Top Secret Gas Pill
Anytime you hear the words “Incalculable Market Potential”, don’t just walk away, run for your life (and pocketbook)!
That’s about a 33% SAVING!!! And… this was just his 2nd tank of gas using the pills!!!!! Stay tuned to hear Scott’s exciting testimony when he returns from a road trip!!!!
Note: Scott was the #1 seller of Direct TV satellites making $1 million /year… and now …
and now he is on board with our company because of the TREMENDOUS, Incalculable, Market Potential !!!!
[Update March 11, 2006]
We’re now the top search for Top Secret Gas Pill and #4 when searching for Gas Pill.
If any of you gas pill believers really want to convince me that this works send me a month supply and I’ll post the results here. I drive a 2000 Olds minivan. My commute is 60 miles round trip and we average one trip a month of ~500 miles. Including nights out, church, visits to friends and shopping we drive about 2200 miles a month and will fill up about 6 or 7 times.
If it improves my milage by 15% or more I’ll sign up under you for the whole MLM experience at the highest membership level. If it fails you agree to bugger off and let me bash your product in peace.
[Update March 22, 2006]
I am withdrawing my offer to test the pills due to more than a few accounts of car problems resulting from their use. Maybe some day when I get a cheap little commuter car I’ll try it, but for now I cannot afford to be without my vehicle. There is one first hand account below of a failed fuel pump and I’ve received 3 emails from people warning me of problems.
January 13th, 2006 at 10:26 pm
Scott:
Please let me know when this started and what the potential is.
Paul
email me at doctorduff@aol.com
March 5th, 2006 at 3:20 am
http://www.vgas.mybpbiz.com
That is teh link you need to join the new gas pill stuff for the Top Secret Gas Pill up to 35% savings..
http://www.vgas.mybpbiz.com
March 10th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Rofl. You loser. Have no life. Bitch. get a life.
March 12th, 2006 at 3:50 pm
Just because you gay loser cannot afford to make a bioperformance account and make $1000’s a day, doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Dude, seriously, get a life. Shut this gay site down noob.
March 12th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
Read this. If you understand anything about cars, you will get it, if not, then shut up and dont talk. This is Official Industrial News.
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BioPerformance Introduces Gas Pill that Increases Gas Mileage
BioPerformance just released a gas pill to people all over the USA that increases gas mileage up to 35%.
(PRWEB) January 4, 2006 — BioPerformance introduces gas pill that increases gas mileage.
Have you ever wondered why the internal combustion engine has remained basically unchanged since the first Model T rolled off the assembly line in 1908?
“If GM kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25 cars that got 1000 MPG.” –Bill Gates
Since the early days of the industrial revolution, technology has taken us from the golden age to the space age. We only need to compare our old computer to new models to see how quickly things change for the better. Since this is true, how is it possible that the first Model T averaged 17 miles per gallon and the gas mileage of new Ford Explorers is exactly the same. What’s wrong with this picture?
BioPerformance has asked itself the same question. They just released a product December 8, 2005, to people all over the USA that has incredible fuel saving power. The product called “BioPerformance Fuel†is produced in pill or powder form. When inserted into your gas tank prior to your regular gas fill up, BioPerformance boasts an increase in gas mileage of up to 35%. Numerous testimonials can be read on the company website http://www.new.mybpbiz.com.
This revolutionary breakthrough product can also decrease harmful emissions thereby improving your local air quality. Along with offering significant gas savings, BioPerformance also offers a networking opportunity to earn income by sharing their revolutionary gas pill with others. Since BioPerformance, Inc. based in Dallas, TX went live on Thursday, December 8, 2005, over 1,800 people have enrolled, and well over 500 people have already received their first commission checks totaling over $300,000.00 in commissions.
To find out more about their breakthrough product and the income opportunity, visit the following website:
URL: http://www.new.mybpbiz.com
March 12th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
ZhaR,
First off I’m not gay or a loser, nor are those adjectives mutually inclusive. I know plenty of losers who aren’t gay and plenty of gay people who aren’t losers. Grow up and drop the name calling.
I’ve read all the information on the “Gas Pill” site and the science is just marketing speak with no actual scientific proof.
Heat, or the “heat value” is not the “main property of a fuel”. What makes an internal combustion engine work is the expansion of the fuel air mixture when ignited. Heat is a waste product of this controlled explosion and the main reason our engines are water cooled. If we wanted more heat we wouldn’t pipe it through a radiator and waste even more energy spinning a fan to remove it.
Flashpoint is the lowest temperature at which a vapor of a combustable liquid can be made to ignite. It already implies that the mixture of vapor and air is ideal to produce the lowest temperature ignition. It is a property of the combustable liquid and provided with materials as a saftey guide. Keep the liquid or vapor below it’s flash point and it won’t blow up on you.
You should check the definition of dew point also. It’s the temperature at which air becomes saturated and forms dew. You really wouldn’t want the fuel to start condensing inside the engine. Liquid fuel doesn’t burn well.
I could go on, but it’s been a long weekend and I’m ready to put my feet up.
March 12th, 2006 at 8:24 pm
[...] Link Right 2 » Top Secret Gas Pill If any of you gas pill believers really wants to convince me that this works send me a month supply and I’ll post the results here. I drive a 2000 Olds minivan. My commute is 60 miles round trip and we average one trip a month of ~500 miles. Including nights out, church, visits to friends and shopping we drive about 2200 miles a month and will fill up about 6 or 7 times. [...]
March 12th, 2006 at 8:36 pm
If the stuff is so good, then why doesn’t bioperformance guarantee any results? from the small print “BioPerformance, Inc. doesn’t guarantee anyone any results using BioPerformance Fuel” If its soooo good why disclaim it? Doesn’t make any sence to me.
Mac
March 13th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
Oh, all right then, so ANTON is a genuis now, and he knows everything about cars… Dude please, you have no idea what you are talking about. Listen to me, why have a disclaimer? You never know if a retard will come to the company and sue it claiming “Oh, they said ill get results, but i never did, so lemme have my $100,000 now.” when he actually never even tested it. Anton, HAVE you acutally tried it? I dont really care if you use information from the site to prove your points, BUT IF THE PRODUCT WORKS IT WORKS! WHO CARES WHAT IT SAYS!? If it is going to work for 99%, and not for 1% they got a chance of loosing the whole company if there will be no disclaimer, or any guarantee. They don’t make you use them, but seriously, if you have read my article from above, you would get the point. I have the rights, right now, to report this website to BioPerformance, and have them sue you for FALSE accusations against the forum brining their rank down. It is no joke, when you go against a BILLIONARE company that has most advanced software there is. You have not tried it, therefore you don;t know, and what people say IS NOT ENOUGHT! Think about what I just said, and if you are going to continue this, I am going to personally take things into matter to bring this site down.
March 13th, 2006 at 9:49 pm
ZhaR, or is it really Nikolay or Raisa?
I’m just saying that the science on the BioPerformane site is bad. I seriously doubt it works, but not having tested it myself I cannot say for certain. Get a second opinion about the science, or just continue thinking I’m a genius, either way I don’t care.
Why do you think a guarantee would cause the end of the company? There are a lot of companies that have lifetime guarantees of their products. They all seem to stay in business longer than the ones who don’t. Look at Zippo, Craftsman, and Snap-On to name a few.
The wording on the guarantee is up to the company offering it and is almost always limited to the purchase price of the product. All I’d ask for is that if I’m not happy after a period of time that I return the unused pills for a full refund. I don’t see how that can cause anyone to lose their whole company.
I did read your plagerization of a BioPerformace press release above. It appears to me to be written by the same peole who write the website and didn’t really prove anythying. Simply saying something works is not proof that it does. If BioPerformance is truely a billion dollar company, then they can afford a couple independent tests.
If you are indeed making thousands of dollars per day, then you can afford to send me a month supply of the pills. If they manage to help my gas milage by as little as 15% then I will join the MLM under you at the highest membership level. If it makes you feel better I will even sign a contact before accepting the pills that states as much.
I will document the entire process with pictures, detailed driving and milage logs, blog about it everywhere I can and if it works, I will become your biggest fan and sing your praises all over the country.
However threatening me won’t impress BioPerformance and may just get you a visit from the West Springfield police. Last I checked we still had the right to free speech as long as it’s not slander or liable, and this is a far cry from either.
March 13th, 2006 at 11:02 pm
yeah, put that in your como se llama and smoke it!
Tony
March 19th, 2006 at 3:21 pm
The gas powder works better than the pills.
I got 8 mpg more in my first tank full.
We don’t give out samples because people don’t use the product properly unless they have money invested in it.
The first tank has to be double treated and it may take up to 4 tanks to clean out the junk in your car and see results.
If you put too much, it could actually give you lower gas mileage.
People will pay closer attention to how they are using it if they pay for it.
You can go online and buy 2 bottles and prove it does or doesn’t work.
People hate to see people in multi-level- marketing making money so they call them scams.
You do MLM every day, you just don’t get paid for it.
If someone asks you were there’s a good restuarant and you tell them, they like it, they tell someone else. Is the restuarant going to send you a check for the new customers?? No. Neither will Wal-mart.
All businesses are basically MLM. You have the owners at Wal-Mart in the 10 ten richest people in the U.S. while their employees work for peanuts.
Sounds like a scam to me.
March 20th, 2006 at 7:24 pm
Anton -
I’m getting some sample pills from a friend whose testing the gas pill now and has seen good results. I’m going to test it on an upcoming trip in 2 SUV’s. Neither of us are going to sign up or buy anything until we’ve proven to ourselves it works.
If it works for me then I’ll take you up on your offer and give you some samples to try – on the condition that if it works for you, you write me up big and send lots of people to me to buy it or sign up and join.
Talk is cheap, the proof is in the pudding. That said, however, fair is fair on the tradeoff to promote. I’ll keep you posted.
MDC
March 20th, 2006 at 10:33 pm
I got sucked in to Bio Performance and do I ever regret it. I DOUBLE TESTED in in my car, and in a friends van that in used in his courier business. My car got exactly ZERO more miles per gallon. I kept impecable records over 5+ tanks. At one point I thought I saw an increase but it quickly disappeared. My friend got the same results in his delivery van. He has kept very accurate records over the years on gas usage — after 6 tanks he asked to stop using it as he was afraid it may cause engine trouble. He stopped using it before I was on my 3rd tank, HOWEVER on my 4th tank my car started stalling after running at high speeds (on the off ramp). THEN one night while returning from a trip I was 150 miles from home and stopped to refuel, put in the PILLS, and the car would not start. Walked to a motel with my very angry wife in tow asking why did you ever try that stupid stuff. It was late Friday night so I had to abandon my car to a repair station and call a friend to take me home — the fuel pump had failed!!!! I have driven Cadillac cars for over 35 years and I have never had a pump failure. The repair shop said they had NEVER replaced a fuel pump on a Cadillac. Afte $600+ repair, I returned to et my car. The gas milage was even worse now for some reason and the service engine light was on. NOW, I had to replace two oxygen sensors, AND idler control module to get it running smooth — another $600+. NOW, my car is getting the proper gas mileage WITHOUT THE PILL. Here is the real killer: I e-mailed the Bio Performance compant since that is the ONLY way to contact them — they do not have a published phone number, and they refuse to answer my e-mail requesting WHAT TO DO in order to regester a complaint, and seek justice. They refuse to give me an address to send a lawsuit, and simply will not reply. IF ANYONE KNOWS HOW TO CONTACT THEM LEGALY PLEASE REPLY TO ME AT TDOOLY7@AOL.COM -thanks.
NOTE: I am a graduate Engineer and know how to properly test the product exactly as instructed and did exactly that — THE PILLS DO NOT WORK, except to destroy engine components.
March 22nd, 2006 at 11:28 am
Anton, I do not use my personal information online. I am 16, and I have a brain. I use the nickname “ZhaR” because I use it everywhere, and thats my website. I also do not even use my own internet, my laptop basically “steals” someone’s internet lol… But its their fault they don’t put passwords. 54MBPS good speed.. lol. Btw what software did u use to track IP?
March 23rd, 2006 at 1:09 pm
I am withdrawing my offer to test the pills due to more than a few accounts of car problems resulting from their use. Maybe some day when I get a cheap little commuter car I’ll try it, but for now I cannot afford to be without my vehicle. There is one first hand account above of a failed fuel pump and I’ve received 3 emails from people warning me of problems.
If you want more, just google around for gas pill and read the comments.
March 24th, 2006 at 9:25 pm
ZhaR,
You may have a brain, but you certainly don’t have much for manners or ethics. You should be careful about “stealing” someone’s bandwidth as it’s illegal in many states. If I leave the keys in my car and someone drives of with it, who goes to jail for GTA? Absense of a lock is not consent to steal.
