
I still really think percy will die. So there.
October 9th, 2006 at 9:43 am
Percy might die but i don’t know if he will. J.K. seems like the person that would rather torture people than have them just die, for example i think Mr. Weasley will die and Percy will feel partially responsible for not being there
October 9th, 2006 at 9:46 am
she’ll sort of torture percy by having more and more people who are close to him like she does to harry
October 9th, 2006 at 4:54 pm
Well, i dont think he’ll just trip and fall and break his neck and thats all..that would be sorta funny, butcha know..I do think there will be all sorts of heart ache and saddness and all that good stuff first…
October 9th, 2006 at 6:41 pm
Hey guys ary I haven’t posted I’ve been realllllllllly busy!
Yeah I got Exceeds Expectations!! Ha go us Jordan.
So I didn’t read all the posts [[haha like 2-3 tops]].
So yep.
Ohh today I went to open house at Mercersburg Acadamy in Pen. Anyone know what I’m talking about. I loved it, it was awesome.
October 12th, 2006 at 5:35 am
hay does anyone get really into the books, like emotionally…like crying and stuff?
October 12th, 2006 at 5:35 am
hay does anyone get really into the books, like emotionally…like crying and stuff?
i get like that sometimes…so i hope it wont be to sad…lol!
October 12th, 2006 at 11:58 am
The books sometimes make me a bit sad, but I don’t cry. Nothing wrong with a sad book though!
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October 12th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
sry guys that i havent been on this week (3 field hockey games in a row , ugh , an another tomorrow) well JK will prolly try to make it “emotional” like all sad an stuff…
October 12th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
off topic question:
anyone know anything about fuel cells?
wutever happened to collin creevey, u never hear about him any more.
October 12th, 2006 at 6:08 pm
haha..I cried at the end of the GoF movie..reading it made me sad, but seeing it made me cry…bah.
October 13th, 2006 at 10:18 am
The end of the Goblet of Fire! I shed a tear, that was sad, and I’m a BLOKE!
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October 13th, 2006 at 10:19 am
That is to say the Goblet of Fire movie.
October 13th, 2006 at 12:36 pm
its not sad! omg lol:D i thought it was a bit pothentic, the way Dan acted it out sorri ut hes exactly like hp, but hes not the best actor in the world ( and on the inteview clips i’ve seen hes a bit full of himslef lol) he doesnt let the others talk, but i STILL like him xx xxxDanxxx
October 13th, 2006 at 5:07 pm
i agree with HPgirl- it was NOT sad! i didnt cry in either
anyone know when the next movie is coming out>>>..??
October 13th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
like july something like 2days after or before book 7
October 13th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
I thought it was july 7?
October 13th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
i got an outstanding on the wombat. but the next movie comes out i think july 12. are we positive that the book is released july 7, just wondering
and good to have you back on the site other chosen one
October 14th, 2006 at 1:08 am
I love you guys all dearly, but I DO NOT THINK DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD. idc what she says a million times, idc what she apologizes about, when I have the book in my hands, and I’m done reading it, and Dumbledore is NOT ALIVE….. I’ll concede and say that I was wrong. HOWEVER. Until then, she say whatever the bloody hell she wants to. Ever heard the term red herring? call me a skeptic, but the circumstances of his death were ridiculous. Too many gaps. As a writer, the best was to bring somebody “back from the dead” is to leave gaps in the way they died. Too many un explained things that happened. With patience and an open mind,
Raptor
October 14th, 2006 at 10:48 am
idk raptor but maybe he reely died to give harry protection or maybe he TOLD snape to kill him…
October 14th, 2006 at 12:44 pm
is it official that the 7th book is comin out 7/7/07?
October 14th, 2006 at 11:47 pm
The best was for a harry potter fan to deal with a harry potter death is to think up ways that person could still be alive…
I read that on an icon..:D
October 15th, 2006 at 7:03 am
Ok, Dumbledores death did have alot of unexplained gaps. Here are my theories about it
Theory Number 1
Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him.
Dumbledore goes to cave.
Death Eaters raid.
Dumbledore comes back to school.