As for software to track IPs it’s in the logs when you visit any web site and gets saved when you post a comment. I just used traceroute to find your city, whois on zhar.org gave me a name, address and phone number. A reverse lookup of the phone number confirmed the street address and gave me another name. A google for your surname makes me think your family has recently immigrated from Moldova.
March 27th, 2006 at 2:30 pm
All I know is I was given some and I seriously got 5mpg better on that tank. I couldnt fuckin believe it.
I am the most skeptical bastard in the world. I still dont use it but do know that I have personally seen it work myself in 3 different cars.
I would never believe it if I didnt see it with my own eyes.
April 1st, 2006 at 12:59 pm
Maybe it’s all the crap that’s been loading up your fuel system like cholesterol in your veins finally had a reason to dislodge; and that caused your fuel pump to seize. (though I kinda doubt it. noone’s ever said that Cadillac had a lock on reliability!) Washington state required adding oxygenated gas to the fuel supply during the winter months a few years ago. That move caused lot’s of cars to stall needing replacement of fuel filters due to dislodged stuff in the fuel system. You just never know.
I just went from 14.8 to 17.6 mpg, in town, within the first 140 miles using the fuel pills. Just under 20% improvement. Not bad for a full sized Buick. The car runs great and I’m hoping the mileage will improve with further use. I say- Don’t knock ‘em till you’ve tried ‘em.
April 2nd, 2006 at 4:08 pm
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April 3rd, 2006 at 11:44 am
I’ll give you a month supply… let me know where to send it.
Provided you haven’t already taken someone else up on the offer.
Shawn
April 4th, 2006 at 11:53 pm
I love the dynamic of the gas pill deal. I have found no less than 6 (and there will be more) companies vying for a part of this market. Competition is good. I hope the fallout from imposters with bad products and bad service doesn’t ruin the day for the good products (and ultimately us, the users). I am amazed how few of us Knew products like these existed. Reasearch has found something like 7,000 oil and gas additive registered with the EPA. This shows the power of word of mouth and Network Marketing. There are 200+ million registered motor vehicles in the US. To capture 1% of the market, a marketing company will need about 2 million distributors, and that would be a billion dollar company. We will be able to choose which company to do business with (buy or sell product)just like we are able to choose which car company to buy our cars from. As for the product, the next few months will be interesting. Only companies with
1.) Products that work (most will do the same thing: cause fuel to burn efficiently due to a chemical reaction and lubricate parts with different components, ie flax, canola, exotic tropical oils etc.) AND
2.) Experienced mentors and leadership will survive.
MONEY is part of the allure of this gas pill dynamic. Saving it and making it. If anyone is considering the making money part, take an appropriate amount of time to find out who the mentors are that will work you. Blind web sites don’t tell us a thing about the mentors. getting in early doesn’t equal success. Personal contact and access to private training sessions will make this abundantly clear. As for those of you with product questions, I have tested several and will share my experience with those who want to increase their fuel economy. Post a request if info is wanted. YES, many of the products do work, without harming your car and many of the companies do have staffed (live) customer service departments. Don’t let one bad experience (or smelly pill) be the final opinion of whether there is something good to be had from fuel additives. I am glad to be able to save some money and fight back against $10 billion in profit last quarter by a big oil company. Let’s not bash, let’s engage in finding good answers and options for all of us. Thank you.
April 5th, 2006 at 9:53 am
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April 5th, 2006 at 3:23 pm
i tried “the Pill” and it fucked up my car royally.
i need over $1000.00 to fix the motherfucker back so it would run. “the pill” blew out my piston return springs and fucked up the muffler bearings. the mechanic said he had never seen such shit in his 45 years of fixin shit. Thxs BIOPERFOMANCE for fucking my ride up. All they do is hide behind their website, never return emails or shit.
GO FUCK YOURSELF and i hope everyone involved goes to HELL
April 5th, 2006 at 4:27 pm
Piston Return springs? Muffler bearings? That’s priceless! And Tom, the “gas nutrition” link isn’t working….
My brother called and told me about this today, just doing my research…
April 6th, 2006 at 11:52 am
Speaking of shit, you’re full of it.
April 6th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
Let’s compare, Ethos Enviromental Inc. vs. Bioperformance Per the BBB, Bioperformance less than 4 months in business and complaints filed. Ethos Enviromental Inc. 10 years in business worldwide, annual returning sales now in excess of $170,000,000.00 and no complaints filed, thus no listing. Test results Bioperformance has 2 questionable ISO 9000 test results and testimonials. Unfortunately these testimonials are provided by people making money from the “MAGIC PILL”. Let’s see, first the “MAGIC PILL”, normally takes up to 4 or 5 tank fulls to work. Or maybe you should try the powder, and/or well maybe you should try changing your fuel filter. For many of us this can take months, and by now you’re making money. You don’t want to be the one who says the “MAGIC PILL” doesn’t work as advertised. You want the “MAGIC PILL” to work, so subconsiencely you start changing your bad driving habits, no more jack rabbit starts, you start slowing down a little and lo n behold the pill starts to work. AMEN Ethosfr has all the test data you could ever possibly want(www.ethosfr.com, then click Library Tab)Tests have been performed on many types of vehicles(cars, trucks, boats, locomotives, hummers, jets, helicopters) and in fixed mount engines(generators, compressors, etc.), not all test data is available for obvious reasons. Plus this is backed up by over $170,000,000.00 of returning sales, from customers who have experienced millions of miles of improved mileage, reduced maintaince cost and reduced pollution. Clearly there no no comparison on the products, the “MAGIC PILL” vs. A tested, proven, patented, and guaranteed fuel enhancer. Now lets compare payplans, Bioperformance is great, everybody gets paid whether the “MAGIC PILL” works or not. No return, no guarantee and no money back ! And if the “MAGIC PILL” doesn’t work for you, good luck stopping their automatic withdrawl from your bank account(required automatic bank draft) in a timely manner. What a deal! Ethos mlm payplan is still being finalised, we don’t know all the details yet, but if the payplan is half as good as the product, there will be no limit to our future growth. Due to the overwelming response, our free enrollment has been extended to 8:00pm EST. Sunday April 9. Before its too late, investigate. All the information your looking for is at http://www.ethosfr.com, If you like what you see, visit my website at http://www.gasnutrition.com/sailing. Your other questions will be answered on the opportunity call tonight at 8:00 pm EST.
April 8th, 2006 at 11:46 am
I won’t put something in my vehicle without knowing the exact contents!Why doesn’t this copany specify what is in the pills? I could research it myself. I do know they smell like moth balls?
April 10th, 2006 at 1:24 am
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April 10th, 2006 at 8:33 pm
I have one thing to say about all of these people who refuse to try the pill because of science or whatever: dont listen to a word they have to say. They obviously have no idea what they are talking about. I started using the pills and I am not selling them (although I probably will so everyone I know can save money). I am saving over 35% in my van and 25% in my car and they are both running better than they have in a long time, all with no change in driving habits by the way. So you can debate all you want to about if these pills work or not. I will continue to save money while you waste your time and money saying there is no way they work.
April 11th, 2006 at 6:23 pm
Try this,get someone to give you a gas pill, then get a moth ball and smell them both seperatly.You don’t have to be a science major to figure it out.Then run a search engine on moth balls and gasoline.Bingo! Your paying top dollar for smaller moth balls that are easier to get into your tank. Slightly raising your octane,perhaps improving your mileage some. But you can buy a higher octane gas cheaper then adding moth balls.This will be known as the moth ball scam in a couple years from now.
April 14th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
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April 17th, 2006 at 6:10 pm
4-ecorp.com has the Gas Product that will save you money, increase your cars’ efficiency, and give results, not hype.
The pill that many people have tried in their car has given people problems…like Fred who has to spend $1000’s to fix his vehicle. Hmm, sounds awesome, huh? I guess that means you wouldn’t want to eat it either.
However, Ethos is so safe you can taste it. It’s mineral based and non-toxic.
Check out the movies and Join Free right now for a limited time. http://www.4-ecorp.com ID: mkoshko
Trust me, you will see how great the product is and the business opportunity if you wish to make money selling something that helps people.
April 19th, 2006 at 11:33 am
Let’s face it folks. For a product like this to succeed it needs 3 things:
1. The product needs to work, not just by heresay, but by actual data that can be replicated.
2. It needs to be at a price point that will provide a net tangible benefit if people are going to use it on a regular basis.
3. A company, whether it be manufacturing or marketing, that can be held accountable with people from the corp. office that are accessable and available.
From the research that I’ve done (which has been considerable), I found that EthosFR, which will be marketed by the 4-E Corp., accomplishes all of the above.
1. I have not yet tried the product, but their test data looks impressive along with the investigative news reports done by several news organizations. This helps by giving instant crediblity.
2. Even at the retail price level, there should be a 3 or 4 to 1 return. If it costs 10 cents per gallon and I’m saving 50 cents it’s the same as saying for every $1 you give me, I’ll give you $4. Who wouldn’t do that all day long?
3. I have listened to the oppportunity calls by the leaders and corporate officers of 4-E Corp. along with the companies marketing consultants who have no vested interest and they have offered answers to questions posed on the calls as well as offering personal email addresses. I consider this great access to the top.
Only time will tell what happens, but the response has been overwhelming. When I first began investigating EthosFr and 4-E there were only about 3500 people enrolled, as of this writing (about 3 wks later), enrollment has exceeded 43,000.
Once I have some product available I will both sell it and provide some limited free samples so people can prove to themselves the benefit of this product.
With gas at over $4 in some parts of NY state (as of this writing, as seen on the Today show)everyone needs to try and find a way to combat escalating fuel prices. If we can reduce our fuel consumption by 10-20%, prices will come down; simple supply and demand.
This product will take the European Union by storm because they pay anywhere from $7 to $11 per gallon of gas. Let’s hope it never gets that bad in the U.S.
You can view the upgraded website by going to:
http://www.gasclubusa.net/go/gr8gasmileage
or go to the new upgraded corp. website by going to http://www.4-corp.com. (ID: gr8gasmileage for sign-up purposes).
In addition, the support you get from above is amazing, and the binary plan allows for up to 2/3 of someones business to be provided by their up-line. This opportunity looks like it has it all. From the product to the marketing to the support, it’s the right product at the right time.
April 19th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
You know when the price of a gallon of gasoline begins to go up the market place is flooded with products like this. And the funny part of it all is that it is based on pseudoscience.
And what is this about DEW POINT that I read? You know when DEW POINT is reached you begin to get condensation of what ever the liquid in question is. In this case GASOLINE. Basic hydraulics will tell you that anytime a LIQUID is compressed in a confined area it acts as a SOLID… What does this mean? It means that if ANY LIQUID is compressed in a cylinder that it can do tons of damage, such as breaking a piston rod, cracking the block or the heads. Put it this way DEW POINT should never be reached when it comes to a combustion engine.
And as for the properties of GASOLINE itself, it begins making flammable ignitable vapors at around NEGATIVE 50 degrees F. This means that dropping to the point of CONDENSATION for gasoline is virtually impossible unless you are MIDWINTER and well north of the ARTIC CIRCLE.
Now how about this! Where is the INDEPENDANT research that should come along with any claims by any reputable company that is pushing a product such as this? I have not seen any truly INDEPENDANT results that claim that this is some sort of WONDER product that is going to knock the oil industry on it’s backside?
To me this appears to be nothing more than an MLM get rich quick product that is not only preying on the CONSUMER but also on the people who will be PUSHING it too.
As for me I have been an aircraft mechanic for over 20 years in the US Navy. I know about engines and hydraulics and turbine technology. I can tell you that there are NO PRODUCTS that you can add to any liquid that is used in propulsion systems (including piston driven engines) that suddenly work magic without causing DAMAGE to the system somewhere else.
Not only that but my SISTER IN LAW was given a sample of this “GAS PILL” and to me it smells like MOTHBALLS… Remember when people used to put MOTH BALLS in their tanks to get that BOOST OF HORSE POWER only to later find out they have burned holes in the pistons or burned the valves?
BEFARE OF THE CLAIMS OF THIS PRODUCT!!! It could very well cost you a lot more money down the road…
..g..
April 19th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Gary…
I have also heard many bad things about the so called gas pills. EthosFr is not as convenient to use as the pills since it needs to be poured into a gas tank, but it appears that this alleviates some of the problems that the pills have, i.e. the residue that’s left over after the pills disolve.
As a Navy flight mechanic I am very interested in your professional opinion of the EthosFR product. The info. can be viewed at http://www.4-ecorp.com.
Thanks!