Snape performs says Avada Kedavra but does a non-verbal Expeliarmous.
Then Dumbledore either:
Performs a spell so he can fall off the tower without being hurt and then drinks Draught of Living Death (which explains his sleeping position)
OR
He does a spell so he can fall off the tower without being hurt and Transigures a rock into his body (remember, he used to be a Transfiguration teacher. I think Jo’ did this for a reason) then runs away.
Theory Number 2
Dumbledore and Harry go to cave.
The substance in the container is Draught of Living Death (we don’t know how long the effects take to work)
Death Eaters Raid
Dumbledore and Harry back at school.
Snape does Expeliarmous and Dumbledore is forced asleep by Draught of Living Death
Also, what about Sirius? I think he is behind the veil, still alive, but can’t get out. Mabye Harry can throw in the mirror to communicate with him? Or (this idea is a bit far fetched) mabye Harry can throw in a Portkey?
By the way, Order of the Phoenix is out on the 13th of July 2007 (confirmed)
7th book will be out 7th July 2007 (unconfirmed)
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Jordan
October 15th, 2006 at 7:07 am
(Jesus, I’m making a habit of double posting) Sorry about the double post, but the Order of the Phoenix is going in cinemas on a Friday the 13th, so lets hope nothing bad happens
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October 15th, 2006 at 7:33 am
how can i go bad , well mabey 4 other ppl , but we are hp freaks we’ll love it i dont care if its the unluckiest day of the year i cant wait lol …
October 15th, 2006 at 8:47 am
Jordan – he is dead but i think Snape killed 4 a reason thats y him and Dumbledore were arguing , he sed he didn’t want to do it anymore but DUmbledore insits, it has somethig to do with it i knwow it does..
October 15th, 2006 at 11:39 am
Yea its kinda wierd how he died there was way to many gaos in his death
jorden rember the mirror harry broke it so that wouldnt work
October 15th, 2006 at 12:18 pm
well those r cool ideas
does anyone think that collin / denis creevey will have anything to do in the 7th book?
October 16th, 2006 at 9:53 am
I dont think that, should dumbledore be forced into a spot where he needs to die, or look dead, he would make 50billion percautions to just look dead. I mean, he explained that death really is not a scary thing in book 2, so if he felt it was his time to go, I think he’djust let it happen.
so, I think that snape killed dumbledore, on dumbledores orders. Oh, and the reason he went flying back? When you preform an unforgivable curse, you are really supposed to want to do it for it to work right, but because snape really didnt want to kill him, it kinda got messy instead of being all nice.
I do think that snape will help harry later..or at least he’ll try. I really think it would have been a good thing if dumbledore had told someone that snape was gonna kill him if it was all prearranged, butchaknow..
October 16th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
jordan – the thing that discriminates against youyr thery of dumbledore not being dead is the fact if snape used expelliarmus how come he din’t die as the result of the unforgivable curse.
October 16th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
well for me i dont see how dumbleodre is dead he so powerful and there was way to many gaps in his “death” but for the unforgiveable curse i dunno this can sound corny maybe snape knew a way to like counter it or something like that. we knew malfoy had to do something to dumbledore so maybe snap did do what he was suppose to do
October 16th, 2006 at 7:09 pm
as far as dumbledore being powerful, even the most powerful has to die. otherwise what voldemorte is doing wouldnt be such an unorthodox idea in the wizarding world.
October 17th, 2006 at 1:19 am
jordan
i liked your theory about sirius, i didnt want him to die!
i cant wait to c oop at the movie…not as good as the books but i still like them.
my name
i dunno if coin and denis come back in the books…they seemed to be just in it for the basilik and the DA, but if the DA come back in to back up harry then i guess they will be in it…i think colin was funny!
hay i just remembered lockheart…gildery lockheart? was that his whole name…ill look it up…i remember that they saw him at the hospital in the 6th book i think! anyone think that hell come back in?
October 17th, 2006 at 2:33 am
I think that lcokhart is a little too far gone in the head to help anyone out..