Mike
April 21st, 2006 at 10:11 am
I have been using both the Bio Performance Product, as well as another pill known as a mpg-cap put out by Fuel Freedom International for almost 3,000 miles in both a full size Crown Victoria, as well as a smaller Ford Escort. I have kept very precise records, and have only used Chevron gasoline in both vehicles. Both vehicles are driven daily over the same route and have for years, and both vehicles are in excellent mechanical condition, and have passed the emission test required by King County, Washington state without even a hint of a problem. The Crown Vic has established a day in and day out mpg average of 18-19, while the Escort comes in at 25-27 mpg. During the testing of these two products, I have yet to see an increase in mpg for either vehicle, although the Crown Vic on three straight highway trips has gone from it’s normal average of 23-25 mpg to 30 mpg. I’m still not convinced that the increase was due to the product, or the ideal driving conditions I encountered on the trips. For me personally to become excited about these products, I will need to see an increase in this day in and out mpg. I have however noticed something very positive in the Crown Vic, and that is that any sign of “ping” that I used to experience is now all but gone. I used to hate accelerating and hearing my motor ping like a marble being shaken in a can, but as stated, this has all but disappeared since using the FFI mpg-caps. In uncoming months, I will be testing a product known as “Power Plus MPG” as well as the UIbee power pill and will be happy to post my results. I am only experimenting with these products as a customer and am not involved with any of these companies as a distributor. When I started the BP testing, I was sold a bottle of the powder for $25 to try out which was I was told below cost. I do have one bottle left as well as some FFI mpg caps that I will sell to someone else wanting to do a test for this same $25 and I will pay the postage. If anyone is interested in this, or if anyone would like to review my mpg testing records in unaltered form please feel free to write to me at jeffantoncich@comcast.net
April 22nd, 2006 at 10:29 am
It is a new company with a new Liquid product.
You can save 19% on gasoline. Today is the last day to sign up free, go to my web side and sign up today because tomorrow you will have to pay. http://WWW.AZSECRET.COM
April 23rd, 2006 at 10:02 pm
Being very intrigued about the different fuel saving products that have come up on the market over the past few months, I’ve been most anxious to test and try them out for myself. I’ve mosted my results on 3 different blogs/forums and have enjoyed sharing a few emails with some of the other readers. Since my last fill up I’ve noticed something very interesting that I wanted to share. After receiving an email that suggested the FFI mpg-caps needed to be added at 4x the normal dosage for the first 120 gallons to properly “coat” the interior of the combustion chamber I added 3 caps, or 3x the dosage into the tank of my Crown Vic prior to fill up. I also added 5 oz of EthosFR to the crank case, as well as 7 oz to the tank after being assured by the people at EthosFR that it would not cause conflict with any other product I may be using. Within the first 50 miles, the evidence of morning cold start exhaust smoke had all but disappeared. Now, 200 miles later, there is almost no cold start exhaust whatsoever, nor is there any belching of exhaust smoke upon hard acceleration. The engine is smoother at idle as well. Finally, I noticed today that at the half way mark on my fuel gauge I had driven 230 miles, where normally I’m at about 200 when the tank is half full. Not certain if it’s the FFI mpg-caps, or the EthosFR, or a combination of both, but for this tank anyway I am seeing a noticible improvement. Again as always stated, I am not a distributor or associate of any of these companies, but am just testing the different products as a consomer. Please feel free to contact me at jeffantoncich@comcast.net if you have any questions or experiences to share.
Finally, has anybody tried the new “Power Plus mpg” pill that is out that was developed by a Yukos engineer? Please share any results good or bad if you have tried this product.
Thank You,
Jeff Antoncich
April 24th, 2006 at 3:41 am
Here is a real, tested and Patent product with a 10 year history.
http://www.4-ecorp.com/buyfuelcheap
Under the “Movies” link on the website be sure you watch the video clips, “About EthosFR”, “Fox News” and “NBC News”
If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to call, or email me.
Contact information:
Scott Richman (808) 891-2950
buyfuelcheap@gmail.com
April 24th, 2006 at 9:49 am
What you need to do is ask yourself why you cannot buy these products in a store but rather from some sketchy individual or sketchy website then you will realize that large corporations such as walmart or kmart would not put this product on their shelves because tests probably have concluded they do not work as hyped.
April 24th, 2006 at 8:25 pm
The free enrollment has been extended till 4-30-06. You have time to get in and build a great team still. The benefit of getting in this early is that if you upgrade by 4-30-06…you will get a free $49.95 starter kit!! You will have to pay for this after the 30th so hurry!
http://www.4-Ecorp.com/SignUpHere I have alot of resources to fill you in on Ethos FR and the 4-Ecorp Business Opportunity. Simply visit my blog and view the links on the right! Here to help!
April 24th, 2006 at 8:27 pm
I forgot to leave my blog url…it is http://www.4-EcorpTeam.blogspot.com Enjoy and Share!
April 25th, 2006 at 12:25 pm
Hey Anton, I work at a major airline & have several co-workers who try to sell me various gas pills. When questioned, most can’t even say what the pill is supposed to actually do. One individual (call him “Fred”) sells the ‘BipPerformance’ pills and at least sounds like he knows something about the product & let me examine the package information along with a few of the tablets.
My observations were 1) the things smelled like mothballs, 2) there was no plausible explanation given as to how or why they should work, and 3) I could not find any company contact (street address or phone number leading to a real person) to stand behind the product. ‘Fred’ says that his mileage has gone from 22 to 29 mpg in his car, but I have no way to verify it. I’m certain that HE believes in the stuff, but I’d be far more comfortable seeing it hit store shelves with a money-back guarantee.
I can think of many products I’ve bought over the years from MLM’s or infomercials because they presented themselves as reputable companies willing to stand behind their products (the most memorable for me was the ‘banjo minnow’ fishing lures – they worked exactly as the advertising claimed they would). If these gas pills work as they’re supposed to, why don’t we see advertisements on TV to buy directly from the company? Why would any company in its right mind give up potentially enourmous profits so that other people can sell the product for them?
In my experience, the only time this happens is when the company has no confidence in their product and is only trying to make a fast buck at someone else’s expense. Being an open-minded (though skeptical), reasonable individual, I am willing to see if any of these companies will stand behind their product, give a guarantee, etc. THEN I will try it. In the meantime, I can’t afford to have anything go wrong with my vehicle, as my Ford’s warranty would be voided if I introduce third-party products (ie – stuff other than gasoline) into the fuel system.
Please let me know if you can get independent confirmation that any of these products are reputable & reliable – thanks.
ZD
April 25th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
ZD and Antons Readers,
Offering this info to help people decide whether to try these products. (and a vote for Network Marketing)
There is a federal law – Magnussen-Moss Act of 1978- that makes it illegal for a manufacturer to void a warranty by using or installing after market products. The science behind most of these products has been around long enough (40 some years) that it won’t harm your engine or we’d have heard about it by now.
The markup on these products wholesale to retail is about $.33 so I doubt if Wal-mart, K Mmart or the local parts store or the gas station are going to inventory and retail these products. Manufacturers choose Network Marketing to sell their products because word of mouth advertising (and all our opinions, on line included)is more effective in bringing information and products to the masses. Also cost a lot less. Mass marketing typically means massive advertising costs (and often times higher product costs). Network Marketing takes retailers profits and much of the massive advertising cost and returns it to its distributors. The business model that is Network Marketing is fast becoming the preferred model of doing business. Study the “Amazon” click through your web site to Amazon and get paid a fee for the referral as only one example of building a network. Or adwords by “Google.” Your site refers a user(by clicking on a word) to another site and you make money. These are somewhat different examples than the entire Network Marketing business model, but at the end of the day, “It is better to make money with our custoners, than from our customers,” is the business model that open source has brought into the mainstream. Each one of us has the right and now the option to decide if we want to give the profit from our consumerism to the stock holders of a corporation that Mass Markets and TV advertise products or to a network of like minded individuals.
Any product that does not have a 100% satisfaction money back guarantee shouldn’t be purchased and any company that doesn’t offer such a guarantee shouldn’t be taken seriously. Because of the age, condition and efficiency of vehicles, no company will ever give a performance guarantee. We will have to operate with in the satisifaction guarantee if we want to purchase the products.
There are several companies in the market place, all are touting their product to be the best. Beware, there are now or will be unscrupulous operators in this business just as there are in others. We should use consumer sense to separate the hype from a legitimate product and the hypsters from legit companies. What science is involved? There are some 7,000 detergent type fuel and oil conditioners registered with the EPA. Todays fuel is 95% clean. What % increase can be expected within the last 5%? Do any of these products change the conditions where the fuel is burned? What is the origin of the product. How long has the product been in use. Money back guarantee? Can we use a credit card to purchase the product and thus, use the credit card dispute or fraud features. Try the BBB at the companies home office and locally for complaints. Lastly, don’t let other people define your reality. Try some for yourself if you believe it will help your personal economy amd the environment. There are many distributors who will provide free samples.
Thank you,
J Henry
April 27th, 2006 at 6:54 am
BE WARNED PEOPLE, THIS BioPerformance Pill crap is a SCAM!!! I have been researching this company and this product since November. Only the top 2 people KNOW what this product really is. Wanna know??? I have a copy of a patent that was issued to a competing additive company. This competing company, Enviromax, was going to bring a lawsuit for patent infringement against BioPerformance. Now, as recently as this week, BioPerformance says they have proof that their product was already being sold in 1984 under another company name. They defend the fact that THEIR product, being chemically similar, except for the physical state of the product, was the first produced. Well, I’m so glad they decided to jump on the chair so they could hang themselves. The Enviromax product, that BioPerformance claims came AFTER theirs, is based on Naphthalene. For you non-scientific types, let me enlighten you…MOTH BALLS, MOTH FLAKES, or white crystalline powder!!! The only difference is that Enviromax patented a liquid substance, and BioPerformance’s product is in solid form. To date, I have found a number of people that have had fuel system failures while using this product. Furthermore, the Better Business Bureau tried to reach the MAIN OFFICE of this company a number of different times and left messages but the company would NOT return their calls. What kind of a company hides from the BBB??? Maybe one that is out to make 1000 millionaires??? PEOPLE, I’m only gonna say this ONE time. If you’re using this stuff, is it worth the cost of your fuel pump, or injector pump (if diesel), or worst of all, your engine??? Naphthalene is used in some fuel additives, but only in a liquid form. This substance is one of only a handful that naturally sublime, that is, it tends to want to go from solid to gas without a liquid stage. It also tends to NOT want to mix with fuel or fall from suspension when it starts as a solid (either a pill or powder). So, this means that it WILL get caught in the fuel filter (wonder why they’re recommending changing fuel filters), or clog your fuel pump, or clog injectors. They claim that is it cleaning the fuel system. Naphthalene is not a fuel system cleaner but an octane enhancer, so if you’re filter is clogging or if your car happens to surge, chances are good that the product is falling out of suspension and clogging the system. IS THIS KIND OF DAMAGE SOMETHING YOU CAN RISK??? I am a scientist and am currently doing research on a number of fuel additives but this one is a real nightmare. The additives currently on the market, the majority being manufactured by some of the largest fuel additive companies on the planet are based on late 80’s and early 90’s research. The Naphthalene bit was a common trick used in the 1950’s and 60’s to boost octane. It’s nothing new and has been passed over by many an additive company mainly because of the toxicity of the chemical. If you’re a stickler for details, notice that on the BioPerformance website, nowhere, will you find an actual MSDS sheet. They simply tell you that their product is non-toxic, but an actual MSDS must report the toxicity of any substance used in a product. Also, this is a real and sincere warning to any pregnant women that may be using this product, this chemical is EXTREMELY dangerous to a fetus because it can be absorbed through the skin or inhaled and has been found to have adverse affects. Please use this product at your own risk!!! I have the name of an attorney that is looking into a possible lawsuit for those persons that have had damage caused by this product. If there are people seeking help with claims, post here and I will try to post his contact info ASAP. And, to Mr. Mims, I would seriously considered seeking counsel to defend your interests in BioPerformance, Inc. Naphthalene in a solid form “WILL cause damage to an internal combustion engine when used on a continuous basis, if the fuel system doesn’t fail first”. For those managers/area managers/associates/ anyone in the downline, you should seriously consider the consequences of liability if it is found that one of YOUR customers has a failure. You could be liable for damages because you sold the product. Product liability cases have been won against not only the manufacturer or parent company, but against the store or individual who sold the product. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!! – THE SNAKEOIL BUSTER
April 27th, 2006 at 9:10 am
Snake Oil Buster.
That sounds like a solid approach to discovery about the Bio product and company.
This should not stop others from exploring the other companies marketing these products. Some will have good solid science behind them, true customer service and long running track records of effectivness. We have good results and good search on one company and are looking at a second to and test against. Click through my name on top to my non-gas pill web site and email me through the contact icon for more info on our research. Thank you.
J Henry
April 27th, 2006 at 4:39 pm
Is Bio Performance still active in business. I heard there were some problems.
April 27th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
Anton,
I was researching gasoline additives in general when I found your posts. Thank you for starting a lively discussion. It appears that several companies offer “gas pills”. It also appears that several of them have no scientific testing behind them and that a few do. I have found one that I am going to try.
It is offered by a network marketing company at prices about half of the cost of Bioperformance. The product is called Ferox and has been around for about 12 years.
Their primary customer base has been industrial users but they have recently made their product availible to a direct sales company called Team Everest. You can get more information about this company at:
http://annteq.teameverest.net
and you can get more information about Ferox at:
http://www.addferox.com
Most of the companies I have looked at claim to make your fuel burn a little hotter which certainly should give your vehicle more power and thereby better fuel economy.
Ferox takes a different approach. They have a formula that reduces your fuels flashpoint allowing your engine to run cooler and still burn more of the fuel rather than pushing the unburned fuel out of the exhoust. Again, please look at the information at http://www.addferox.com
I have started using these “pills” and have the following results. My car, an older Honda, was getting 23 to 25 MPG. On my first tank with Ferox I got 29.3 MPG and on my second tank with Ferox I got 28.4.
Unless something goes wrong I will be selling Ferox as a distributor with Team Everest. If you are interested please go to:
http://annteq.teameverest.net
to buy product or sign up as a distributor so that you can buy wholesale. Yes I will benefit personally if you do that!! Shouldn’t I ?? After all I have just told you how to save $10 for every $2 you spend and obviously you can earn for yourself by telling others about this product once you are convinced of it’s value.
Have a great day,
Leigh
April 27th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
Does Bio Performance Pill Cut Gas Costs & Save Money?
You should be able to find hundreds of indispensable facts, testimonies and claims both for and against the “bio performance gas pill” all over the internet and local news sources, maybe you even your neighbor!
If there’s at least one fact you didn’t know before I hope you find it here.
Just imagine the difference saving 30% on your fuel costs could make on your budget against the ever rising price of gas.
The only difference between the “bio performance gas pill doubters” and the “bio performance gas pill believers” that I have found, is in the actual trying and testing of the pills.
If you’ll invest a little more time in reading or talking to actual people who have tried the bio performance gas pills, you’ll probably be amazed by the bio performance gas pill results they claim to be getting.
New reports all over America are reporting information such as the following:
“A company in Perrysburg, Ohio, claims it has created a “gas pill” that can save motorists money at the pump”, according to the recent World News reports.
Recent ads in newspapers nationwide are promising a break from the continually rising costs of gas by as much as much 30 percent, with a “bio performance fuel pill” for the gas tank.
I have personally used the gas pill. … On one car I got five more miles per gallon. I also know a dozen other people who have used the pill and are getting better mileage.
Most of the “expert doubters” just simply claim it cant be real… or it would have been around before now.
I believe People are just trying to live the American dream and if… this gas pill really works and saves them money as it has for my family… Then the doubters best beware and test the pills for themselves before vaguely down playing their effectivness or risk losing all credibility and alot of money on fuel.
Imagine the potential growth of the bio performance pill industry and its potential impact on the big oil corporations and even more on American pocketbooks!
I also believe anything that can reduce gas and fuel consumption and help reduce pollution is well worth looking into wholeheartedly!
Knowing enough about the bio performance gas pill to make a solid, informed choice cuts down on the fear factor and hype racing all across the nation and is well worth anyones time.
If you would like to learn more about the bio performance gas pill or even try them please visit http://www.Gas-Mileage-Pills.com
April 28th, 2006 at 2:42 pm
chevy has said no warranty for this bio gas pill
April 28th, 2006 at 2:45 pm
here’s the story on that no warranty from gm……….http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060405/COLUMNISTS09/604050336/1016/news
April 28th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
here’s the story on that from gm……….http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060405/COLUMNISTS09/604050336/1016/news
April 28th, 2006 at 4:13 pm
Geeee! That article is impressive are you the “Snake Oil?” Person pretending to be a concerned informed journalist Who Wrote it? Also I failed to see a real statement pronounced by an authorized Chevy authority.
Additives are added to all gasoline sold in the USA!
If you would like to learn more about the bio performance gas pill or even try them please visit http://www.Gas-Mileage-Pills.com
April 28th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
I tried BioPerformance for 5 tanks on 2 cars each and got Zero improvement. Both cars were tuned up 4 months ago and both are now running rough after the Biop treatments
April 28th, 2006 at 6:28 pm
Brian,
Would you be willing to try a different pill. I have had great results with Ferox and would be happy to sell you small quantitities, even two pills for testing. I will sell you the pills for $1.00 each and pay the postage to you. One pill treats 10 to 15 gallons of gas. I am willing to do this because if you have the same experisnce I have had with them I know you will want more. If you are interested, send an email to my spam catcher account at:
leigh_warhol@hotmail.com
Use Ferox as the subject and I will see the mail.
Anything else might be deleted without being seen. I am saving about $4.00 for each dollar I spend.
April 28th, 2006 at 9:04 pm
You insult the person of this site because they wont use your product. Way to sell em. I have went to site after sight trying to read up on this and all I seem to read are commercials or people insulting those who don’t try it. This isn’t magic a simple scientific explination would be nice. Not brownian motion jargon that they publish onsite. Insulting people and typing commercials isn’t going to sell it very well.
April 29th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
After receiving numerous E-mails asking for an opinion about which company promoting these gas savings products would be best to become involved with, I have decided to post what in my opinion is amongst the top 10 factors to consider.
In my opinion, here are some of the main factors that will need to be realized if one is to be successful with one of these “fuel saving” products.
1. It has to come along at just the right time, which they have..
2. They need to work. A person trying them out needs to see results within a short period of time, be it an increase in mpg, and, or a better performing engine.
3. They need to be “user friendly”. This includes an easy no brainier application method.
4. They must not have a foul odor. Speaks for itself.
5. The “break even” cost must be able to be offset by a realistic (ie: 10%) improvement in mpg. We could all get excited about a 35% savings, but this is not realistic for the average driver.
6. Samples must be affordable to pass out. Very few people will jump right into the product as a business until they prove the merits to theirselves. If samples are easy as well as affordable to pass out, it’s just a matter of passing them out to people you know. If this product works and one can share it with conviction, as well as a personal positive testimony, the battle is half won.
7. The consumer needs to know that the product they are using will not cause harm to their vehicle. The company behind the product needs to stand by the product and guarantee that it’s application will neither damage their vehicle, or void the factory or extended warranty should there be one in place.
8. The product needs to be patented or be patent pending. In my opinion, any reputable company will have a patent, or patent pending behind their product. Again, and this is only my opinion, any company who markets a product where there is no patent involved is doing so because either they know they cannot acquire a patent, or they are using a product or compound that may be violating someone else’s patent.
9. The company needs to have a direct telephone number, and, or E-mail address to the companies Customer Service department. In my testing of these various products, there have been a couple of companies who have been wonderful in a prompt response of my questions and concerns. If a company does not have a CS call in posted phone number or E-mail address, you may be able to find a better opportunity elsewhere.
10. Check the BBB as well as the AG’s office in the state which the company is licensed to do business. They will be glad to provide you with any information that they may have on the company in question.
Any questions or comments, please feel free to write to me at jeffantoncich@comcast.net
May 1st, 2006 at 3:46 am
If this was a ‘proven’ product, then patents and submissions to various fuel companies would result in a massive payday for the inventor. As the chemical industry employs scientists with top level credentials, where is the scientific proof that any of these products actually work? I have researched and found that Bioperformance and Ethos FR are linked. Is Ethos FR the liquid version of the ‘magic pill?’ It seems to be. Is Napthalene a constituent? Changing the flashpoint of any chemical can be very dangerous, in both mechanical and personal risk elements. If you can afford a good vehicle, you can afford to run it as intended. On the other hand, if you drive a clapped out motor, you will probably try anything to save a few cents. What I saw on the Ethos FR site was a journalist from Fox News being conned. The vehicle being tested was cold from startup, hence the high hydrocarbons. After 20 miles, retested and up to normal temperature, hey presto… Not exactly rocket science! Why use a back-street garage for tests and not an Industry controlled environment with proper regulation? I have also been reading a lot of rubbish about people not testing the product for themselves. If someone is daft enough to put things into their system that are not verified and complaints have arisen from those who have tried the product, would you chance the outcome in a decent vehicle? Is the ‘American Dream’ to demolish your neighbours transport? Marketers will say anything and do anything to turn a profit and try to defend their positions. Let’s ask the company to send this stuff to Shell, BP, Amoco, or any other research establishment involved with the Petro-Chemical Industry for evaluation… Or, are they scared of the outcome?
May 1st, 2006 at 5:37 am
EPA EVALUATION OF AFTERMARKET GAS-SAVING PRODUCTS
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) conducts a program to evaluate aftermarket retrofit devices that are intended to improve vehicle fuel economy and/or reduce exhaust emissions. Through engineering, scientific and statistical analysis of data obtained from independent and EPA laboratory testing, the evaluation program objectively determines the effects a device may have on fuel economy and exhaust emissions; when necessary, durability and driveability testing may be evaluated as well.
Purpose of the Program
The purpose of the program is to generate, analyze and disseminate technical data in a public document. Participation in the program is voluntary unless ordered by the EPA Administrator or the Federal Trade Commission. All voluntary testing is paid for by the applicant. The program is restricted to four wheeled highway vehicles weighing six thousand pounds or less.
Fuel additives are included in this program; however, oil additives and lubricants are not. A complete report is issued for any product evaluated by EPA. There is no approval, certification, endorsement, nor registration of any product tested in this program. Furthermore, EPA does not certify, approve, register or endorse any independent laboratory or the results of any independent
laboratory testing. Any claims of EPA certification in this program are false.
Overview of Testing
The EPA device evaluation program employs the same scientific laboratory test methods used to certify vehicles in the United States. The specific tests are the Federal Test Procedure (FTP) and the Highway Fuel Economy Test (HFET). Each of these involve placing the test vehicle on a dynamometer (a laboratory test apparatus which simulates road conditions) and driving through a specified trace simulating city and highway driving in consecutive test sequences. Exhaust gases
are captured, analyzed and used to determine rate of each criteria pollutant emission in grams per mile (gms/mi) and to calculate fuel economy in miles per gallon (mpg).
The controlled laboratory conditions and use of a standard test fuel in this evaluation program minimizes variables one would have to address when using actual outdoor driving on roadways.
Laboratory testing assures that the test results’ comparisons, with and without the device, are not
influenced by outside, uncontrollable factors.
EPA conducts tests on at least two different vehicles which are representative of the fleet. Each vehicle is thoroughly inspected and maintained as it was originally certified by EPA prior to testing. A minimum of three tests using each test vehicle without the device are conducted to establish a base line. The device is then installed on the vehicle as instructed by the manufacturer and the same three test series are conducted once again. When completed, the device is removed and the initial series of tests are conducted once again to determine whether the vehicle has been
affected by using the device.
The data obtained from testing are analyzed for statistically significant differences, either positive
or negative. Emission results for each of the criteria pollutants, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons and oxides of nitrogen are compared for these differences. If use of a device results in a statistically significant increase of any of the criteria pollutants, EPA would consider installation of the device as tampering with the emission control system even though fuel economy may be improved.
Applicants for this voluntary program are invited to be present during installation and testing of the device at EPA’s test laboratory located in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
For further details on the evaluation program, go to:
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/b00003.pdf
Available reports may be viewed from this web site by selecting the link associated with the alphabetical listing of evaluated product names.
May 5th, 2006 at 5:08 pm
After doing my research and smelling a gas pill, I’m quite certain that they are just napthalene. Since napthalene is an octane booster, and I already use the high octane gas, I doubt that the pills will give me any benifit.
I’ve tested my van with the lower and high octane gas and find that on average I get about the same miles per dollar regardless of which fuel I use. The engine does ping less and accelerate better with the good stuff.
Octane
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Low
22.3 mpg
$2.69/gal
$0.1206/mile
$45.73/tank (17 gallons)
High
24.8 mpg (an 11.2% improvement!)
$2.99/gal
$0.1205/mile
$50.83/tank
So I can spend $5 more per tank for good gas or put $2 worth of dogey pills and hope for the same benifit. Keep in mind that the $5 isn’t really an added expense since it allows me to travel farther on a tank. The cost is the same per mile.
I think I’ll continue to pay the $3 “extra” per tank and not have to worry about my fuel filter.
Assume that the pills give me the same 11% improvement that the higher octane gas does. Add the cost of double pills for 150 gallons (Save $1/tank instead of 3). Buy a new fuel filter (Bioperformance recommends it) at $30. The break even point is now at 16 tanks (or 272 gallons or 6745 miles).
If ya’ll are really worried about milage, get a tuneup (you should be doing this already if you want your car to last longer), find out which octane works best in your car, and drive slower. All three of these can easily save you 15-20% on your fuel bill and won’t cost nearly as much in the long run.