Oh, and other chosen one, I just read your theory about the sphinx’s riddle…and, that really makes sence…I like it
October 17th, 2006 at 10:01 am
jordan – the thing that discriminates against youyr thery of dumbledore not being dead is the fact if snape used expelliarmus how come he din’t die as the result of the unforgivable curse
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Ah, but I’m still right. If you don’t mean an unforgivible curse, it either happens or it doesn’t. Snape didn’t mean it, therefore it didn’t happen. Check Barty Crouch’s word in The Goblet of Fire.
Oh, and LetteOwl, as I said, it either happens or it doesn’t (or happens very little). If you don’t mean it that doesn’t mean it will happen “a little messed up”, it will just happen.
Anyone else want to try to spot a flaw in my vast Harry Potter knowledge?
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By the Way, when I say Barty Crouch, I’m talking about Barty Crouch Jr. in Alastor form.
October 17th, 2006 at 12:05 pm
sorry i meant the unbreakable vow
October 18th, 2006 at 3:49 am
Yeah jordan i have one how can you kill someone very little LOL
just joking but that is a really kool theory. but i just wanna know y would he want or need to pretend to die that just doesnt seem like something he’d do but idk.
October 18th, 2006 at 9:34 am
I think it’s really clear that Dumbledore is dead. If Snape had not really killed him, then Snape would be dead because of the unbreakable vow. I think that they discussed this in advance and Dumbledore told Snape to kill him instead of Malfoy. Dumbledore was willing to sacrifice himself to save Malfoy from becomming a murderer and I think that will be important in the next book.
I also think that in the end Harry will have the chance to kill Snape, but he won’t do it because he will decide to trust in what Dumbledore has told him about Snape.
I am wondering if the two Deaths will be Harry and Voldemort. Something about the way the prophecy was worded. I think maybe in the end they will be linked so that in order for Voldermort to be killed, Harry will have to die. Maybe because they now share blood??
Comments?
October 18th, 2006 at 10:45 am
Ok, anon, about the Unbreakable Vow.
We have never had real proof that Snape even knew what the mission was. At Snapes’ house in Spinners End Snape got up to close the curtains. Sure, he thought he was being watched, not a bad excuse…but what if he wanted to do something else, like, oh, I don’t know…mabye use his Legilimency skills? He got a shrewd idea of the plan. Only a person who knew of the complete plan could have understood the vow, therefore the Vow may not have applied to Snape.
Also, if you don’t believe that ^^^ then mabye the “completing the task” was just to mend the vanishing cabinet.
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October 18th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
but snape didnt know about the plan to mend the vanishing cabnitet, draco thought of that himself. i *think* that draco’s orders were just to kill dumbly any way he can
but what if the unbreakable vow ISNT done with…
October 18th, 2006 at 6:22 pm
BUT DUMBLEDORE KNEW ABOUT IT!!!! OMG HE BASICALLY TELLS HIM. He knows that Malfoy trusts Snape and so since Snape is still loyal to Dumbledore, Dumbledore tells him about it and they formulate a plan for Snape to “kill him” and therefore make Voldemort more open becuase the only man he fears is dead.
October 18th, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Hey, but, does Snape, or anyone ever just say “draco’s task is to kill dumbledore, and this is definatly the thing we are talking about, no ifs, ands or buts.” I mean, because Snape never said clearly what he was gonna do, could have have just vowed to make sure draco compleated some small, do nothing task that would lead up to something else…
I need to go back and read that whole chapter, but I think that she might have kept that vague for a reason…I mean, during the whole book everyone is wondering what he has vowed to do that when we get to the end, we assume that he vowed to help kill Dumbledore…Does any of this make sence?
So…Maybe Dumbledore is still alive..if Snape didnt technicaly vow to kill him…
Up untill now Ive been onvinced tht Dumbledore was dead..
Okay, Im going back to bed now.
October 19th, 2006 at 2:21 am
But once again dumbledore had no reason to pretend to die he is supposed to be the bravest wizard in the world. but that seems like something a coward would do. i’m sure dumbledore is dead unless u guys have a good reason he would need to pretend to die.