May 6th, 2006 at 10:18 am
OK I have just spent 30 hours investegating this and havd used 2 tanks already. I:M STOPPING….If its the real deal, it will be just as real 6 months from now. That should be enough time to see if it causes any damage to anyones cars or if it works…Companys like Amway and Shaklee have survived 50 years and still work as business models. IF this is legit it should be able to stand up for at least 6 months. Come on people use your heads.
May 6th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
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BioPerformance crashes and burns. Proven to be a moth ball.
I feel bad for the people scammed, been there before.
Videos are brutal http://www.wesh.com/painatthepump/9161874/detail.html
Florida station gets college prof and proves BioPerformance is a Moth Ball.
Naphthalene is also a known carcinogen and toxic. Could be fatal if swallowed, but the label says non toxic!
http://ethos.12w.net
May 7th, 2006 at 9:19 pm
After testing the BP Pills, BP Powder, and FFI Mpg-Caps for 1,000 miles each, my records will show that I did not receive one extra mpg per any tank.. in either of our two vehicles. Please note that I am not in any way saying that these products do not work. I am only stating that they have not worked for me personally. My next plan of action will be to go the next 4 tanks in both vehicles without any fuel treatment whatsoever to fully purge the system and re-establish a base line mpg record. I will then be testing the UBiee Power Pill in the Escort, and the FFI mpg-cap once again in the Crown Victoria. What is so interesting is that so many have written singing the praises of how well this type of product would/will work in a Network Marketing/MLM situation, but few have shared their results with me. A couple have even shared that they could care less if the product worked or not, and for them, it was all about the money. I have from the beginning stated that unless it worked for me personally that I was not interested in looking into this as a business. Regretfully, there has been little talk or sharing about the potential monthly savings, or cleaner emissions as a result of using these products. As I talk to people about these products in general, while many really would like to cut back on their monthly fuel consumption it is amazing how many have voiced that at a 10% savings they would not be interested in applying the product prior to each fill up, or that “I only use about 30 gallons per month” and therefore were not interested to save such a minimal amount. The only thing I can say about the use so far of these products is that the “ping” in both vehicles now is almost non existant, and although it still resurfaces from time to time is less than it was, and now smokes less on cold starts as well as hard acceleration. (Both vehicles never did smoke much, but now they do so even less) Also as a side note, since adding 2 tsp. of Ethosfr to the fuel as well as oil of my lawn mower, I now have a grass cutter that runs smoother and more quietly than it ever has, starts easier, and belches less smoke. True Story..
Any comments can be shared here on the site, or as always be writing to me personally at jeffantoncich@comcast.net
May 7th, 2006 at 10:36 pm
Here’s an except from the article done by WESH linked by Brian above:
Definitely Napthalene, and definitely NOT harmless to people or your engine. Stock car racers used to use moth balls in the old days to get a bit of an octane boost. That was before they discovered how bad napthalene was and quit making mothballs out of it.
May 7th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
Jeff Antoncich,
The “ping” is frequently caused by using a gas with too low of an octane rating. Try switching to the next better grade of gas and check your milage.
I’m going to bet that you’ll get just enough improvement to cover the extra cost per gallon. If that still doesn’t help with the ping step up to the premium and check it for a couple tanks.
As I noted above my van does about the same miles per dollar regardless of which gas I use. The best octane for you depends mostly on your engine and partly on your driving style, experiement a little. If you’ve got an average 20 gallon tank, then the most you’ll risk is a few bucks.
May 8th, 2006 at 11:34 pm
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May 10th, 2006 at 4:51 pm
i think cussers are idiots therefore dumb liars
May 11th, 2006 at 12:30 am
I have a 98 Ford Explorer and tried the gas pill to see if it would improve the fuel mileage. After 5 tanks I have seen an improvement of about 12%. I was so impressed that it really worked that I just recently became a distributor and now sell the Bio Performance Gas Pill products proudly!
May 11th, 2006 at 12:36 am
The Gas Pill controversy is certainly heated on this site. And I see new Products introduced here that copy or try to capture some of the success of the Original Bio Performance Gas Pill???
May 11th, 2006 at 9:55 pm
My 2001 Mitsubishi Galant went from 27.5 mpg to 29.5 on the first tank. The second tank went on up to 30.7 mpg, and now I’m on my 3rd tank. The next two fill-ups should keep on increasing my Mpg. Of coarse I was a little skeptic at first, but I tried it and you have to be dumb to think it doesn’t work if you’ve tried it and have saved money like I did ($10 in 2 fillups)
Just check it out!! Stop asking and try it out for yourself so you’ll know the truth. Heck, a bottle of pills of 80 is only $75. Just buy one bottle.
http://www.n8.mybpbiz.com Go to Store
May 12th, 2006 at 8:47 am
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I tried the “Magic Pill” on 2 cars, 5 tanks each per directions. Zero mileage gain, engine running rougher, last tank on my car got worse mileage.
My wife took a whiff and said dont bring those moth balls into this house! BINGO – http://www.wesh.com/painatthepump/9161874/detail.html
Apparently BioP IS NOT the only source of these in the US. http://bioplusfuel.us/
Its apparent that BioP works some times. Not sure thats a great selling point. “Hey try this toxic magic pill! It works some of the time!”
May 13th, 2006 at 9:14 pm
For almost four months now, I’ve been researching and personally testing several of recently spawned “pills” as well as “liquid” products to hit the market in recent times all being marketed to increase mpg while decreasing emissions and making the car in general run better. While I do not put down any of these companies, products, or marketing plans, I can regretfully admit that in over 5,000 miles of testing between our two vehicles, neither the 1992 Crown Victoria with 115,000 miles nor the 1994 Ford Escort with 127,000 miles has yet to see even a 1 mpg increase where it counts the most, that being our daily commute. During this time I have talked with mechanics, friends, and people in general about their vehicles and driving habits as well as the mpg noted from their particular vehicles. In many cases, those that actually knew what their mpg was presented figures that in many situations could no doubt be improved. Many admitted a lacking or slacking when it came to routine maintenance, etc. while others swore their vehicles were cared for better than their children. What conclusion I have pretty much come up with is that few of these cases where a significant mpg increase was noted was it any product “miracle”, but rather the product doing it’s job of cleaning the fuel systems, injectors, and as a result the often needed changing of the fuel filter before the driver suddenly realized “I’m getting better mpg”. Although he or she no doubt IS getting better mpg, it is more than likely a case of the vehicle once again getting closer to the mpg it was intended to get, and nothing more.
However, please realize this is a good thing, and let me explain why. I totally believe that 1 out of 3, or 1 out of 4 vehicles could run better, produce less emissions, and see an increase in mpg if their vehicles had cleaner combustion chambers, injectors, fuel filters, etc. We do not need to see these products as modern marvels to get excited about the possibilities associated with them. I personally believe that most if not all the pills and liquids we’ve talked about can be of great benefit to many if only presented to them to try. They may not possibly be of much benefit or interest to the owner of the 2004 Lexus, but they may be of great benefit to Joe or Jill average that now has a vehicle that is approaching or has exceeded 100,000 miles and may now be at the point of not running as good as it once did. I personally understand this, and if and when I become involved with one of these products I will realize the need to be flexible, and from the outset will realize it will not be for everybody. However, please be assured that there are many who will benefit from its use, and it is these people who you want to look for.
As a final sharing, it is amazing how in my testing I have been “flushed” by the person who had been supplying me with product because I kept asking questions. How often I’ve been told simply that “it works”, and not to try and stir the pot or re-invent the mouse trap. I was trying to do neither, but simply reported to them that in my situation the product was not working. Rather than accept this it has always been a case that I must be doing something wrong, or that I was the only person they heard of who it had not worked for. Ask your questions, and try the product before you become involved with any of these companies. Then if it works for you personally you’ll know you made a good decision to become involved. If the product does not work for you personally, the options are to still get involved (why would you if they don’t work for you) or become involved based on the testimony of others.
As always, please feel free to write to me at jeffantoncich@comcast.net should you have any questions or comments.
Thank you..
Jeff
May 14th, 2006 at 5:03 am
Ok, I decided to do a little research on these ‘pills’ after my mother had mentioned them – being that she is a 54 year old divorcee who knows nothing about the workings of an engine (case in point, she purchased a car 9 months/~9000 miles ago [she puts a lot of miles on the car driving across the state of Utah twice a month] – and has yet to get an oil change); she tends to be a huge risk for the ’sucker-factor’ when it comes to such things. After talking to a few friends who are mechanics, and investing some time in researching reviews/testimonials/complaints online, two things have become obvious:
1) The pills, powder, and any other (non-petroleum based) additives are pure crap! Yes, mothballs will give you a slight boost in acceleration and MPG (I used to use them when I was younger, with a heavier foot and no common since), but the potential damage to the engine isn’t worth it (I hear heroin makes you feel great, but I don’t take the crap – again: risks). If you really want something that wont hurt your car, and will give you a little extra MPG, there is a really good petroleum-based fuel additive called ‘tune-up in a bottle’ by a company called Lucas that you can get at the local AutoZone that is wonderful if used once a month or so.
2) Like many MLM companies, the goal is to sell the company itself, and not the product. There are two co-workers selling the crap; but they have done more to try to get me to sign on to the MLM than to use the pills!
It also became apparent that any reasonable gain in MPG is more than likely due to a combination of the placebo effect (at $80/bottle, the placebo effect does become a factor in this equation), replacing the fuel filter, and also the season. Its spring, the time that not only the air gets warmer, causing the air/intake-temp sensor to use less gas (because warm air is less dense than cold winter air it can’t ignite as much gas as cold air). It is also the time that oxygenated fuel is no longer used (in the areas where it is required in the winter months…. for the same cold-air reasons and the pollution issues that winter driving creates). Switching from oxygenated fuel to the good stuff will cause 5-10% MPG gain by itself, let alone the additional benefit of the warmer air. So that at least satisfies my curiosity as to the question of why there are reports of MPG gain.
But it’s simple, if you want better gas mileage, use decent fuel, the extra buck or two you pay for premium at the pumps is worth it if you really put it to the test. Changing your air filter, and oil, as well as checking your tires and doing all the other routine maintenance will do wonders. Driving conservatively helps too.
Of course, there is always my favorite method… buy a mo-ped. I recently got myself a little weed-whacker on wheels, and I love it. It’s not as gutless as most people believe they are (though free-way driving is out, and I now believe rain to be a scourge of god). The best part is the 80+ MPG I get on the damn thing (I love being able to fill my tank for $2.50). I got a lot of laughter from some of my friends who say that a scooter will have a negative effect on my dating life (for a 24 y/o guy, getting laid is a must); but its only the guys who are laughing: all the girls say it looks cute and fun to ride (a lot like me), and thus my friends are left laughing as I putt off into the sunset at 42MPH with a cutie holding on behind me.
May 15th, 2006 at 3:03 pm
May 15th 2006 2:41pm
As we speaker I am trying to figure out how to fix my 99 chevy after using the Bioperformance pill in my tank. I followed the instructions and used 6 pills instead of 3 for the first tank.
I noticed the sound of my fuel pump increased by at least two times the normal sound. I didn’t worry though because I thought the company was a respectful company that would not sell me something that would damage my truck. On 05-14-06 I had about 1/4 tank left to burn and I was exited about finding out what the gas mileage would be but something happened.
As I accelerated my truck began to slow down instead of pick up speed. I then ask a mechanic to listen to the engine and tell me what it could be. I didn’t tell him what I added to the gas. This is what he told me.
It sounds like your fuel filter is clogged. you need to change the filter and add something to clean your lines out as soon a possible.
I attempted to call the Bioperformance company personally but I could not find a direct number to the company anywhere on their web site. I wished I would have noticed that the first time I searched their site. that is a red flag in my book. If anyone has the number please put it on this site for other and my self to use.
I called tree different distributor’s numbers and as of yet I have not been able to get a direct number to the company. My next call is the BBB.
May 16th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
Ok after hearing about the gas pill I decided to do some research being the natural sceptic that I have always been. So I spent 2.7 million building a modern lab and hiring a group of world reknown scientists.
I then put the pills in my 88 chey truck and the tests began… I got about 3.7 more miles per gallon and have concluded that the pills work!!!
You can save the 2.7 million and just try the pills for yourself. Reguardless of the posts on this site they do work and are not destroying millions of vehicles either or that would be a headline the Big News Companies would jump all over.
May 16th, 2006 at 2:46 pm
I am now trying my second round of MPG-CAPS through FFI (which has a 100% guarantee) and the first tank did get 2mpg better of in-town driving. I also am very skeptical of these type things. My husband just joined the team and I will help him IF they work. I will not back something that doesn’t work. I would never lie, cheat or steal and I don’t plan to start now. My thinking is also that you have to take into consideration how much you pay for the pills versus how much money you’re saving per tank. I will keep you posted as well on my findings.
May 16th, 2006 at 10:00 pm
Thanks Monica for the feedback. I agree with everything you said. If anybody else would share their experiences with the FFI mpg-cap it would be very appreciated. I’ve been told I was the only one in the US who did not see an increase from using the product. If you’d rather not post, you can write to me directly at jeffantoncich@comcast.net
My Sincerest Thanks to all..
Jeff
May 17th, 2006 at 10:00 am
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BioPerformance restested and found to still be a moth ball.
Florida and Kentucky Attorney Gens now to investigate.
http://www.wesh.com/painatthepump/9224995/detail.html
May 17th, 2006 at 12:20 pm
Please forgive the fact that I have done perhaps more than my share of posting as of late, but I’m now seeing myself coming down the home stretch as far as the testing of these products goes, and am to the point after obtaining no success with any of them myself and keeping very thorough records, that if I am to remain interested, there must be some hard third party proof that these products work in the area where most would be interested, that being an improvement in MPG. Does anybody have a link to any third party source that makes a claim or conclusion that any of these products actually do work as claimed? The stories done on Ethos as well as the testing show that by test there was a reduction in emissions, but nothing re: improved economy. I have written “FFI”, “EnviroMax” , “BP” (rep’s only as I could not find a contact email address for the company) and “PowerPlus MPG” regarding third party proof that these products will increase mpg, and not one of them has responded. It is my suggestion that all the bickering and name calling, as well as putting down these various products needs to stop, and we all need to submit contributions that will help each other make an informed decision as to whether or not these products really do work. Thus being stated, if anyone has a link to an article or streamer done by a non-involved third party source that concludes that these products really do work, submit it here for everyone to benefit from. So far, I have yet to find one. Just to share one final comment.. I have a customer where I work in the Spa and Swimming Pool industry who is a retired Oil Company Executive, who performed in the area of research and development. Although this is only one person’s opinion, he has stated beyond any doubt that if these products were proven to work that the rights would IMMEDIATELY be bought out by a big giant oil company, not to be put on a dusty back shelf someplace, but to be blended in with their gasoline additives. As he told me, an oil company would pay literally millions to a “secret” that if blended with their gasoline would give an increase in mpg to their gasoline over the competition. He went on to say that it would not have to be a 10% or 20% improvement to raise brows, and that with advertising being what it is, even a 5% increase would make headlines world wide. He said scientists and engineers are always trying to find a way to make their product more efficient, and although the cleaning properties and reduction in emissions has been noted, that the mpg factor has more to do with engine design of the vehicle, and less with the fuel.
May 17th, 2006 at 12:53 pm
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Texas AG shuts BioP down.
http://www.oag.state.tx.us/oagnews/release.php?id=1569
May 17th, 2006 at 8:49 pm
Well It’s finnaly happened Bio Performance the makers of the “Gas Pill” have been temporarily shut down buy a restraining order.
Yes it is true as quoted from the Bio Performance site MyBpBiz.com
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Dear BioPerformance Family,
Early this morning we became aware of a Temporary Restraining Order that has been filed in Civil Court against OUR Company. I say OUR because from humble beginnings you have helped grow BioPerformance. I have been blessed because of you.
We are right now working with OUR Attorneys to vigourously defend OUR Company. Over the next few days you will be hearing and seeing some negative press. When you are successful in your industry a lot of people take shots at you because they want to obtain the success that the BioPerformance family has created. Just like Amway, Herbalife and Mary Kay we will come out of this challenge stronger than ever!
I want to thank you again for all of your support during this time.
Sincerely,
Lowell Mims”
Looks like they have some serious trouble ahead!
Join the only 10 year established and proven gas saving opportunity at Ethos Fuel Reformulator
May 18th, 2006 at 1:04 am
The third party testing many of you seek is on the web site http://www.legacy.myffi.biz
Jeff, do you really think big business will do right by us?
Lower emissions are worth this effort. Go green.
Thank you.
May 18th, 2006 at 10:15 am
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If you got burned by BioP look into the one product that WAS chosen over all others by the US Military, US secret service, US Dept of Justice, the Chinese Governement, and trucking companies all over the world.
http://ethos.12w.net
Ethos saves you money!
May 18th, 2006 at 7:25 pm
this pill is saving me a gas tank a week. if i had money i would send you a bottle but since im still college student. how about i personally guarantee this will work for you, if not i will give you the $40 bucks back. or i can send you half. whatever you want. a written contract that i would pay you back should put your mind at ease. http://www.nogasguzzler.mybpbiz.com
you probably read how its safe and all so i wont bore you with that information. just e-mail me on this.
May 18th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
This is the real deal.
May 18th, 2006 at 11:50 pm
I was blind sided by a family member to get involved in this business. I was very excited, even went as far as signing up two people I work with, and two more of my famiily members. I placed to prescribed amount of the product in the tank of my one ton diesel vehicle. I was impressed to find a 9% increase during a trip. Now that all the bad press has surfaced, I will no longer endorse this product, or continue to use it. Shame on me for believing in this product. I know better than to fall prey to a get rich quick scheme, or at least I thought I did. Word to te wise run away fast, HA HA HA I guess we don’t have a choice as the state of texas has shut this illegal business down. My biggest regret is the fact I did this to my family and friends. I only pray the can forgive me.
May 19th, 2006 at 8:05 am
I have yet to inform my relatives of my involvement in Ethos, even recieved my first check for $871 and my next due is almost $400. Even though the product has been proven for about 10 years now the new mlm is just starting.
I will probably wait for another month or so to inform them of the opp. I have made placeholders for them a while back in my org, if they decide to go for it.
http://ethos.12w.net
May 19th, 2006 at 8:07 am
Texas warns drivers about gas pill
It’s about time someone took a look at the legalities of selling Napthalene (a known carcinogen and environmental hazard) as a non toxic pill.
May 19th, 2006 at 10:27 am
OK People, let’s quit pimping your own alternative to the gas pill or I’ll start deleting any comment that includes links to other gas products.
Here’s a new post where we can talk about the Attorney General’s move to stop BioPerformance:
Texas attorney general moves to shut down makers of gas pill
May 19th, 2006 at 10:39 am
[...] I’ve posted previously about the Gas Pill here. [...]
May 19th, 2006 at 10:57 am
With the recent events associated with Bio Performance the past couple of days, and also because of the influx of E-mails I’ve received because of the same, I wanted to share with the group as a whole my opinions and personal findings associated with the more well known of these gas savings products. I’m openly stating up front that these feelings are not at all to be considered “Scientific†in nature, but are solely based on my personal findings and opinions. I am not involved with any of these companies in any way, and therefore will neither recommend becoming involved, nor suggest avoiding involvement with the same. I’m only sharing with the group the “pros†as well as “cons†based on my experiences.
: Power Plus MPG
I was given a bottle of these pinkish pills to try out that feature a very familiar “Camphor†smell, although one of the top reps claim is not moth balls. One drawback according to instructions is that these pills should be put into the tank when they have up to 8 hours to totally dissolve and blend with the gas. This alone would make the use of these not very user friendly for those taking a road trip or otherwise desiring the effect to take sooner than later. There is a customer service phone number as well as an E-mail address noted, and I did receive a reply to one of the two mailings I sent. A big red flag goes up however in regards to the smell. Because of the situation with BP, I would encourage PP mpg to put together an official statement ASAP re: the composition of their product which one of their company reps assured me is not MB and is patent pending. The dosage is one pill per 8 gallons, with a double dose for the first two tanks. One must use the product for at least four tanks before the maximum result may be realized.
:Ethosfr
Although there is a wide range of opinion as far as official US Gov’t usage of this product, and various opinions as to it’s effectiveness for increasing MPG, there is little doubt this product will decrease Emissions as well as make the vehicle simply run better.
Those not wanting to become involved with the MLM 4-E and be required to purchase
2 – 32oz bottles of the product per month can go directly to Ethosfr.com where they can obtain a 16 oz bottle of the product without obligation for $19.95 including shipping. It would be very difficult to use 2 – 32 oz bottles per month, and due to its liquid only formulation would be difficult to pass out as samples. The product provides a noticeable improvement as soon as added to the fuel as well as oil, and can also be added to automatic transmissions as well as power steering units according to the rep I spoke with. Sending E-mail to the company generated a quick reply, while those contacted in 4-E Corp had no time or interest in me unless I wanted to join their MLM venture.
:Ferox
Two little tabs in a convenient blister pack designed to burn off the carbon deposits at a cooler temperature within the combustion chamber so all the fuel is consumed. Noted as being a complete fuel system cleaner. Info can be found at addferox.com Great communication with the company. The only drawback to this perhaps as far as considering the product to market is that one can go directly to the company to purchase as well as in some retail outlets. MLM is handled through “Team Everest†which features other products in addition to Ferox.
:UBiee Power Pill
Presently testing in our Escort. The most expensive of all the products tested, at about $40 for 10 tablets. More feedback on this product after a reasonable test period has been given. Once again, a product that has been used outside of the US for the past 10 years with very noteworthy results according to the US distributor. One interested in selling this is not involved in MLM per se, but is required to obtain a license from the company for rights to market the product. Great people, and super communication with the US rep.
The cost factor however may be a deterrent in becoming involved as well as the licensing agreement required.
:Extreme Research/EnviroMax
I have yet to try this product, but soon will. Has been around about 10 years in a liquid only form, and is marketed as being a fuel system cleaner as well as a fuel catalyst. In June the company has said it will be coming out with a more convenient quick dissolving gel cap which will do the same thing as their liquid product while being easier to use and ship as well as pass out as samples.
:Fuel Freedom International
Promotes their mpg-cap as a NASA inspired product designed to coat the combustion chamber which will cause a catalyst effect, the result being a more thorough burn of the fuel as well as the removal of carbon deposits within the combustion chamber. A most impressive site that offers a good explanation as to how the product works in a technical manner, yet understandable by the average consumer. Company headquarters as well as mfg is in Florida, and there is a customer service telephone number as well as E-mail address for communication, although out of three E-mails I sent to the company, only one received a response. One mpg-cap treats up to 20 gallons, and there is no foul smell associated with this product. The company according to their site will soon be releasing the product in a liquid formulation known as “mpg-boostâ€.
This product was tested by ABC’s “Good Morning America†show along with a rep from AAA, in a manner that was anything but accurate. One of the biggest crimes that happens in the US on a daily basis is the in-accurate reporting of the media, which this clearly was a case of. If the product is determined not to work, make the determination after a thorough and accurate period of testing has been performed.
Although I personally did not see an increase in MPG associated with this product, shortly after beginning it’s usage, all sign’s of “ping†disappeared and my car performed in the manner as if it was burning the “Premium†blend.
:Bio Performance
It was this product initially that got me all excited about the possibility of increasing mpg in my car. I’m sorry for all those who became involved and thus were hurt by the ruling on the 17th, but of course, the ruling was not what hurt the people but rather the actions of BP itself.
In conclusion, it has been fun being able to read and share my comments in these blogs/forums, and although I’ve enjoyed the testing and evaluation of these products, and still have some testing to complete but share that for me personally, non have lived up to their projections and promises. While the continued experimenting may provide some noteworthy results of which I’ll be most excited to share, I think that for me personally, continuing the practice of keeping my vehicles in the best possible condition, following proven, sound mpg saving principles, and above all keeping in mind that age old statement “If it’s too good to be true, …â€
As always, I invite anyone to contact me directly should you have any questions at jeffantoncich@comcast.net Unless anything changes where I can report a personally experienced gain in vehicle mpg this will be my last posting, as there is not much else that I can personally share or contribute.
Regards,
Jeff
May 19th, 2006 at 3:13 pm
Don’t be a sucker for this scam. If you must, do some research first.
May 19th, 2006 at 3:22 pm
Works like mothballs in your gas tank (urban myth), only mothballs are much cheaper. How about showing the public some research test results. Can’t uh? Because there has been any done! Urban myth once again. Scam.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:10 pm
What a feeding frenzy these lies about Bioperformance have propagated! Imagine, shutting a company down over a lab test (funding unknown) on one vehicle, when over 50,000 vehicles are getting results that are exciting and REAL, and IGNORED by this unscrupulous judge and attorney general.
In this ‘free’ country, are they ‘protecting’ us a little too much? Or are they just protecting Big Oil as I suspect? If this didn’t work, I don’t think we’d be hearing much about it at all, and most of the naysayers are scoffing much without even having tried the product!
I can HONESTLY say that I used the product and it worked so well that I’m disgusted with our government to be so hypocritical about reducing our fuel consumption. I pray that the TRUTH will come out, and all of us can share in this true blessing.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:51 pm
The truth has come out. 2 PHD chemists stand by the Claim that BioP is 96% Naphthalene. But its marked NON toxic.
This apparently might work for some cars for a short amount of time, But will also fry your engine in the long run.
May 21st, 2006 at 12:55 pm
Found this from a former BioP rep.
“I’m sorry. I am a little set back at something I found out today. I gave the benefit of the doubt that the company was being honest about it did not contain naphalene.