October 19th, 2006 at 5:52 am
I still mostly think that dumbledore died…thats just a shadow in the back of my mind..but, if he did pretend, Im sure he had a really good reason.
October 19th, 2006 at 11:39 am
Had no reason to pretend to die? Of course he did! There were still people skeptical about Voldemort, and somethat didn’t realize the dangers. What could have made Voldemort feel safe apart from the fact that the only person he ever feared was gone?
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October 19th, 2006 at 12:29 pm
does a death eatar not say when greyback goes to kill dumbledore, “no the task is dracos”
October 19th, 2006 at 5:42 pm
im not sure at all… if dumbly wasnt dead then it wouldnt be unknown for long– he would interfere to save others
but on the other hand, you could argue that if he wasnt dead, then he could be working on destroying the horcruxes… i’m confused cause IDK!!
October 20th, 2006 at 1:22 am
But, Dumbledore isnt really the type who works in the shadows..hes more up front and out there.
October 20th, 2006 at 10:10 am
Well, it’s been, what, 4 days in the Harry Potter world since his death and you think he’d reveal himself already? I think your forgetting the dates
We’ll just have to either a) Wait for Book 7 or b) Pressure Rowling or c) Nick the manuscript
I like a mix between b and c, personally…
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October 20th, 2006 at 2:11 pm
i personally suggest stealing the manuscript- i can picture it now- 4 wizards apparate into jk rowlings house, take out their meatal wands (guns) and use the shootiatus curse on anything that moves and then go into her workroom and steal the manuscript and read it b4 going to jail.
October 20th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
lol– i prefer option C also
alrite, i just figured out that “regulas” is a star oo and that there is a star “Sirius B” –im really slow arent i?
October 20th, 2006 at 8:45 pm
yeah a little
but we’ll forgive u
I’m really not sure that dumbledore is dead (like all of us really) but dumbledore had a good strong reason for trusting snape and i was just thinking that maybe they had an unbreakable vow as well it would explain why dumbledore trusted him so much and tried to shut harry down everytime harry was accusing him of trying to kill him or something. dumbledore hates death eaters and he wouldnt just go and let one teach at the school unless he was absolutely convinced that he was on their side thats wat i think anyways.
October 21st, 2006 at 7:52 am
Mabye Snape did die. He ran off as soon as he did whatever he did to Dumbledore. For all we know he could have dropped dead whilst he was telling Voldemort what he supposedly did
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October 21st, 2006 at 10:01 am
who knows…i dont…
October 21st, 2006 at 11:44 am
ok guys..
im sure that rab are not the initials of one perons name.. think about it.. if it was regulus black then how come hermion iditn find out at the end of the half bloop prince… cuz she checked out all the peple with rab as initials.. there will be a deeper and more significant side to this
another thing is the bartender at the hogs head might play a part… cuz it was mentioned that harry found the man vaguely familiar and his description migh match dumbledore.. ie he had silver hair and a long silver beard… he was tall and thin and the place also smelled like gaots and dumbly mentioned that his brothered was caught performing charms on goats so maybe jk was giving us a hint..
i defintiely think sumthing is up
October 21st, 2006 at 12:28 pm
she was looking for WELL KNOWN PEOPLE– from what i can gather, regulas isnt famous…
yea i think that the bartender might be abeforth but i thought the description of the bartender sed he was bald…
sry if im wrong guys… i have a headache from getting elbowed in the jaw yesterday…
October 21st, 2006 at 12:31 pm
Hey havent been on here for ages
salu: the bartender at the hogs head is Aberforth, Dumbldores brother
October 21st, 2006 at 12:32 pm
i think
October 22nd, 2006 at 3:05 am
Hey u’r right salu i just read that one but didnt take any notice of it but now that you bring it up it makes alot of sence
but one thing wat does abeforth have to do wid da series?