Today I recieved a box of another 13 bottles. This one also came with 13 little notes that said
“Short term exposure, inhalation, ingestion, and dermal contact with BioPerformance product can cause hemolytic anemia, damage to liver, and neurological damage.”
Those are the effects I found that Naphthalene causes. So because this company flat out lied about the ingredients, I have to bow out gracefully of this arguement as this new information makes the discussion a mute point. I do believe that a company falsifying the ingredients of their product is a Federal crime.
all the while, the bottles still say “non toxic”. “
May 22nd, 2006 at 12:06 am
Hello everyone
I would like to start out by saying Bio-Scam did me in as well and to all those out there I am truly sorry your dreams have come to a screeching halt. For those still holding on to a thread of hope that BioPerformance does not contain toxins. Simply visit http://www.BioPerformancePro.com
May 22nd, 2006 at 6:10 pm
First of all I would like to say that I have been invoved in a lot of scams in the MLM arena and I have been in a lot of them where I have made money as well. To mention one would have to be amway and yet I am not in amway now but I would have to say I was sandbaged, but I live 25 miles from headquarters. I can understand the lengths of measure they would go to get business. Yet they are still thriving. Even after lawsuits upon lawsuites. Their products work.
Secondly I am the manager of a ISO 9000 company. In order to recieve that certification your product has to be patened and proven. Which bio performance has done.
Yes they are ISO 9000 certified.
Thirdly In order to sell a product you have to believe in it. So for all of you out there that are pushing your product after trying something else like bio performance scam scam scam. Why would you ever try something else if your product is so great!
Lastly I am not a scientist but I do know that what ever is in this little magic pill works. Lets look back on the big oil companys and how they bought out the elctric cars or what ever invention came along to promote better fuel or no fuel economy. There are lots! BUT WHERE ARE THEY! Bio performance is saving our asses in not saying what is in there product and they are not being bought out by the big fat cat of the oil industry. If they did we would be at a loss which is exactly where the oil cats want us! Stuck in this economy so we get poorer and they get richer and there is nothing that you and I can do about it. They are simply taking a stand. Frankly I admire them. They are doing somthing that you and I can not. We can however fight the fight with them instead of bashing things we know little about.
I know it works! My Aunt came home from TN for my grandfathers funeral May 19th. I don’t know where she scrapped up the gas money to get here but I do know she filled up three times. I gave her the product to use on the way home knowing that it would work cause I use it myself. She only filled up twice and had a quarter of the tank left. It saved her $50.00. Money that she didn’t have to begin with. I can’t tell you about your broken cars or why it smells. I can tell you that it WORKS! I hate the fact that now I have to wait for the product cause of some ass nine who only wants to win a race and was paid off to do it. That is more money for him and more money down the drain for this single mom who works her ass of keeping a roof over her kids head and food on the table.
May 22nd, 2006 at 7:44 pm
As a consultant to the MLM or network marketing industry – I realize this industry has always been attacked by regulators under the guise of consumer protection. But in modern times the regulators are attacking our civil rights as home business operators in their regulation of our industry – and if we, (you and I) do not step up and write congressmen & congresswomen to demand our civil rights be protected, they will continue to steal our rights under the guise of protecting us. In May I read in Network Marketing Business Journal an article written by Jonathan W. Emord, who is in my humble opinion the premier freedom of speech Attorney in America. He said, “So the next time you think the law protects you against your government, think again.” He also says, “We have got to change this awful violation of First Amendment free speech and Fifth Amendment due process of law.” Then he rights, “The FTC is not simply a threat to civil rights in America; it is a daily violator of those rights and it gets away with those violations.” In my humble opinion I extend those strong words to include all regulators who have a hidden agenda.
What is a hidden agenda? It is an agenda that includes the Lobby and contributions of BIG BUSINESS! When we research the contributions and lobby of any regulator we can find what influences his views and actions. When we realize that media attention is what any regulator enjoys for the attention and the ratings and we realize that most companies involved in the business model of MLM or Networking is paying those advertising dollars to the good ole’ Salt of the Earth American people… Home Business Operators… we realize why the media and regulators give us negative attention every time they get a chance. They have called the biggest and best MLM & Networking Companies illegal pyramid schemes… always have and always will… unless we stand up as free citizens and demand our rights as home business operators.
It then comes as no surprise that the company in Dallas, Texas that has found the scientific discovery of this decade is under attack from the Texas Attorney General. Let me ask you as a reader some questions and let you form your own view of this attack.
First many companies out there have used the same business model as their business model or compensation plan, and the premier Attorney in MLM is lead council and has reviewed the compensation plan and has some 17 arguments as to why it is not an illegal pyramid scheme, so then why pick this company as the one to attack?
Second many companies have sold toxic products. Now the secret gas pill in my belief is not toxic and later I will tell why I hold that belief, but for now lets assume it is toxic. If it is toxic, it’s not made to eat, it’s made to put in fuel, which will kill you if you consume it… so what’s the deal? I mean why go in and freeze accounts, seize assets, and then even go as far as to freeze the owners’ personal accounts and assets? I mean some very high dollar pharmaceutical companies sold drugs that were proved to kill hundreds of Americans and they never stopped them from doing business with freezing accounts and seizing assets. Why freeze network marketing companies and not other big businesses? I have an opinion and here it is. We, home business operators don’t lobby and we don’t pay campaign contributions… so we and our companies are treated differently. Does this sound like a civil right violation by the regulators?
Let me add some creditability to my last paragraph… just some food for thought. I did a little Googleing on the Texas Attorney General and I found that Oil and Gas companies contributed money to his campaign coffers; in fact they were #2. Attorneys were #1, so I then looked at the Attorney’s who contributed and found many of them had Oil and Gas companies as clients! Add it all up and I think Oil and Gas had a major influence in the Texas Attorney Generals opinions. And by his freezing all monies a good defense would be hard to mount… that is unless monies were already in escrow with the Attorney’s that would mount the defense. I hope that the Dallas Company took advice from their consultant, and I have all belief they did.
Third… What about all the claims of gas savings and lowered emissions? Well it seems they have not just hundreds of sworn testimonies, but thousands of sworn testimonies! But that ain’t science, excuse the English! When did science become law? Well it seems now according to the law, we no longer have a right to speak freely. That sounds like violation of freedom of speech, right? Wrong… not when what you say is an advertisement. So let me understand this… you can tell your neighbor about a good movie or a great place to eat….but if you can make money on word of mouth advertising you violate the law! The law says we must have science… help me here – why? They say it’s so they can protect the innocent consumer! My opinion is it’s so they can regulate business. If they can regulate you… big business can control you… so that its no longer small home based business and then they can force us out of business by regulation! And why require science? So Big Business can regulate Laboratories and Universities and then Big Business can buy up all the new ideas and then choose which ones they want to affect their commerce. It’s not because science adds to consumer protection. If science added to consumer protection the drug companies that have invented and sold the drugs that kill us would have been stopped!
Science is just a way to regulate! I mean, science says a bumble bee can’t fly, right? Science said we came from monkeys and that the big bang created the universe and each year new science overturns old science… it is ever changing and therefore can’t protect us because we can’t depend on it.
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Additional Commentary on Science
Why does a country want to make science law? For Christians the answer is easy! To make science law makes biblical beliefs unlawful! My Dad said it best in one of his quotes. He said, “Son a wise man is always an educated man, but a well educated man is not always a wise man.” I’m told this next story actually happened. A Professor in debating creation vs. evolution asked the question of students, “Do you believe God created everything?” A student replied quickly with a affirmative, Yes! The Professor then said, “If God created everything, then God created evil and by God’s own principal of our works defining us, then God is evil!” The student was stunned and sat back down. Another student raised their hand and asked the
Professor, “Does darkness exist?” The Professor replied, “Of course darkness exist!” The student then replied, “Sir, with respect you are wrong! Darkness is the absence of light. Newton’s prism can break light into many colors of many wavelengths. However one can not measure the wavelength of darkness, so therefore science has determined that dark is the absence of light. So sir, by similar definition if darkness is the absence of light, then evil is the absence of good. Having said this then evil would define the absence of God’s work, meaning God is good and evil is the absence of good.” The Professor could make no scientific argument against the student’s statement! Now I’m not attacking science. In fact I invite scientific study and its theories. It’s from those theories good ideas are developed! But science is not math. Math is absolute; science is not and never will be!
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I went out of the country to learn of the science of this secret gas pill. I traveled with a man much smarter than I in science, a man with a string of credentials as long as my arm. We traveled to meet the inventor of the secret gas pill! What we found amazed us! We found the invention of the decade! The man was eccentric, but a genius! We asked about this secret gas pill that the lab in Texas and Florida and 4 PhD’s had found was naphthalene or moth balls.
How could 2 labs and 4 PhD’s find this in the product that claims to be non toxic? Here is what I think I heard and I know the man of credential that went with me found it to be the invention of the century. We found science did not accept the fact that 3 live plant enzymes could be made to attach to a dispersant and attack fuel by breaking down the molecule bonds – allowing fuel to burn more completely and with less harmful emissions. Science accepts the fact that naphthalene can be made into napthalate by attaching a metal and it becomes non toxic. Science does not accept that the metal can be replaced by a live enzyme. This man has done just that. He has gotten 3 enzymes to attach to a dispersant. It is pure genius. So how can a product that is mostly enzymes go into 2 labs and come out as toxic naphthalene in their test. He said, “Simple… they destroyed the live enzymes in their test because their test raises the temperature to a level that cooks off and kills the enzymes leaving naphthalene. In other words they changed the product! So I am left to wonder, why would a lab not know their test would do this? I researched the lab in Texas and I found a hidden agenda. The labs client listings include Oil Companies; in fact their primary client base was Oil Companies. So we have the scientific find of the century that the labs and PhD’s (who you would think they would be chasing to find it) are instead trying to cover it up!
Here is my closing opinion and statement! The secret gas pill will not be covered up by big money…the information is out! Thanks to everyone who has helped spread the word…the world now knows! The Dallas Company will fight the good fight, because its owners have the integrity the regulators don’t have!! As for me and my family we will fight the good fight as well! I plan to write congressmen and women. I plan to lobby! I plan to expose the system. After all it is the system that is written about in Revelations…. it is a one world system and a mark of the beast… it is exactly that when regulator’s choose who they will attack and when they disregard civil rights and force science on business and refuse thousands of good witness and have the commercial system feeding their agenda and their pockets. I hope that you all as independent home business operator’s and salt of the earth Americans will rise up to both an Energy Revolution and a American revolution! Stand up fight the good fight! Take pride in knowing you have big money on the run!!!
Now I too, must for my own protection do what I have advised the Dallas Company to do and that is post a disclaimer! Oh Yes, I advised that Dallas Company to tell the world the product didn’t work and they didn’t make any income claims! Why? So they could withstand the very attack that has now come their way! In our society when you must warn people that coffee is hot… even a great product like the secret gas pill must say, “it only works for you if you find it to…we make no claims… try it you’ll like it… we believe it works… we have thousands of good people write and tell us so; but… we make no claims. And the regulators will still try to say you made claims when big money tells them to!
Anyway… this article is an opinion and is a statement of opinion and not science! I feel like a creationist at an evolutionist convention!!!
Sincerely Yours,
Doc Fog
June 1st, 2006 at 2:42 pm
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4934669
June 2nd, 2006 at 2:29 pm
Funny how some of us JUST KNOW a bad thing when it comes along…and others never figure it out. To those who have marketed the TOP SECRET GAS PILL….GET OVER IT!!! Admit that you were duped by two unscrupulous bastards posing as legitimate businessmen. They put extremely toxic products in a container labeled NON-TOXIC and thousands upon thousands of people have handled the product without knowing that handling of this chemical can cause liver damage and nerve damage over time. Wait until the REAL lawsuits start to come…the ones from people who have had overexposure. If you had them inside your house, you may have been overexposed. This chemical can be inhaled with no visible symptoms or signs. The damage from inhalation happens within the organs and within the nervous system. They need to put these two clowns in a cell with a pallet load of their non-toxic pills, opened, and see if they’re toxic…lol. Don’t expose innocent test rats…use REAL ONES like Lowell and Gus!!! And ALL OF THIS under the guise of religion…that’s blasphemy in the worst case. Lowell, get ready, there’s a pitchfork getting sharpened just for your chunky monkey limo driven ass. Oh, and back to my main point. You were duped, fooled, scammed, reamed with no lube, so GET OVER IT!!! Best thing for ALL of you to do now is to go full speed into getting any money back that you’re owed, before it’s too late and the frozen assets become state’s evidence.
June 6th, 2006 at 12:24 am
you crack me up snakeoil_buster!
bio reps, here is an mlm opp to check into:
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June 18th, 2006 at 3:18 pm
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June 24th, 2006 at 6:47 pm
Real testing should include the use of “this questionable product”, “placebos”, and the real thing “moth balls”…
as well as “ethanol” (straight), “ethanol mixes” (usually 15-20%). Why there was even a time where you would mist water into your carburator to loosen carbon deposits and later get better gas mileage.