October 22nd, 2006 at 10:22 am
i dont know… only JK knows…lol
October 23rd, 2006 at 9:44 am
hiya nia haha!! … ooh i had a thaught the othet day!
any new topic of anythin like tha
October 23rd, 2006 at 10:04 am
wat if dumbledore sumhow switched himself with aberforth before entering hogwarts.. remember they first apparated in hogsmeads.. its only a theory
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:24 am
salu….
well mabey but harry was with him the whole time, and jk has said that dumbledore is DEAD! sori that i keep printing this xx
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:25 am
i think alberforth might play some importance to the cook , hum….
October 23rd, 2006 at 11:26 am
book**** sorri x
October 23rd, 2006 at 4:35 pm
Sorry, Ive been gone a few days…
I think aberforth will have something to do with the last book…Regalus too…I mean, JKR isnt in the habit of mentioning people like that and then leaving it…
October 24th, 2006 at 12:58 am
yeah you guys are right…wat bout the house elves though, dbby, winky and kretcher?
October 24th, 2006 at 6:29 am
She said that she would introduce no new characters for Book 7, so she must have introduced Regulus and Aberforth for a reason. She has already said that Aberforth was the bartender of the Hogs Head. I think the Hogs Head will be important for something. She made it part of the series without us knowing. It was introduced in Book 1, where Quirrel found out about the Stone, and has been in every book since (except mabye Chamber of Secrets). So, who (apart from Regulus) do we know that has the Initials RB? No-one except Regulus, and we has evidence that his middle name begins with an A. The A couldn’t be and because it wouldn’t be capitalized if it was “and”. R a B wouldn’t sound right anyway, so it would have been R&B, but she didn’t put that.
Also, until she says Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore I’ll believe he is alive. “Dumbledore” could mean any Dumbledore, not just Albus.
Also, a spoof for you to think about. Professor Marchbanks says she examined him for his NEWTS, but that would make her around 200 years old. I doubt that! The examiners were called ancient looking, but come on, 200 years old?
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October 24th, 2006 at 4:46 pm
who sed dumbly was 200 y/o? i wsa thinking hes be like in his 90’s…
October 27th, 2006 at 5:07 am
does any 1 relise that the DADA job has only stared being jinx since harry arivved??
becuase in the 6th book dumbledoor mentions a DADA teacher who served the school for 50 years! Voldermort was at school 50 years ago since harry arrived , so the job being jinxed mabey has somthing to do with Harry or the 7th book???? tell be wat u think ??
xxx
October 27th, 2006 at 5:18 am
My Name- we dont know how old dumbledore is cause he neva says so… he culd be ??? y/o for wall we know
October 27th, 2006 at 6:47 am
Harry potter girl
i thought they where saying in book 6 that the job had been jinxed SINCE voldemort wanted the job i dont remember but i dont think that dumbledore mentioned when the dada teacher started or finished
October 27th, 2006 at 1:39 pm
Maybe all the teachers before harry started school had just left. I mean, ill grandmothers, better paying jobs, marriage…So, to other people that really wouldnt seem like such a bad thing…But, then when harry arrivd bad stuff started happening to the dada teachers…
October 27th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
thats A LOT of teachers… youd think people would catch on after the first 25…
but think about it, dumbly was a teacher at hogwarts when voldy started. he could nt have been reely old cause he still had “auburn hiar and beard” i think so really all we know is that his age is ABOUT x+57=Age… o well…
October 28th, 2006 at 5:02 am
magical me -
no when harry enters for a lesson with dumbledore he tells him where they picked up last and Dumbledore says the dada teacher at the time was (someone) and that person served the skwl for 50 YEARS! and int he chamber of secrets Harry learns that voldermort was at school 50 YEARDS! SINCE HE (HARRY) started so mabey the job being jinxed has got somthing 2 do with it i dont know….
October 28th, 2006 at 8:56 am
i thought the same thing as magical me…
October 29th, 2006 at 1:07 am
i thought that when dumbledore and harry saw when voldemort came for the DADA job in the pensieve, after they came out harry and dumbledore started talkin and dumbledore said something like “and no teacher has stayed longer than a year after that” or something along those lines
October 29th, 2006 at 9:07 am
hum…
October 29th, 2006 at 11:43 am
yea it was sumthin like that…
October 29th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
yup yup