And who here has heard that water does burn 100% of it… after it is separated into “hydrogen” and “oxygen”.
And, what about electric cars that no one can afford?
Some simple solutions that work: carpool, live closer to work, make lists and buy more (take less trips) to the store, or change the location of where you work, maybe even become your own boss.
There are no quick fixes in this world. MLM is not the problem, it is simply a form of marketing. People cause the problems and sometimes those people are in government.
I have read and taken in “all” of the articles above except those I had to skip because of excessive language (filth).
Also, having really nothing to do with filth (a totally unrelated paragraph)… For a second there I thought I was reading about, “The Emperor’s New Clothes” at one point…
Starts with… Tom Says:
April 6th, 2006 at 5:37 pm
One thing, though, has not been thoroughly covered (other than what I mentioned above)… IF you are convinced and continue to use this additive… consider keeping the product in its close container until you are ready to use it… and when you do use it, consider giving this product the time necessary to totally dissolve in your gas.
When it’s all been said and done, everyone will do what is right-to-them in their own mind, whether it be helping others, or helping themselves (whether other’s are helped, or not).
“If everyone were better employed they would spend less time on the road” — a quote from me. Think about it!
August 23rd, 2006 at 2:29 am
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September 15th, 2006 at 4:04 am
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November 22nd, 2006 at 2:26 pm
I saw this news story about the “Secret Gasoline Pill”. I know of some people who were involved in the distribution of this (and many other MLM type products) and was curious about them. The story mentioned that an “independent chemist” was hired by Bioperformance and gave a very evasive answer about the pills being napthalene. “I can say that no, I cannot say that it’s not that. But I will tell you this: the chances of it being are very remote because of the effects it would have on the human body” I saw the name of the chemist they mentioned, and my jaw dropped. I know for a fact that he is not a chemist at all. He is a very charismatic individual who does very well in MLM type things because he can talk you into anything. That’s pretty sad when the company hires a so-called ” independent chemist” (which insults me because I am a degreed chemist)who is more than likely someone who works for the company anyway (I know his dad was selling the pills, and I think he was too). Sounds fishy to me.
November 24th, 2006 at 11:23 am
Does Bioperformance shutted down because of the naphtaline into their product ?
December 8th, 2006 at 10:47 am
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December 9th, 2006 at 1:16 am
Well I my self am in Network Marketing, been so for 3 years now with a well known company in the health industry, I’m based out of Mt. Washington Ky, Nov 22,2006 I ran into a supporter/Distribtor of a gas pill, Me being an open minded individual I was open to at least trying the product on my 2001 F-250 7.3 liter powerstroke diesel, claims are made to help both gas an diesel. I told the gentlemen to let me have a complimentry sample of the product to let me try it in my truck..if i was satisfied the product worked with out a doubt in my mind, I would purchase a case, and join his program. With a slight hesitation he agreed to let me try the pills. On oct. 14, 2006 @ 3:12pm I actually used my digital camera, an began to video the insertion of the pills into my truck with 1 full tank of diesel an recorded my odometer reading an reset my trip, my truck on 1 full tank gets 387 miles with no pill additive. Video was then taken at every fill up “15″ to be exact, along with putting the pills in an recorded my odometer an trip results. On December 4th, 2006 I was out of pills, an my results are…..
On 6 tanks of diesel my fuel milage per tank with pills averaged between 372.9 to 385.2
On 3 tanks of diesel my fuel milage per tank with pills averaged between 379.2 to 383.0
An on the last 6 tanks my fuel milage was almost the same every time 386.
I have all the recored fill ups for anyone who may want to view them I will be more than glad to email the files to anyone. But in my own some what scientific study if a product was going to work I think 15 tanks of fuel is more than enough time. All I know is they were free pills an at least I have tested and recorded my findings to back up my statement that “These pills did not work (For Me). Also nor did I notice any adverse affect in my truck..but who can really noticed anything different in a noisey diesel..lol..but the pills did kinda smell of moth balls.
December 18th, 2006 at 2:22 am
Increase gas mileage with technology yes, but with magical gas pill how gullible are you?
January 12th, 2007 at 2:25 am
ZhaR Says:
March 13th, 2006 at 8:59 pm
“I have the rights, right now, to report this website to BioPerformance, and have them sue you for FALSE accusations against the forum brining (sic) their rank down.”
ZhaR wrote that to a poster who had the courage to merely challenge his “Green Petrol Pill.â€
Really!!! ZhaR. And I say to you, you are operating a fraud. You people are liars, cheats, crooks, and scum. Your product is a fraud and your method of fogging it is a recognized illegal fraudulent pyramid scheme.
One of the multi-million dollar Ontario Companies that carries the garbage “Petro Pill” is Business in Motion. Now sue me, you crooks.
But before you do, log onto our website at http://www.crimebustersnow.com and see what happened to Business in Motion and the other multi million dollar pyramid fraud, Treasure Traders International who joined forces and are suing me for $10,000,000 and an injunction to shut down the International CrimeBustersNow Organization’s website.
Let this be a lesson to all you cocky crooks, intimidating gangsters, scammers and “snake oil” salemen who sell this pyramid fraud crap aka “Network Marketing†to seniors, the financially unsophisticated, the financially desperate, ethnic communities, the deaf community students in university, college and now even high schools, for god sake. You unconscionable scum!!! And that’s considered “fair comment” where I come from. Ask the Judge!!! You people have anything but “cleans hands” in a court of law, regardless of what brand of superior MLM soap or detergent you scrub with!!!
And let this also be a lesson to all you victims out there, afraid to stand up to this scum. These are “straw men!!! “Magic Tailorsâ€, spinning, weaving and selling you imaginary “gold cloth†all the way to your equally imaginary “FINANCIAL FREEDOM!!! But, remember the child, in the parade, who pointed and insisted …. “DADDY THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES???!!!”
Now sue me you pyramid freaks!!! And do it in Ontario. I recommend it. Ask any billion dollar corporation. When they have a choice of jurisdictions they choose Ontario Canada with reputedly the toughest laws against defamatory libel in North America and probably the world.
I also make it very easy for scum like you. You need not even prove your case for defamation or the irreparable harm or the millions, or billions in damages like I caused the last “corporation” suing me. I actually admit the defamation and the damages in my sworn affidavit, and further, I swear that it was exactly what my defamation WAS INTENDED TO ACHIEVE; financial ruin and to label you characters as crooks, liars, cheats and scum. All you need do is prove to the Judge you’re operating a legal scheme and you win… “hands down†and I am destroyed!!! How easy is that!!! At least it certainly should be, according to your assertions that you operate “perfectly legal enterprises†with real and useful products.â€
Take this posting to your scum pyramid freak lawyers. The corrupt corporations suing me use a large law firm with 24 lawyers. Under the circumstances you may want to seek the services of a larger firm. God I make it so easy for your crooks and money laundering criminals but, alas, none of you can close me down with the power of your millions and billions. Even with the “POWER of TWO!!!” In this case two multi million dollar corporations as in … TREASURE TRADERS INTERNATIONAL and BUSINESS IN MOTION v. DAVID JOHN THORNTON …(impecunious senior citizen.)
BTW an Ontario prosecuting attorney in the small town of Walkerton Ontario also threatened to sue me for a mere million for defamation for calling him a filthy liar among other even worse defamatory things. He sent me an intimidating letter containing about a thousand case laws, and particularly a successful law suit against the Church of Scientology by a prosecuting attorney who won for over mil for far less than what I call this piece of unconscionable scum. But he went no where with it. Truth is a very power defensive weapon!!! And also BTW, I am a grade 10 vocation high school dropout.
Now, I want your stupid “Green Pill” and your pyramid fraud out of Ontario Canada and away from our seniors, students and others. And the world if we can accomplish that. Now, do some research and read our posting actually solicited by the U.S. FTC. It appears on your U.S. Federal Trade Commission website.
My 1st round win was against the scum operating TTI & BIM. The “big shot†in BIM is Dave Stewart the father of RCMP officer Harold Stewart in Hamilton Ontario. But as you know, “The bigger they are the harder they fall.†This win against pyramid fraud freaks only re-enforces the intent of the decision of the N.Y. Supreme Court in People v. Cora Walker 1964 in which this young African American female lawyer, attacked by crooks in the N.Y. building department, proved that “AN INDIVIDUAL CLINGING TO THE LAW CAN WITHSTAND THE RAVAGES OF EVEN CORRUPT BURACRATIC CROOKS AND GANGSTERS, EVEN AGAINST THE STATE ITSELF!!!”
Now there you have it on the proverbial “silver platterâ€. SO, SUE ME!!! YOU PYRAMID SCUM and show the judge your “LITTLE GREEN PETRO PILL.” The “gator” will “eat you for lunch at recess.” Check it out in the 18 page decision of Judge Quigley of the Ontario Superior Court Nov. 30, 2006!!! Which goes to show – “you simply can not fool, nor can you “buy,†all the people all the time!†– david john thornton -2007
David John Thornton aka “alligator dave” “gator dave†“the gator†and President of the International Foundation http://www.crimebustersnow.com email – gatoraid@sympatico.ca 905-963-3389 ..24/7 We will return your calls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide, including Australia. We help as many victims as we can world-wide. In Ontario Canada “We’ll Sue-4-U.â€
P.S. I don’t talk pretty, but damn it our organization and the volunteers behind it get the job done. i.e. Treasure Traders International closed down as a pyramid fraud by the High Court of England December 14, 2005. Check our website.
January 24th, 2007 at 10:30 am
CrimeBustersNow is still “batting 1000″ in identifying fraud. Upcoming frauds ready to collapse if not shut down by authorities; are…
Canadain Diamond Traders “perfectly legal” gemstone scam taking the deaf community all across the U.S. and the world using the same pyramid game board as the “Little Green Petro Pill.” Business In Motion from Canada operated by RCMP officer Harold Steward’s father, Dave Stewart, from Stoney Creek Ont. Can., flogging (green) emeralds and also the “Little Green Petro Pill” crossing the board to scam Michigan victims. Flight “36″ from Markam Ont. Can. from the “ashes” of Departure Central pyramid fraud participated in by police; their meeting actually guarded by fully armed Peel Regional Police. Club Freedom pyramid fraud purportedly from Hong Kong and several more.
And this is the latest on “The Little Green Petrol Pill.”
http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=5979073&nav=0s3d
AG Shuts Down Scheme With Bogus Fuel Pill
Jan 23, 2007 04:50 PM EST
There’s a consumer alert Tuesday from Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott. Abbott’s office is calling for a refund to all people who bought the so-called “top secret gas pill.”
There was a lot of hype about the pills that were claiming to save you gas if you put them in your gas tank.
After the Office of the Attorney General got involved, they discovered these pills were not only ineffective but toxic. They’re made of naphthalene, listed as a toxin on the EPA’s Web site and a chemical used in moth balls.
The Office of the Attorney General says the company, BioPerformance, illegally sold the pills through a Dallas-based pyramid scheme, recruiting unsuspecting buyers to sell the product to people they know.
“The legal action we are announcing today shuts down this illegal operation and provides restitution for the countless consumers who were duped into buying this product,” Abbott said.
The Office of the Attorney General says the company made $28 million off the pills and sold them to hundreds of thousands of people around the country, including an estimated 1,000 in Texas. They’re now required to pay back $7 million in restitution.
If you bought the pills and have proof, contact the Office of the Attorney General.
dave…… http://www.crimebustersnow.com gatoraid@sympatico.ca 905-963-3389 24/7 We return callls toll free in North America and 22 countries world-wide. In Ontario Canada we’ll-sue-4-U.
March 2nd, 2007 at 3:00 pm
FEROX is probably the best. The other ones clogged up my fuel filter. Ferox dissolves in as little as 1 liter of gas and it works like a charm. I have a 1994 LHS and I raised my fuel economy by 6 miles per gallon.
March 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
That is not clear for me completely.Anyway thanks for your thoughts.
Regards.
April 1st, 2007 at 12:01 am
Would really like to talk with you about fuel properties and good combustion principles. look forward to hearing from you. Avery
July 7th, 2007 at 1:05 am
Ferox is the best product out there. The science behind it is next to none. Check it out at http://www.addferox.com.
And yes, I will send you a free bottle of 40 pills if you email me your mailing address.
Hope to hear from you soon.
August 10th, 2007 at 6:26 pm
ZAHR if you really expect anyone to believe that you make 1000 dollars a day selling this crap you have got to be one of the dumbest people on the internet! Nice pyramid scheme! Hey come to my seminar and I can teach you how to make 20,000 dollars a week for no cost! You only have to pay 10,000 dollars to come to my seminar! No really it works. DORK